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Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN

newtboy says...

How do you solve something that's going apeshit in another country? For starters, in the case of Ukraine and Crimea, we keep our obligations we agreed to and support them with the U.S. military from day one when Russia invaded Crimea, and again in Ukraine proper. Had we done that as we specifically and unambiguously agreed to do when they gave up their nukes in return, the "civil war" (that's clearly a foreign invasion) wouldn't have occurred. That's an Obama administration failure, one that seriously harmed our international standing and trustworthiness, imo. If we had just put 100 Marines on the borders, Russia wouldn't have risked WW3 to invade either country.
My point is human political or boundary issues are nothing compared to intentionally reengineering the makeup of the atmosphere and getting enough cooperation to implement the desired (required) changes.

If she changes policy in the west, that will impact the East....and South. What America does is more often than not mirrored, especially when we're successful.
Her impact is more for the public than governments. Sway enough of the public, get them to vote on your issue, and politics will evolve at light speed.

Her delivery is exactly what's needed. An angry, educated young woman (they called me young man at 14, so don't balk), being unpleasant about having her future stolen makes exponentially more impact to the audience she targets than a thousand dry, factual, statistic rich talks by scientists. (Those are a dime a dozen today) Kids telling their parents that when the shit hits the fan, the kids are tossing them in the swollen river, not supporting them through their old age, is exactly the kick in the face many need. Kids of today will blame adults of today for the future they live in. Adults of today clearly don't consider that enough.

Something is better than nothing, she's demanding something. She's 16, do you expect her to have all the answers? (Some feasible solutions would be nice) She's well ahead of the curve just understanding the severity of the problem. I'm sure if we listened to all her speeches she gives some suggestions of action we could take to move in the right direction, but I doubt any one person has answers that solve every major effect of climate change, much less all the secondary and tertiary effects. I certainly don't expect her, at that age, to do more than demand those in power take it seriously and find solutions....and act. Chastising a major polluter who walked away from the weak, insufficient Paris agreement is a good start if it works, but I agree it's only barely a start.

You should consider it, she got millions to March for her cause worldwide. Even if she is a willing tool for some adults, it's clear more adults are tools for her. Consider, she isn't talking to kids, she's talking to adults, and some at least are listening to her, not her parents.

Personally it disturbs me that emotional delivery like this is required for many to even consider the issue beyond "what does my political party say on this issue, that's what I say too." I wish scientific issues like climate change were immune to politics, propaganda, and emotion, but they aren't. That's why we're hosed imo, humans are too willing to be deceived if the lie is more pleasant than reality, and denying there's a problem or need for change is quite pleasant to lazy Americans, far easier than facing facts and implementing difficult solutions....until it's not at least, by which time it's far too late.

vil said:

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Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN

bcglorf says...

You’re reading it wrong. The IPCC is showing temperature anomaly relative to a specific time frame, you have to compare against the same starting time frame or it is meaningless. Which is by the by an extremely frequently repeated trope used by the hard core denial side.

If you cant find comparable reference frames, use change from a common year. Go look at NOAA’s temps for 2000 and 2019 and take the delta, then compare that delta to the IPCC, you’ll find both fall around the sub 0.5C of change from 2000 to 2020, close ish at least to one another.

Edit:
That may have been a lazy explanation. I went and looked for your 0.83 for 2018, which looks like it is referencing a NOAA release, it lists it's values as calibrated against the 1951-1980 mean.
The IPCC however lists their own numbers as calibrated against the 1986-2005 mean.
Obviously, the mean temp from 1951-1980 is gonna be much lower than the the mean from 1986-2005, so you can't to a direct comparison. If you look at the instrumental portion of the IPCC results you'll see how much it 'under' hits the NOAA data too, just because it's calibrated to a warmer baseline.
Make sense?

newtboy said:

Lol. Their chart predicts below .5C by 2020, we reached .83C last year. Stopping there.

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Cart Narcs Catch A Dumb Hag

Ashenkase says...

I can get behind this, "your a big ol lazy bones"... lol, love it

Sagemind said:

I only needed to make it into a few seconds into this video to realize this video was about a self-righteous Douche who wants to exploit people for non-conformity and vilify them for something so menial.
I can't get behind shaming people for living their lives and doing things someone else don't agree with. She's not doing anything illegal or harming anyone.

(As a student, collecting carts was part of my job at closing at the end of every day. I had a job and enjoyed getting out of the store - I don't endorse this guys intentions)

How Nestle Makes Billions Bottling Free Water

Payback says...

The problem isnt Nestle making money off free water. The problem is lazy shits providing them with a market for it.

Where Are These "Good Cops" I Hear About?

BSR says...

Well, we're out of time here tonight but, don't forget to tune in tomorrow when our guest will be ant. He'll be here to talk about what it's like to dedicate yourself to VideoSift and do the thankless job of combing through each and every video submission and perfecting them by adding the missing channels that so many of us are just too lazy or stupid to do correctly.

Until then this has been another episode of POINT - WHAT'S YOUR POINT with your hosts newtboy and BSR. Goodnight!

*Backstage* Good show newt. I thought for sure you would have said something about the leg cramp.

newtboy said:

You asked how we differed. I answered.

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Mexicans Are Stealing The Wall

How I Proved the Earth is Round(with my Bike and Two Sticks)

Another February - Local H

BSR says...

They mispronounce February.

*moves toothpick to other side of mouth*

"Perhaps this is because placing the r sound in the word makes it slightly more difficult to pronounce, and since laziness tends to get the upper hand when we speak, Febuary has become the common pronunciation. However, despite this, the word is correctly pronounced February."

www.grammarerrors.com/pronunciation/february-pronounced-febuary/

Conan goes to the streets to make people look like IDIOTS

MAGA Catholic Kids Mock Native Veteran's Ceremony

newtboy says...

Bob.
Get seen for cranial rectosis.
3:21 mark

"He served just under 4 years, and was discharged at the exalted rank of private."

You somehow think that means he's not a veteran? Go to any local military base and tell them that, see how it goes. He has been consistent stating he was not in Vietnam or battle, he didn't claim to be a war veteran or Vietnam vet, that was just lazy/poor reporting...but not nearly as poor as this 1791 ranting YouTube tripe that actually corroborated my statement by accident.

Seriously, get seen. There's something amiss if you thought this was somehow proving he's not a vet.

bobknight33 said:

Technically no, Electrician/Refrigeration repair technician.

3:16 mark

Let's Talk About That Gillette Ad...

bcglorf says...

Watched it once after seeing the outrage, yawned and moved on.

Then I saw guys like this adamant that the commercial wasn't characterizing all men, but the bad actors/behaviour, so I re-watched it as my first lazy watch had left me feeling like I could see how people felt it was at least targeting most men.

Here's what I saw second watch:
"It's been going on far too long... Making the same old excuses"
Entire line of men ALL chanting boys will be boys
"But something finally changed...And there will be no going back"

Yeah, I get where people are saying this commercial is painting at least a majority of men as bad actors, and that the good news is that is finally changing. It's even the most straightforward reading of the message to me, and you have to do a bit of mental benefit of the doubt to dismiss the now things are changing as less than an indictment of previous generations of most/all men.

Wild barber!

lucky760 says...

Yes!

And what the hell people.

Okay, using a power tool is the guy being too lazy to use normal clippers.

But WHY SET YOUR DAMNED HEAD ON FIRE you psychopaths?!


Sarzy said:

That made me extremely uncomfortable.



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