I watched this fucking disaster twice. How can you fucktards not upvote the terribleness in this video? Frankly, I think it's ingeniously horrible. If I'm missing something, let me die in pure ignorant bliss but fucks like this fag should be promoted as the true video artists of our time. That way, the bastards we actually enjoy can get some goddamn humility.

naw, some clever dick will come up with an ingenious way to bump the end of the world by one generation so we won't be around anymore
our kids will.. but who gives a shit about their kids anyway.. i mean, really..
that's all it comes down to.
all parents care about are how their kids fill up their fantasy of how a life should be lived and they don't give a shit what their kids do once they're dead and not there to witness it.
if people cared, they wouldn't be shitting on the future as they currently are.

At least we know their achilles heel: velcro.

Please save me human! Save me from this ingenious trapping substance!

>> ^Throbbin:
Just thought I would also draw attention to my comment in the other thread...
"I'd prefer to leave it how it is. BUT, if it does have to be changed, you could require a quality invocation to be seconded by another (suitably qualified) member (like the dupe function), at the cost of a power point each. That spreads the burden around, and is more likely to ensure only real quality items are qualitied."
I thought it was rather ingenious.


Great idea-sounds good here as well! A bit of team work always makes for better fellowship-

Just thought I would also draw attention to my comment in the other thread...

"I'd prefer to leave it how it is. BUT, if it does have to be changed, you could require a quality invocation to be seconded by another (suitably qualified) member (like the dupe function), at the cost of a power point each. That spreads the burden around, and is more likely to ensure only real quality items are qualitied."

I thought it was rather ingenious.

i want nerd guerilla warfare on EVERYTHING.
anonymous as a social justice movement would be ingenious and fucking powerful.
i want them to clog the fax lines of financial institutions with pictures of dollar bills and poverty.
i want the IMF inundated with fax pictures of mohangany trees, and bananas, and third world civil wars.
go go go go go go go go go

and anti gay marriage politicians to get faxed gay porn.

Religions and religious texts came about because there was a problem that needed solving at the time, and someone just happened to solve it by mysticism and indoctrination. The results ultimately helped communities to cooperate some more and kept people in line, although in some cases, they were cooperating and following orders to find more ingenious ways to kill other groups of people. Sadly the sacking of civilizations ultimately led to the loss of big chunks of knowledge that might have put us where we are today somewhat sooner. I'd like to think that we're getting closer to global peace than we were 2000 years ago. Religion is still a separator of people and that is why it must go the way of the dinosaurs (whether you're an evolutionist or creationist, they're still buried under tonnes of rock). We've grown up under the father figures of various gods and we are ready to take the first steps as an adult global civilization. With science and education, freedom of speech and the likes of the internet, our global knowledge pool and global group have ample replacement for the likes of religion in order to solve modern day global issues that the bible etc doesn't touch on.

>> ^jwray:
Letting the retarded criminals live and executing the smart ones sounds like a very bad idea in the long run.


How else would you cut down on the criminal mastermind population? The clever ones are more likely to either find a legal technicality out of prison, or hatch a really ingenious escape plan. Then you're stuck with the problem of potentially running into a really clever mass murderer on the streets, one who can not only outwit the law, but find very clever ways to kill you that you have no hope of thinking your way out of. The retarded mass murderers are harmless by comparison.

Ah - I see you also have chosen a religion. Have you paid for your indulgence carbon credits yet? Seriously though - no the 'science' isn't in because the leaks prove the 'science' is faulty, meddled bunk.

No it isnt. just because a few loud, ignorant fox talking heads have come up with the word "climategate" does not remove the robust underpinning of the science: The evidence is overwhelming, and there really is no scientific controversy, only a political one, human presence is having an effect on the climate, of this there is no more doubt. This is not "religion", it is science, I dont know how to spell it out more clearly. Reasonable people do not "believe" in climate change, we accept it as evidence-based fact. I also find it a curious way to argue a case by sarcastically hinting that I might find carbon tax to be expensive, what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Do you mean to suggest that all scientists are cooking a devilish plan to make me pay more taxes?

Tell me, while these ingenious conspiring scientists are cooking the books, faking reports and grinning their evil faces, when to they ever find the time to whip out their hairdryers and melt glaciers? How are they making hurricanes stronger?, how did they open the north-west passage?

The record for longest human lifespan is currently held by Jeanne Calment, who lived to 122. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

She did that with 20th century technology, and she wasn't even an intellectual or highly motivated.

We've already entered the age of organ regeneration... growing new organs from our own cell... and it's already saving lives. I think it will pass regulatory hurdles and come in to widespread usage within 10 or 20 years.

Genome sequencing is down from $250k a year ago to $5k now (http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/006527.html). In 10 or 20 years most people will have their genomes sequenced, and medicine will no longer be a crap shoot.

Experts say that most drugs, whatever the disease, work for only about half the people who take them. Not only is much of the nation’s approximately $300 billion annual drug spending wasted, but countless patients are being exposed unnecessarily to side effects.

[Conventional] studies tend to be “one size fits all,” with the winning treatment recommended for everybody. Personalized medicine would go beyond that by determining which drug is best for which patient, rather than continuing to treat everyone the same in hopes of benefiting the fortunate few. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/business/30gene.html?ex=1388379600&en=a3e1de30bab852a6&ei=5124&partner=facebook&exprod=facebook

If you die in 2050, that sounds like a waste, because I think it's highly unlikely I won't live into the 2100s. Imagine where technology will be in 2100.

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Re: 'world of criminals'

I think the idea of humans as possessing 'personhood' is a simplistic model. The deeper you dig in the cognitive sciences and the human sciences in general, the more clear it becomes that human thought outputs and behavioral outputs are just the result of deterministic mechanisms. Looking at humans as 'persons' isn't looking at a deep enough level of detail... and it makes us take things 'personally' -- as if the decision agents (in a game theory sense) we're interacting with are 'persons.' Humans want to be good... they just have simplistic, unmotivated brains.

Change the inputs, and the outputs will change. Embryo selection is borderline-practical today, and it's increasingly being used. My prediction is by 2030 5% of births (in wealthy countries) will be using it (for cosmetic and temperament improvements - e.g. reduced addictive behavior, greater motivation, less 'social learners' and more 'infovores'), and by 2060 60% of births will be using it. When those generations reach 25 years old, they'll be starting to influence society, which will be 2055 and 2085, respectively.

However, by 2055, I think we'll have neurotechnology that achieves most of the large goals of neurogenetic change: next-generation neuropharmaceuticals, neuroimplants, and changes to the organization of our neural tissue using stem cells.

I believe the future is humanistic and humanitarian. And the world is incompetent, waiting for us to influence the arc of history.

IMHO, anyway.

What do you think?


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In reply to this comment by gorillaman:
I think we're going to miss SENS by at least a generation. The way I treat my body I'm expecting to die around 40.

Doesn't it gnaw at you that, living in a world mostly populated by criminals, any good you do will primarily benefit them?

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Gorillaman, we're young enough that we have a decent chance of living to see the fulfillment of SENS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey).

Doesn't that make you want to do something with your life that's ingenious and constructive, helping out the common good, instead of just pursuing vendettas?

I think we're going to miss SENS by at least a generation. The way I treat my body I'm expecting to die around 40.

Doesn't it gnaw at you that, living in a world mostly populated by criminals, any good you do will primarily benefit them?

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Gorillaman, we're young enough that we have a decent chance of living to see the fulfillment of SENS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey).

Doesn't that make you want to do something with your life that's ingenious and constructive, helping out the common good, instead of just pursuing vendettas?

Gorillaman, we're young enough that we have a decent chance of living to see the fulfillment of SENS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey).

Doesn't that make you want to do something with your life that's ingenious and constructive, helping out the common good, instead of just pursuing vendettas?

In reply to this comment by gorillaman:
Fucking apology from the fucking prime minister. Unbelievable.

It was only in '67 homosexuality was somewhat decriminalised in the UK. Not actually that long ago. You know what that means? It's not too late for justice. Many of the advocates and enforcers of the corrupt law, corrupt government, corrupt society of the period are still breathing; yet to evade their deserved punishment by dying of natural causes.

Drag them out of their retirement homes, torture them to death and parade their corpses through the streets. I am not kidding.

Very interesting designs. There was some initial concerns about the tires breaking down and causing seepage into the ground; however, they were able to prove that the breakdown of the tires is primarily caused by sunlight. Since these tires are not exposed to sunlight, this eliminated that concern. There is also the benefit that these "pounded earth" houses are extremely hardy against adverse weather.

Here is their main website (looks like they've revamped it quite a bit since I was there last):
Earthship main website

Two videos with more explanation on the construction:
Earthship construction part 1
Earthship construction part 2

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If you are interesting in intelligent house design, there are many websites out there. If you are looking for a more conventional house structure that is still decently self-sufficent, you should take a peek at the site below. It uses multiple method to control the internal climate. Very interesting read that hopefully many help some people include some items that increases the efficiency of their homes.
David Allan's Solar Home

Part of the appeal of the earthship is that you can grow a portion of your own food using the resources. Another alternative would be using a dome greenhouse. There are many different designs/companies that use dome greenhouses with a large pool for thermal mass and either a solar/electrical driven fan or expanding wax tubes (to push open vents) for ventilation when it gets too hot. I'm completely unaffiliated, but here is one website of a company that makes domes:
Growing Spaces' dome greenhouses

Personally?... Well, I would like to build something more along the line of David Allan's home, but include some of the ingenious water use/control of the earthships.

>> ^blankfist:
I take offense to him saying "what [Americans] always do is just steal the best things..." I think he's confusing corporatists with American ingenuity like, oh I don't know, the automobile...

Not to detract from American ingenuity, but the Germans invented the automobile.

What Americans did was mass-produce them and make 'em affordable. It's actually a great example of what Americans are usually ingenious about.

Oh, and you're the one confusing what Moore said with some sort of knock on America's ability to innovate. Often times businesses imitate and incorporate the successful innovations of their competitors. If anything I think Moore is giving America praise for a trait it plainly does not have when it comes to politics.

France has the #1 healthcare system in the world, according to the WHO, but what does a significant minority of Americans fear? A healthcare system like the one in France.

Learning from the successes of others is a fundamental human strategy -- we should do a bit more of it where it really matters.

Fuck this asshole. He's got an agenda and he's pushing it however he sees fit regardless of things called facts.

That's not what the head of CIGNA's PR department says.

>> ^grinter:
ok, so what keeps a monorail on track?

Gyro monorail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_monorail
Also very ingenious.