I am Anonymous. I am Legion. I do not forgive. I do not forget. Expect sifts.

The transcription is from a different message. Here's the right one:

Greetings, members of NATO. We are Anonymous.

In a recent publication, you have singled out Anonymous as a threat to „government and the people“. You have also alleged that secrecy is a ‘necessary evil’ and that transparency is npt always the right way forward.

Anonymous would like to remind you that the government and the people are, contrary to the supposed foundations of „democracy“, distinct entities with often conflicting goals and desires. It is Anonymous’ position that when there is a conflict of interest between the government and the people, it is the people’s will which must take priority. The only threat transparency poses to government is to threaten government’s ability to act in a manner which the people would disagree with, without having to face democratic consequences and accountability for such behaviour. Your own report cites a perfect example of this, the Anonymous attack on HBGary. Whether HBGary were acting in the cause of security or military gain is irrelevant – their actions were illegal and morally reprehensible. Anonymous does not accept that the government and/or the military has the right to be above the law and to use the phoney cliche of „national security“ to justify illegal and deceptive activities. If the government must break the rules, they must also be willing to accept the democratic consequences of this at the ballot box.We do not accept the current status quo whereby a government can tell one story to the people and another in private. Dishonesty and secrecy totally undermine the concept of self rule. How can the people judge for whom to vote unless they are fully aware of what policies said politicians are actually pursuing?

When a government is elected, it is said to „represent“ the nation it governs. This essentially means that the actions of a government are not the actions of the people in government, but are actions taken on behalf of every citizen in that country. It is unacceptable to have a situation in which the people are, in many cases, totally and utterly unaware of what is being said and done on their behalf – behind closed doors.

Anonymous and WikiLeaks are distinct entities. The actions of Anonymous were not aided or even requested by WikiLeaks. However, Anonymous and WikiLeaks do share one common attribute: They are no threat to any organization – unless that organization is doing something wrong and attempting to get away with it.

We do not wish to threaten anybody’s way of life. We do not wish to dictate anything to anybody. We do not wish to terrorize any nation.

We merely wish to remove power from vested interests and return it to the people – who, in a democracy, it should never have been taken from in the first place.
The government makes the law. This does not give them the right to break it. If the government was doing nothing underhand or illegal, there would be nothing „embarassing“ about Wikileaks revelations, nor would there have been any scandal emanating from HBGary. The resulting scandals were not a result of Anonymous’ or Wikileaks’ revelations, they were the result of the CONTENT of those revelations. And responsibility for that content can be laid solely at the doorstep of policymakers who, like any corrupt entity, naively believed that they were above the law and that they would not be caught.

A lot of government and corporate comment has been dedicated to „how we can avoid a similar leak in the future“. Such advice ranges from better security, to lower levels of clearance, from harsher penalties for whistleblowers, to censorship of the press.

Our message is simple: Do not lie to the people and you won’t have to worry about your lies being exposed. Do not make corrupt deals and you won’t have to worry about your corruption being laid bare. Do not break the rules and you won’t have to worry about getting in trouble for it.

Do not attempt to repair your two faces by concealing one of them. Instead, try having only one face – an honest, open and democratic one.

You know you do not fear us because we are a threat to society. You fear us because we are a threat to the established hierarchy. Anonymous has proven over the last several years that a hierarchy is not necessary in order to achieve great progress – perhaps what you truly fear in us, is the realization of your own irrelevance in an age which has outgrown its reliance on you. Your true terror is not in a collective of activists, but in the fact that you and everything you stand for have, by the changing tides and the advancement of technology, are now surplus to requirements.

Finally, do not make the mistake of challenging Anonymous. Do not make the mistake of believing you can behead a headless snake. If you slice off one head of Hydra, ten more heads will grow in its place. If you cut down one Anon, ten more will join us purely out of anger at your trampling of dissent.

Your only chance of defeating the movement which binds all of us is to accept it. This is no longer your world. It is our world – the people’s world.

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.

As you may have notice, this message is very long. Please take a while and read it a few times, in chunks, before you respond. I ask a lot of questions here so I’d like it you pretended as if you were asking the questions to yourself.

I should have qualified my statement about religions. I meant to clarify that in the Persian and Pre-Rome regions of the world, which were primarily Pagan, a huge majority of the religions didn’t have religious structures that were based around fear, for the most part. Yes, I admit that there was the concept of retribution from the gods but it wasn’t anything to the degree of everlasting punishment. I currently don’t know anything about the religions of the very early Americas (Mayans, etc). It wasn’t until the god concepts became more personalized and more humans that it became more about fear. There is a natural progression in the ideological development in religions that goes from being nothing about humans to being all about humans. Eternal suffering or anything resembling a “hell” is relatively new and came about around the time of monotheistic religions.

Let me ask you a question. Why do you trust your personal revelation?

I ask this because I used to be very “spiritual” and I’ve even had out-of-body experiences, experiences that I can only call past life regressions. I grew up in a practicing Christian family and I have memories of experience that I can only call “personal revelation”. I’ve come to a lot of reasons why I shouldn’t trust those personal revelations; I want to know if you’ve come to understand how the human brain is very easily tricked into irrational behaviors and beliefs (not just religious)

You say that this has been an ongoing revelation since you were 14. If you had not had this history of personal revelation at all and it came to you suddenly today, would you find it believable? I imagine that you’re beliefs have been challenged many times. Are you certain that the strengthening effect of the challenges aren’t just from the boomerang effect, caused by a need to justify something that you feel committed to?

Here is another great question. How much of your belief system is tied to your identity; how much do you identify with it, personally or socially? Meaning, if you came to disbelieve what you now believe, would you know who you are or would you have a sort of identity crisis? If you stopped believing as you do now, do you feel that you would you lose a part of who you are?

You ask a good question in “Maybe it is you who is delusion and I see things as they actually are.” Yes, perhaps I am and perhaps you are and perhaps we both are. So how can we know, how would we find out, what kinds of tests and experiments could we do to illuminate the answer. It isn’t good enough to simply say that we both might be delusional; therefore our views are equally valid. Either one of us is correct and the other is not, or we are both incorrect.
You know, I used to have a dualistic view on the nature of humans. I used to believe in the soul or the spirit as something separate from the body. I used to resonate heavily with the lyrics of Tool and the ideas behind the art of Alex Grey.

I guess my biggest question would stem from this statement that you made
“My faith is that i have a spirit, a soul, a divine spark that is connected to the ALL, the ONE, also known as "the source".”
What makes you think that there is an “ALL”, a “ONE” or “the source” and how do you know that you’re not just fooling yourself? What would it mean if you discovered that it’s probably not true, and that the real explanation for the subjective experiences that you’ve had are far more elegant and interesting than the ideas of spirituality that you currently hold?

To be blunt, I don’t think that you’re thinking this whole notion of an ego through far enough. It sounds like you’re just accepting the ideas as being true without going through the motions of analyzing what the concept implies. The notion of an ego implies several things; one of which is that we as humans are special to the degree that we have egos when, either, other animals don’t, or, other animals are better than us in controlling it. The questions then become, do other animals have egos? If so, how does the ego operate in them? Do other life forms, such as plants or bacteria, also have egos, or does the ego require a certain degree of cognitive function? If the ego does require certain cognitive functions to be noticeable, and since we are extremely closely related to other apes such as chimpanzees, do they also exhibit features of having egos? If they don’t and having an ego is strictly a human feature, what happened during the development of the brain that allowed for the access to what we might call the ego and at this point, do we really believe that the “ego” is actually something that exists outside of the brain? If it doesn’t exist outside of the brain than how can we separate who you perceive as yourself and what you perceive as the “ego”? Are all “ego’s” the same or is it brain dependent with variations depending on brain structure and chemistry? Can you see why I would say that the notion of the ego as something outside of or separate from oneself is inherently egotistical.

The way that you talk about the ego makes it seem mystical and somehow separate from “self”. To me, that sounds like someone trying to escape responsibility. Why not just cut out the middle man and admit that you, not your ego, has the tendency to be possessive, needy, insecure, wishes for self-aggrandizement, etc. The notion that “negative” qualities are part and partial of some sort of external thing that is separate from “you” just seems childish to me, not to mention, completely unsupported by research.

For myself, I suppose that I recoil at the idea of an “ALL”, or “ONE”, or “the source” because it doesn’t really answer any questions. If someone were presenting these ideas to me for the first time, I would immediately start asking questions like “What is it made out of, what kind(s) of particles?” “How does it perpetuate?” “What is the physics of this thing?” “By what mechanism does it connect to everything?” “How does a source not also have its own source?” “What tests and experiments can we do to learn more about this thing?” “What objective information do we have about it?” “Does this thing operate differently between animate and inanimate objects?” “If spirit or soul is inherent in the system, do animals and plants also have a spirit or soul?” “What exactly constitutes as a spirit or soul, what can it be defined by?” “Did “the source” have a beginning or a history?”

I think you understand my point. My problem with subjectively believing something is true is that it’s more susceptible to not going far enough in scrutiny. It is much easier to subjectively believe something that feels good or feels right and not go any further than that. Very few subjective beliefs translate into objective or rational understandings of nature; it’s very easy to get it wrong. Subjective beliefs are as prone to fallibility as humans are to irrational thinking.


In reply to this comment by enoch:
hmmmm..
i disagree with your statement that only the monotheistic religion control by fear.
buddhism (yes..buddhism) shinto,mayan,toltec,arminianism,zoroastriasm..the list is legion and they ALL have punishment/reward doctrine.each at varying degrees but its in there.

i do enjoy hearing an atheists perspective on how my faith translates.
very..analytical of you my friend.
suffice to say my faith is born from personal revelation and has been an ongoing revelation since i was 14.
nothing i have encountered or experienced has taken away from this revelation,in fact it has strengthened it.
could i be delusional?
i guess its possible.
or maybe it is you who are delusional and i see things as they actually are.
not trying to be an ass,just pointing out the subjective nature of this particular polemic.

i guess..in its most simplest of terms.
my faith is that i have a spirit,a soul,a divine spark that is connected to the ALL,the ONE,also known as "the source".
freud believed that the ego WAS who you were.i could not disagree with that more.
the ego is who you THINK you are.predicated and perpetrated by those who are close to you.
we cant help that.it is very human.
so around 12 yrs old we start to have a sense of self.this self understands the world and how he/she interacts with it by rules set by his/her parents.
as we grow older so does the circle of influence i.e:friends,lovers,teachers etc etc.
think about this for a second because i am expressing a very huge idea in a very short amount of time and glossing over all the implications of said idea.

my philosophy..or my faith if you will,views the ego as my "false" self.
the ego wishes only to validate itself (thats why mass marketing is very VERY effective).
the ego wishes to perpetuate its own existence by way of constant feed-back.
the ego gets jealous and possesive.
the ego gets insecure and needy.
the ego has demands...and desires...which seek only for self aggrandizement.
now societal roles consisting of compassion and empathy will,and can,curb the destructive nature of the ego (think your teenage years and just how self centered you were to give you an idea of ego gone wild)

through my faith and discipline i am quite aware of my ego and have suppressed it to the point where it no longer manipulates my thinking nor my emotions.
so i have no urge nor a desire to be perceived as "correct" because to me that is irrelevant.
(though i do prefer to be "corrected" if i misstate something).
i do not experience jealousy,nor envy.
but i do experience pride.
i do not allow anothers limited perception of me based on their own subjective reasoning influence how i feel about who i am.
i am open and honest because my faith is that we are all connected with the divine and to lie,steal or cheat you is to be doing to myself also.
i do not judge anothers faith or lack of it because that is THEIR path and the only time i ever feel the need to intercede is when it flows into my domain and affects me in some way.

even as i write these words,which to me seem pretty articulate and clear,i know that you will understand them based solely on..well..your understanding.
i do not say that as a slight but rather a statement.
trying to convey complex thought patterns by way of text can be so..limiting.

everything i do or say i do so with spirit in mind.
sometimes i fail..sometimes i succeed.
i am human.
with a spirit! ziiiiing!
anyways..
i really do enjoy our conversations.
you are a pleasure my friend.
namaste.
(look that word up btw..its a great word)

hmmmm..
i disagree with your statement that only the monotheistic religion control by fear.
buddhism (yes..buddhism) shinto,mayan,toltec,arminianism,zoroastriasm..the list is legion and they ALL have punishment/reward doctrine.each at varying degrees but its in there.

i do enjoy hearing an atheists perspective on how my faith translates.
very..analytical of you my friend.
suffice to say my faith is born from personal revelation and has been an ongoing revelation since i was 14.
nothing i have encountered or experienced has taken away from this revelation,in fact it has strengthened it.
could i be delusional?
i guess its possible.
or maybe it is you who are delusional and i see things as they actually are.
not trying to be an ass,just pointing out the subjective nature of this particular polemic.

i guess..in its most simplest of terms.
my faith is that i have a spirit,a soul,a divine spark that is connected to the ALL,the ONE,also known as "the source".
freud believed that the ego WAS who you were.i could not disagree with that more.
the ego is who you THINK you are.predicated and perpetrated by those who are close to you.
we cant help that.it is very human.
so around 12 yrs old we start to have a sense of self.this self understands the world and how he/she interacts with it by rules set by his/her parents.
as we grow older so does the circle of influence i.e:friends,lovers,teachers etc etc.
think about this for a second because i am expressing a very huge idea in a very short amount of time and glossing over all the implications of said idea.

my philosophy..or my faith if you will,views the ego as my "false" self.
the ego wishes only to validate itself (thats why mass marketing is very VERY effective).
the ego wishes to perpetuate its own existence by way of constant feed-back.
the ego gets jealous and possesive.
the ego gets insecure and needy.
the ego has demands...and desires...which seek only for self aggrandizement.
now societal roles consisting of compassion and empathy will,and can,curb the destructive nature of the ego (think your teenage years and just how self centered you were to give you an idea of ego gone wild)

through my faith and discipline i am quite aware of my ego and have suppressed it to the point where it no longer manipulates my thinking nor my emotions.
so i have no urge nor a desire to be perceived as "correct" because to me that is irrelevant.
(though i do prefer to be "corrected" if i misstate something).
i do not experience jealousy,nor envy.
but i do experience pride.
i do not allow anothers limited perception of me based on their own subjective reasoning influence how i feel about who i am.
i am open and honest because my faith is that we are all connected with the divine and to lie,steal or cheat you is to be doing to myself also.
i do not judge anothers faith or lack of it because that is THEIR path and the only time i ever feel the need to intercede is when it flows into my domain and affects me in some way.

even as i write these words,which to me seem pretty articulate and clear,i know that you will understand them based solely on..well..your understanding.
i do not say that as a slight but rather a statement.
trying to convey complex thought patterns by way of text can be so..limiting.

everything i do or say i do so with spirit in mind.
sometimes i fail..sometimes i succeed.
i am human.
with a spirit! ziiiiing!
anyways..
i really do enjoy our conversations.
you are a pleasure my friend.
namaste.
(look that word up btw..its a great word)

who is we? i wasnt talking to you..are you legion?

if you already discount the spirit as being non-existent and have never experienced the mental health system then this video will really not hold anything of interest for you.

i find this young mans approach to dealing with mental illness a very humanistic one and while you may feel the numbers may be fudged to make his point...big deal.are you denying the RAMPANT diagnosis in the industrialized world concerning bi-polar?panic-anxiety? this list is becoming LEGION..everyone seems to be all fucked sideways mentally.
and the answer to all this mental health calamity is?........
medicate baby!!
create a society of utter zombies.

and who doesn't take favorable numbers or statistics to make their argument?
or base a philosophy partially on the words and teachings of another?
ken wilbur practically stole from teilhard de chardin and so what of it...not a big deal.

bi-polar is just failed indoctrination manifesting itself as a polarized polemic of what we have been taught how we are SUPPOSED to be and NOT who we actually are.
there are many ways to deal with this.
some self-medicate,others are medicated and then there are those that choose the path this man chose.

i do not agree with everything this young man put forth but i do agree with the humanistic approach:
know what you want.
to do that you have to know who you are and to do THAT you have to have the courage to look at yourself clearly,openly and honestly (much harder than it sounds).
this is when you realize that maybe...just maybe..you were living your life not according to what YOU wanted but rather what OTHERS wanted for you (mom,dad,grandma,girlfriend..you get the idea).
does this solve everything?
of course not but it is a good place to start and notice not one mention of spirit nor any new age jargon.

now self-medication and prescribed medication to me are just band aids without addressing the real problem and BOTH have long lasting side effects that are not of the positive kind.
i dont need to list those do i?

see what im saying here?
i see you tearing apart somebody elses work but did not see you post any solutions.
i mean look at this one line in your post:
"At the beginning, he posses the question, why can't mainstream psychology and psychiatry heal bi-polar disorder. The answer is because we don't understand exactly what it is, just that it tends to happen."
you wrote that and it didnt give you pause for a second?
they over-diagnose something that they dont know what it really is.
how the fuck can you ever be expected to heal something you dont really know anything about but the REAL question is:why the fuck are you even diagnosing people with something you dont really know anything about?

am i the only one seeing insanity all over that?
thats just fucking crazy.

>> ^kceaton1:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^raverman:
If you're going to declare war, you better be sure you can defend as well as attack.
They are legion...
Are you? Can you fight off 10 to 1 highly skilled and motivated individuals?

If the US government is on your side and they think it's important enough to find out where these people are and kill them then yeah. Obviously that's not what happened here...just a dumb CEO making claims he can't back up.
Look I love Anon, and Wikileaks, but if the US wanted to be big bad Empire...they could spill a LOT of blood.

I agree, but I think the U.S. would lose that war eventually unless they can get everyone (they can't) everywhere (they won't, that's war; playing illegal arrest on foreign grounds). The U.S. is not Superman. But, Anonymous has one very deadly weapon, knowledge and a plan of action (as proofed by this guys upheaval). They would lose as a PR game. Sure in the U.S. things might seem semi-peachy, but outside we'd have little footing to stand on. I literally think it would cause an inverted response that you may think they're ready for, but the U.S. has sucked at International PR for a long time. Causing people to "disappear" or arresting them only unleashes the dogs of war.
I frankly don't see the U.S. being able to hold up (certainly, as some countries like China would be happy to have anon). It would be a terrible decision and one they won't make, as we'll be a dictatorship by then. If Colbert is giving them kudos what do you think really happens in that scenario?


Eventually yes...they would have to try and convince the public that these Hackers are a threat to them. They could convince many governments or convince others to go along with them and help them...that's not hard since Wikileaks is challenging almost all power centers. Anonymous may have right and guts on their side but they are still human beings. What happens to human beings in a group when a few of them get taken to Guantanamo Bay or just killed outright.

Sometimes that type of suppression works and sometimes it doesn't. With the backing of other governments the US could shut down the internet as a response. Also China wouldn't be happy with Anon at all unless they had them under their thumb.

What Anon has to do is appeal to the public which I've seen a bit of but would like to see more. Take any south american country...kill a few social activists there using US proxy forces and as long as the media doesn't report it much it's all fine...stays quiet. Anon having roots in the activist community in the US and some sympathy from the broader public and it's a difference story when one of them gets taken out.

Supporting Anon means being realistic as to who they are and what they can do. Not just saying "Yay Anon do it for the Lols!" They need wide support or we have nameless people being thrown in jail or killed somewhere in the world and no one cares because we have no fucking clue who they are or what they represent.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^raverman:
If you're going to declare war, you better be sure you can defend as well as attack.
They are legion...
Are you? Can you fight off 10 to 1 highly skilled and motivated individuals?

If the US government is on your side and they think it's important enough to find out where these people are and kill them then yeah. Obviously that's not what happened here...just a dumb CEO making claims he can't back up.
Look I love Anon, and Wikileaks, but if the US wanted to be big bad Empire...they could spill a LOT of blood.


I agree, but I think the U.S. would lose that war eventually unless they can get everyone (they can't) everywhere (they won't, that's war; playing illegal arrest on foreign grounds). The U.S. is not Superman. But, Anonymous has one very deadly weapon, knowledge and a plan of action (as proofed by this guys upheaval). They would lose as a PR game. Sure in the U.S. things might seem semi-peachy, but outside we'd have little footing to stand on. I literally think it would cause an inverted response that you may think they're ready for, but the U.S. has sucked at International PR for a long time. Causing people to "disappear" or arresting them only unleashes the dogs of war.

I frankly don't see the U.S. being able to hold up (certainly, as some countries like China would be happy to have anon). It would be a terrible decision and one they won't make, as we'll be a dictatorship by then. If Colbert is giving them kudos what do you think really happens in that scenario?

>> ^raverman:

If you're going to declare war, you better be sure you can defend as well as attack.
They are legion...
Are you? Can you fight off 10 to 1 highly skilled and motivated individuals?


If the US government is on your side and they think it's important enough to find out where these people are and kill them then yeah. Obviously that's not what happened here...just a dumb CEO making claims he can't back up.

Look I love Anon, and Wikileaks, but if the US wanted to be big bad Empire...they could spill a LOT of blood.

If you're going to declare war, you better be sure you can defend as well as attack.
They are legion...
Are you? Can you fight off 10 to 1 highly skilled and motivated individuals?

This is an entire legion of awesome.

Newt, you are the biggest, brownest stripe on the nastiest, stankiest pair of tighty-whiteys ever donned in this modern age of man. Nothing you have ever uttered has resonated with me as anything other than simple partisan blustering and blathering of inane dross, meant soley to incite the legions of prosimian nutters that comprise the conservative base. However...

I don't disagree with you on this.

Conversations with Choggie
I promised below that if I got another abusive email from choggie, I would post the entirety of "conversation" we had after his ban, which was around may 5th. Here it is.

He is ignored and blocked from my email from now on.

No drama, no more conversation. It's over. That last repeating part was also in the emails, in case someone wonders.

choggie kendall <redacted> Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:29 AM
To: Nicki Thomas Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
Yer post and jab at Texas....the drones???...Old news-happened 3 years ago-Why not do a follow-up? Where are hey now? You know...real information instead of pussy-whipped tones and jabs at shit you haven't a clue about?.....yer a fucking retard and one of the poster children of he VS's languorous demise.

am time. take a hard look inna mirror at all the things you hate about the world.And, all the things you cherish....not hard to be a human being...instead of a monkey doing.

Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com> Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM
To: choggie kendall <redacted>
Hello Choggie.

I don't care about your opinions. Take them somewhere else.

choggie kendall <redacted> Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:22 AM
To: Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
Y'know dickweed?? Yer a fucking pussy who does not know HOW to have a conversation in real-time with a human being. You simply make comments on the VS and imagine yourself clever based on the little clique's response....You are unwilling, not incapable of understanding. I don't care about you lack of awareness either-I use putzs like yourself as a barometer for the world's social dysfunction-You fucking tit-grabbing, raised on porn little, shit talking faggot.

Good luck as a fucking software putz. You are bound to become fatter, more uncomely, and diseased in the profession of your choosing...that of sitting in a computer chair most of your fucking life.

I don't even know why I bother to try to help socially dysfunctional asshats.....You rate about a fucking 7.6 on the 1-10 scale.....Fucking douchebag-wannabee twit.


Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com> Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:57 AM
To: choggie kendall <redacted>
Hah, you must really miss the sift, so you can get your bile out there. I'm far better at holding a conversation than you are, as clearly evidenced in the diatribe below. YOU need to grow the fuck up. I am not unwilling to "understand" it's just that you have nothing worth understanding.

Now, go away. I don't care about your opinions, I don't care how you measure me, I don't care anymore that you only can get people to react to you, by insulting them. It's sad really, but it's not my problem, it's yours.

Good bye.

choggie kendall <redacted> Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:20 AM
To: Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
"This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.
If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man."

Let me oblige you, drama queen. First, here's your response-

"Hah, you must really miss the sift, so you can get your bile out there. I'm far better at holding a conversation than you are, as clearly evidenced in the diatribe below. YOU need to grow the fuck up. I am not unwilling to "understand" it's just that you have nothing worth understanding.
Now, go away. I don't care about your opinions, I don't care how you measure me, I don't care anymore that you only can get people to react to you, by insulting them. It's sad really, but it's not my problem, it's yours.

Good bye.-Nikki"

Now a point by point-First-Litter my dead account with grafitti-Tattle-tail, tattle tail, hang yer britches onna nail...It's indicative of the immature and vindictive to tell others of the invisible bully -Tell the big people so they will fight your battles for you-You can't seem to handle any confrontation, or observations that don't make you feel warm and fuzzy......Hard to experience acceptance i the real world, butyou internet buddies with nothing to lose, will rush to your defense.

You've never held a conversation with me Hanson, on the contrary...you tend to nut the fuck up when reading concepts foreign to you. A sign of developmental disability. Insulting you? Perception baby-Never desired to do so, every time I chose to enter into conversation with you, you ran the fuck away....(Quite the bith to have yer shit shoved up your ass-Dish out and unable to take? Perhaps.

No, dumb-ass, Unless you call "abuse" the one fucking e-mail....yer a drama sponge, it's understandable...you can't help it would seem. Maturity comes with wisdom. (Grow a pair, nancy)

And here...so you have the original email to post for all to see.....how bout do it inna blog that's not un-editable by me-In fact, I'll make it simple for ya-I shall request that the admins eliminate my entire account, dead as it is, so the very memory of someone you are incapable of responding to, can't upset your perfect, fantasy world.

Choggies one email to gwiz665-
"Y'know dickweed?? Yer a fucking pussy who does not know HOW to have a conversation in real-time with a human being. You simply make comments on the VS and imagine yourself clever based on the little clique's response....You are unwilling, not incapable of understanding. I don't care about you lack of awareness either-I use putzs like yourself as a barometer for the world's social dysfunction-You fucking tit-grabbing, raised on porn little, shit talking faggot.

Good luck as a fucking software putz. You are bound to become fatter, more uncomely, and diseased in the profession of your choosing...that of sitting in a computer chair most of your fucking life.

I don't even know why I bother to try to help socially dysfunctional asshats.....You rate about a fucking 7.6 on the 1-10 scale.....Fucking douchebag-wannabee twit."

Nicki Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com> Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:51 AM
To: choggie kendall <redacted>
I think you're the one living in a fantasy world, where you can say anything you want to anybody without consequence. My message on your profile was not aimed at you, but at the people who worship you as some sort of golden calf and who obviously haven't seen you being a cockmunch, like you are - yet again - in this reply.

The first real conversation we had was when you approached me on google chat about the peggedbea shit, and YOU were the one who ran away from the conversation. If you can't hold a conversation without dicking people around, it's not worth it to have a conversation with you. Ever since then, I've just not wanted to engage.

YOU are the one who keeps the conversation going, You are the one seeking the drama, I don't want it, I never wanted it. Me posting on your banned user's profile was a message to your legions, not you. I don't care about you.

"You are incapable of responding to" Hah, it's pathetic. You haven't made a single cogent argument. You just spout bile and nonsense and it's tiresome.

I don't care whether or not your user is on there anymore. Frankly, it's dead and gone either way.

If I end up posting these mails I will post them all and in their entirety, not just the one you want me to. I don't expect it to come to that though, since I hope our communication ends with this.

Get over yourself and move the hell on.

choggie kendall <redacted> Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:57 PM
To: Nicki Thomas Hansen <gwiz665@gmail.com>
Would you be so kind as to erase your graffiti from my dormant account's profile? Seems a shame that the last comment to date on my hi-jacked former profile for all to see is a snipish, ego-compromised, spoiled brat quip from a petty little douchebag in training-
Oh and, why not make good on your promise to be a good little fascist and post these "abusive" emails you are getting from dickwad for all your little dickless minions of similar simple minds to see?

Of course, you may want to edit it for content that does not offend your delicate fucking sensibilities-
Thank You in advance-


This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.This dickwad is still abusing me in emails, so I hope it's completely permanent. At least I will do my hardest to make it so.

If I receive any more emails from him, I will post the entirety here for all to see, just so you can get a measure of the man.

Don't be a cunt.

>> ^schmawy:

Oh really? You were joking? I find that hard to believe. Choggie's banned any you're dancing on his grave. Well I've had it with the flaccid PC legions of Sift. From now on I'm taking on his task, so just because he's gone don't think no one's going to call you on your infantile crap. As a matter of fact I might come down a hell of a lot harder than he ever did. Same goes for the thin skinned over-reactionary milquetoasts around here. I'm fucking sick of the pogromes of anyone who doesn't prostrate themselves to Olberman, Maddow and TYT. Tolerant, are we?
I'm going to shove tolerance and understanding so far up your ass that it'll tickle your uvula. Is this a vernacular you understand? It's got rectal references for additional elucidation.
And mother raping? You're disgusting.

Bad ass rockers need legions of bouncers to stop people like this. OBE just needs to raise his voice...