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White supremacist Kenosha County Sheriff david beth

newtboy says...

Likely not.

Wait.
You're saying there's video of him being chased from his gun toting friends by one guy with a pistol? For blocks? And none of his friends helped him at all? That might change my mind completely....but only if they essentially dragged him away, not if he followed along arguing, and if they physically forced him away from his friends, why didn't his friends try to help?

Again, I'll need some evidence of the pepper spray to believe it, because the videos of him running he wasn't acting like a person who had been pepper sprayed, not that it would excuse killing someone else, and I'm assuming the spray came after the first homicide.

(Edit: if the pepper spraying happened, and happened before he shot, then he has zero excuses for any of them. He couldn't see, so had no idea what was happening around him, who threw what, what was thrown, or who he was shooting. You can't see after being pepper sprayed. That makes every shot fired attempted murder of any random person in the area, not self defense. To be self defense, you must know who and what you're defending yourself from. If he was sprayed, he couldn't possibly know, nor could he properly aim.)

A plastic bag mistaken for a Molotov? Not by any American kid, all boys over 7 know what a Molotov looks like from movies and video games, they don't resemble empty plastic bags.

I think you're being biased. I may be too. I'm not excusing any threatening acts by protesters before he killed one, but do excuse any acts committed trying to apprehend him afterwards. (Edit: anything they did at that point would be real self defense, not just in their own minds.)

I can't find any way to excuse him, from going armed looking for trouble to leaving his group where he felt safe to mistaking a harmless object for a deadly one and killing someone out of fear to running away armed to shooting at his pursuers to not reporting it, every act indicates intentional murder and an attempt to escape. He might have had a reason, he may have even feared for his life, but he had no real reason, put himself in the situation that scared him, and opened fire for no GOOD reason.
Children often do things for bad reasons, that's one reason they shouldn't be let loose with firearms unaccompanied, especially not in high stress events like this.
It's not that he had no reason, it's that his reasoning was flawed on all points. He had no legitimate reason, and no legitimate excuse.

Btw, in case you don't recall, I'm not anti gun at all. I am anti armed groups traveling the country intent on killing unarmed people they disagree with, even if those people are being mean and scary, even if they're stealing. If they're committing arson, well maybe, that can be mass murder.

If you find a still live version of him being chased by armed protesters away from his friends, or threatened, I would be interested in seeing them. I find it impossible to envision. It's not that I'm not open to new info, it's only that I've seen none that excuse his killings.

(Edit: I'm looking at it like this....If a 17 year old kid wants to do extreme mountain climbing with little to no training, gets on the mountain and gets panicked and, thinking it will make him safer to have two ropes disconnects his partner's harness and they die, he had a reason, but not a legitimate reason, and not an excuse. This kid wanted to do extreme policing totally untrained, he panicked, people died because of his panicked actions. It's really that simple to me.)

Mordhaus said:

We aren't going to agree on this.

Like I said, I can't find all the videos because people are taking them down as fast as they go up, but it wasn't just some random person who fired, it was someone in the crowd that came after him for defending the store. These were not peaceful protesters, they were violent and had already attacked him before he fired, first with pepper spray and then charging and throwing an unidentified object at him that many thought was a molotov cocktail until it was later found to be something else.

If you think I am being deluded, so be it. But I did the best I could to show you as much evidence that I could find that he isn't just a gun vigilante that opened fire for no reason. You can't seem to move from your viewpoint that he is. Sorry.

Iceland bringing the hits!

Red Alert's Hell March -World Premiere Live with Orchestra

Fifth Element -Diva Aria

newtboy says...

Impressive, but I'm going to have to call them out for claiming it's impossible for a human, since this is the second live version of it I've seen here.....
*related=https://videosift.com/video/Armenian-girl-sing-Fifth-Element-Opera-live-on-The-Voice

Radioactive - PMJ Jazz/Beatbox/Fallout Imagine Dragons Cover

Zawash says...

Listened to Blake Lewis last week during the PMJ european tour, with an epic live version of this one - the entire concert hall shook during the beat boxing. Awesome stuff. *promote

Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video]

Face Swap with Strangers!

artician says...

I love that app. The only downside is that I usually end up laughing so damn hard with whoever I'm doing it with that it completely screws up the effect every time.

For what it's worth, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, this app is called Face Swap Live, and it's only on iOS right now. There are a hundreds of Face Swap apps on Android and iOS store, but the "Live" version is the only correct one (others don't have the same functionality).

Garfunkel and Oates - "The Loophole"

Zawash says...

Here's the video and another live version:
*related=http://videosift.com/video/The-Loophole-by-Garfunkel-and-Oates
*related=http://videosift.com/video/Garfunkel-And-Oates-The-Loophole

Yall Got A Cigarette?

THE CURE - WHERE THE BIRDS ALWAYS SING

Joanna Newsom - Peach Plum Pear

Deano says...

This is pretty extraordinary *promote

I watched a live version which was outstanding. Odd that I've heard of her but never really knew much about her music. Takes a recommendation from a friend to sort that out.

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oritteropo says...

Hmm. I switched to google's U.S. version, and it still threw up the same ones That's usually a bad sign btw

I did find more though - http://www.universalmusic.fr/m/video-clip/m-le-roi-des-ombres/

Also this one, which is blocked for me - http://www.mtv.tv/music/artists/m/videos/le-roi-des-ombres-409995/

I found just the music, but the puppets are half the fun.

Otherwise there are live versions, but again, no puppets - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3bKuwaxeo

ant said:

All blocked.

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