This sift shouldn't last long with all the lilly-livers among us (you know who you are) but all I gotta say is: seat-belts.

Parents today seem to be using their children's youth as something to cherish and worship because after they leave high school, their lives are effectively over. Even through college you work hard to get an education you most likely won't use. You get a job, you'll have for awhile then you'll be fired. Or worse you won't get hired and you'll live with your parents for a GOOD long time (some till their 30 or something).

Again pointing out how I'm a soccer referee. Youth games and tournaments and high school is the worst. Parents yell and scream like you're taking their children's lives from them. They threaten and argue and yell at coaches and refs about their little Billy or Lilly and how they're perfect and we're awful people for ruining their games. It's becoming unbearable.

concider the lillies!

Thank you very much.

In reply to this comment by eric3579:
I'm crucifying Jesus, banging in the nails,
And I am so happy, because old Jesus failed.
I'm crucifying Jesus, nail him to the cross,
The poor old bastard bleeds to death and I don't give a toss.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm crucifying Jesus, in my piss he bathes.
I think I am a pervert, I think I am depraved
I'm crucifying Jesus, beat him to a pulp,
I stick my organ in his mouth and on it he must gulp.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

You see that crown of thorns upon his head?
Well that was my idea.
I think I might be going to hell,
Oh dear!

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

I'm bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
banging in the nails.

*promote

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Cato Institute:

Established: 1977
Founders: Edward Crane and Charles G. Koch
President: Edward Crane

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cato-institute

Cato Institute was founded by Ed Crane with a $500,000 grant from Charles Koch, a chemical and petroleum heir who was active with Crane in the Libertarian Party.

Cato's corporate sponsors include: Philip Morris, R.J. Reynolds, Bell Atlantic Network Services, BellSouth Corporation, Digital Equipment Corporation, GTE Corporation, Microsoft Corporation, Netscape Communications Corporation, NYNEX Corporation, Sun Microsystems, Viacom International, American Express, Chase Manhattan Bank, Chemical Bank, Citicorp/Citibank, Commonwealth Fund, Prudential Securities and Salomon Brothers. Energy conglomerates include: Chevron Companies, Exxon Company, Shell Oil Company and Tenneco Gas, as well as the American Petroleum Institute, Amoco Foundation and Atlantic Richfield Foundation. Cato's pharmaceutical donors include Eli Lilly & Company, Merck & Company and Pfizer, Inc.

Other non-Bush Administration alumni include former board members: Rupert Murdoch and Theodore J. Forstmann, also founding chairman of Empower America, now FreedomWorks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomWorks

Paging Dr. Lilly.

Here's another masterpiece by Dan Bull http://www.videosift.com/video/Dear-Lilly

Not sure I get where you're coming from.

In reply to this comment by lampishthing:
So would it be fair to summarise your argument as: "There's no room for an anarchic mini-economy inside a capitalist super-economy"?

In reply to this comment by spoco2:
Having just said what I did above... I've always been torn about filesharing in general and people trying to justify doing it.

I do it... but I know it's wrong really.

If I download music or a movie and I enjoy it, how is it right that I not be giving the artist compensation for that work?

Most people who copy stuff will say 'Yeah, but the artist doesn't get much anyway, it's the evil record/movie companies that get most of the money, so fuck them'.

Except that doesn't solve the problem does it? Just because you don't like the corporations, not getting any money to the artist doesn't solve a thing.

Other people say 'music/information should be free man'. Um... ok, but then how do those who make said music or information make a living? Hmmm, if they're not paid for the thing they spend time creating and others do enjoy consuming... how are they supposed to make money?

And if you say 'well, they should tour and make money that way', then get stuffed. I KNOW they CAN make money that way, and do, but there are those who produce music in ways that don't translate to live shows, and then it only works for those that are in the areas where the acts do tour. So you're saying it's ok for those outside those areas to consume the music for free and not give the artist anything just because they live in some area that bands don't tour? Riiight.

Definitely there's arguments for using filesharing better than it is, definitely there are arguments for throwing god awful DRM out the window, definitely there are arguments for looking at different ways of delivering music and movies to people, but just saying to all 'have at it' is not the answer either.

If you think you're entitled to music and movies and books for free (not lent, but to keep), and that the creators of those works deserve no compensation for their work, then you're a fool.

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!

>> ^Asmo:
>> ^spoco2:
If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!

Use P2P to promote your music the Nine Inch Nails way.
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15124
$750,000 from the special edition straight in to their pocket minus the cost of producing the package and shipping.


That really only works if you're already famous (most likely due to a record label's promotions). An unknown band would be lucky to get $75 straight in to their pocket, much less enough to actually live on.

Say what you like, the recording industry does do one thing -really- well...promote their goods. Well, two things, if you count ripping off their artists.

>> ^spoco2:

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!


Use P2P to promote your music the Nine Inch Nails way.

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15124

$750,000 from the special edition straight in to their pocket minus the cost of producing the package and shipping.

There was another story that I can't find a link to of a San Franciscan musician who languished for years ignored by big labels until he put his music up on P2P with his email address. Within days he started receiving requests to play live with offers of appearence fees, travel costs covered etc. Overnight he went from untouchable by labels to making a pretty fine living travelling and making his music. He has never sold a CD or single.

Another good read is:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=rIYYW8s1GvkC&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=musician+using+p2p+to+book+live+shows&source=bl&ots=s2HPom0-Gt&sig=rqi8GxI94pa-
XKL0Uwg-2I0WhMI&hl=en&ei=a-3BSrD6EseBkQXGrIm1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=musician%20using%20p2p%20to%20book%
20live%20shows&f=false

Chapter 13 (sry bout the huge link, google books is a bit meh ; )

Obviously, some people don't have the know how or don't want to spend the time to manage their own affairs to maximise their profits, but it's a very viable business and people are using it.

So would it be fair to summarise your argument as: "There's no room for an anarchic mini-economy inside a capitalist super-economy"?

In reply to this comment by spoco2:
Having just said what I did above... I've always been torn about filesharing in general and people trying to justify doing it.

I do it... but I know it's wrong really.

If I download music or a movie and I enjoy it, how is it right that I not be giving the artist compensation for that work?

Most people who copy stuff will say 'Yeah, but the artist doesn't get much anyway, it's the evil record/movie companies that get most of the money, so fuck them'.

Except that doesn't solve the problem does it? Just because you don't like the corporations, not getting any money to the artist doesn't solve a thing.

Other people say 'music/information should be free man'. Um... ok, but then how do those who make said music or information make a living? Hmmm, if they're not paid for the thing they spend time creating and others do enjoy consuming... how are they supposed to make money?

And if you say 'well, they should tour and make money that way', then get stuffed. I KNOW they CAN make money that way, and do, but there are those who produce music in ways that don't translate to live shows, and then it only works for those that are in the areas where the acts do tour. So you're saying it's ok for those outside those areas to consume the music for free and not give the artist anything just because they live in some area that bands don't tour? Riiight.

Definitely there's arguments for using filesharing better than it is, definitely there are arguments for throwing god awful DRM out the window, definitely there are arguments for looking at different ways of delivering music and movies to people, but just saying to all 'have at it' is not the answer either.

If you think you're entitled to music and movies and books for free (not lent, but to keep), and that the creators of those works deserve no compensation for their work, then you're a fool.

If you can think up a way to make everyone happy in this debate... then you're a genius!

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Well, that was friggen brilliant.

I do enjoy Lilly Allen's stuff, it's catchy and good to listen to indeed. And this... This is a wonderful way to rebut her current cries against file sharing. She seems to be young and quick to become opinionated on something, so maybe she didn't really think it through and maybe things like this might set it straight. Things like people just swearing abuse at her won't, but something this clever, this nicely done... well, how could it not make you think? Or at least smile a bit?

Your video, Dear Lily, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.