oh come on joe - don't be obtuse. Human soul leaving the body? Really? Do you even believe in a human soul? Or more to the point, can you identify that moment on an internet video?

If you're being sarcastic to make the point that such a rule is effectively impossible to implement in any consistent way, then just say so. I think the commentary/documentation requirement does make it clear cut, and everything I've read on VS seems to point to that being the fundamental criterion. Do you have some evidence otherwise? Some discussion that I missed that put forward another criterion?

I think the whole rule ought to be scrapped entirely - just let the votes determine what is or isn't snuff. But that's apparently not how the powers that be want it.

dammit for hijacking this video's thread - create a sift talk post for a generalized discussion

What? are you kidding? you dont need 'funny' music and effects with a video of Charles Manson. Charles Manson alone is plenty enough.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Charles-Mansons-Epic-Answer-24-sec = way better.
This is like that 6 minute long video version of the 'best 9 seconds of the internet' video.

Dorkiness and sexual confusion? What would somebody on an Internet video aggregating site know about...oh.

>> ^peggedbea:
mormon singles activities = awkward meat market charade featuring dorkiness and sexual confusion

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^joedirt:
Big straw man.. "given the alternative"
I could point to 100 internet videos right now showing taser use and in every case it was never the situation where you might draw down on a suspect. It is a convenience tool now used for compliance. Yes, they can be safe and useful and save lives in certain situations, but the majority of the use ends up being lazy or "bad" cops using it for sadism or efficiency of results or just for compliance.

Failing to comply to an officer is a sure fire way to be detained and/or shot with a high voltage electric probe...or a gun. As most any lawyer will tell you, you can avoid the crime but you can't avoid the ride. There is a difference between police brutality and police powers of aresting.
Your argument is actually the straw men in this case as it is the lawful responsibility for a person to abide by the lawful requests of an officer. Any diviation from this results in a use of force by the officer to be determinded by his discresion...and when you are putting yourself at someones discression expect to experince pain and/or humiliation.
I don't know what your would rather when people are being hostile or standoffish with the police. Would you rather them have to call 4 other officers with feather dusters and tickle a person into submision? If so, none of us would get any protection because the police officers hands would be so tied because of their inability to reasonably enforce the laws.
I understand the problems you have though, I too also worry about police abusing their powers. That is the subject of a different conversation though. In short, if you act in unlawful defiance of an officer expect a hard body check to the floor at minimum and a cold electric probe in your flesh at a maximum.


this

I can't wait for the internet videos to start making a real difference. All we ever hear is "Officer Whats-his-nuts was put on paid administrative leave pending an investigation" and then we never hear about it again. I want to hear about real organizational shake-ups! No more condoning violence just because it's a "non-lethal" tazer, no more falsifying evidence, no more cops demanding cameras to be turned off.

We're shining a light on these cockroaches, but I don't see them scattering.

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?

>> ^Fusionaut:
I have a feeling this will be used in court one day. But it IS awesome


>> ^buzz:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/internet-video-nightmare/2008/12/08/1228584709781.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
T
he above link is to a story where an Australian man was arrested on using the internet to promote child abuse
.
.
because he posted the video to a website.
Man oh man!!!


It seems that I am clairvoyant...

Anyone buying lottery tickets?