In Hungary, gas pumps You!

ok, so Hungary now has the world's most expensive gas. So expensive, you're charged without even consuming it.

Hungary, not Russia. You could've gone with East Europe.

*nochannel *wtf *comedy *fail hungary, not russia

>> ^maestro156:

>> ^packo:
take a look on index mundi
% of people below poverty line in hungary is 13.9%
for the US, its 15.1%

I looked on Index Mundi but I didn't see what they used for a definition of "Poverty Line". What I did see was that their reporting of Per Capita GDP (Purchasing Power Parity) was US 48,000 and Hungary 19,600. I suspect that the poor Hungarian would be ecstatic to be a poor American. And the poor American would probably be appalled at the living condition of their "equal" in Hungary.
To the original poster, I'm no Republican, but I fully support his freedom to buy this advertisement and speak his mind to whoever wishes to listen. I also support your right to speak _against_ his points. But I cannot support your desire to _silence_ him.


You seem to misunderstand me on a VERY specific issue. I DO NOT care if this man screams at the top of his lungs what he believes, that is his RIGHT to do so IN the U.S. of A.. However, the part I DO have a problem with is a little law that was passed by our buffoons in charge that deals with a little issue you may have heard of before called, "Citizens United". A group of individuals that used this law of unlimited money in campaign measures, that over time lead to this very ad and the fact that it could be produced, bought, and then given to outlets to run at a price by a single person, a BILLIONAIRE with a CAUSE.

His cause I CAN ASSURE you was not to let you know the perils and evils that socialism can lead things too. Hell, putting more money in history classes can teach us that socialism is at best a double-edged sword. Much like our "democracy". If he cared THAT much he would focus on education and children as they are our future and ultimately our next policy holders, decision makers, and our curse unless we find a "true" way out of all of these issues.


I will allow you to figure out what his endgame or true motive may be, in fact it MAY BE two things, but it certainly isn't what he so vividly talks of in his ad. Fear.

>> ^packo:

take a look on index mundi
% of people below poverty line in hungary is 13.9%
for the US, its 15.1%


I looked on Index Mundi but I didn't see what they used for a definition of "Poverty Line". What I did see was that their reporting of Per Capita GDP (Purchasing Power Parity) was US 48,000 and Hungary 19,600. I suspect that the poor Hungarian would be ecstatic to be a poor American. And the poor American would probably be appalled at the living condition of their "equal" in Hungary.

To the original poster, I'm no Republican, but I fully support his freedom to buy this advertisement and speak his mind to whoever wishes to listen. I also support your right to speak _against_ his points. But I cannot support your desire to _silence_ him.

take a look on index mundi

% of people below poverty line in hungary is 13.9%
for the US, its 15.1%

it's also considered to be one of the most income EQUAL nations in the world
AUDI and MERCEDES both have facilities there
and if you look at how their currency fluctuates... it's actually extremely stable

I'll tell you what the LEFT see's that this guy, the Republicans, and the poster above me don't:

THE FACTS

Besides being a "job creator" and pitching this inflammatory Ad that is fully in support of the Republican platform by way of fear inducement... It is scary to see the final repercussions from Citizen's United and see that a private billionaire like Mr. Peterffy can just put up a random add, FULL of distortion and outright lies

So what exactly is he lying about? Hungary's poverty? That socialism destroys incentive?

I decided that it was worth our time to have this ad here, due to its historical ramifications and to really underline the lengths people in power or with wealth will go to, to get their way. It also deserves to get the backlash it needs to have thrown at it due to its utter ridiculous nature. This ad plays off of your emotional appeal, to your natural instinct to care.

Yeah, that's what political ads do, appeal to emotions. What do you think Dopey Change was running on? Facts? Logic?

But, the real truth is that some of it is probably created in a Hollywood studio, BUT if he IS showing true strife in Hungary he most likely has the markings of a person with almost NO empathy. Last, as must ALWAYS be pointed out, to basically call out these idiots, we are not ANYWHERE close to a SOCIALIST government! GET OVER IT! Your talking point sucks and it's nearly 20 years old now.

We're very close to a socialist government. The bastards have their tentacles in every process, business and action, unwelcome or not. New taxes continue to appear, money we don't have continues to burn. The Supreme Court has incorrectly ruled that individuals can be forced to buy a product, something that would have been scoffed at even 20 years ago. Responsibility has been supplanted by government warnings and programs. You can't even cut down a tree on your own land without approval from some dick in an office thousands of miles away. But we're not screwed like Europe...yet.

It's funny in the end that he is so remarkably scared of paying MORE taxes, yet he spends HUGE amounts of money to try and stop it with ads... It's all so ironic somehow. I just knew this guy was an 1% personality, when he endorses the ad at the end with his own name. Do everyone a favor if you have a Google account setup and go to the video, login, and vote it down.

I'm confident Mr. Peterrfy isn't afraid of paying more taxes, but he sees SOMETHING the American left does not.

What could it be?

>> ^persephone:

This is an excellent series. I saw it recently, after watching a similar doco last year,'On the Trail of Genghis Khan', by an Australian who rode from Mongolia to Hungary on a horse. Both fascinating, yet very different. The motorbike trek took 3 months, the horse trek took three years. Ewan and his friend Charlie had huge amounts of expensive equipment and a support crew. Tim had three horses, a tent, a dog and a satelite phone. Each had their own unique set of problems. All of them were pushed to new limits. Excellent stuff.


What I like about the trail of Genghis Khan comparison is the fact that Horses and Motorcycles are very much the same. Motorcycle is just a modern version of a horse, with some of the same trappings such as leather and a cowboy loner outsider sort of image attached to it.

I'm Black and I don't have much interest in where my ancestors came from. My brother & sisters don't either (& I mean my actual brother & sisters). I can't think of any of my black friends who have any interest in a pilgrimage to their homeland. Some of them pop back to see the relatives sometimes, but that's about it.

However if I go to any big city over here in Europe it's brimming with, mainly American, people who've come to the old country to trace their roots. And I've met people of many shades and nationalities who've arrived here to do that. It's not the bastion of any one race. Don't take a common human impulse you've observed in people who by coincidence are black and tag it to them alone to form part of a 'but black people is weird innit' narrative. This kind of thing makes me sleepy.


>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

In reply to this comment by wraith:
A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.

They have relatives living there.

I understand that.

African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?

I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.

And I don't care.

I don't get it.


I live in England and we are full of Americans & others who's ancestors came from here returning to trace their roots. Same in Scotland, Ireland, Wales and everywhere. It's not a black phenomenon. I as an official negro have no desire to return to my 'homeland'. But it's a pretty common unremarkable and universal human desire.

As a white guy from europe, I feel the same way about my heritage: ie who cares?



BUT. There's some social context here, and context is everything. I could go on about it, but I think you know what the salient part is (slavery); you can research it and think about it yourself. I don't know what it's like to be an african american, but I imagine it plays a huge factor in identity and when shit gets heavy, one starts thinking about that stuff. His return to Africa isn't surprising at all, even if I don't fully understand it the way he does.





>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

Hey dude, ask the Jews the same question. You're concerned about tourism... but don't mind Zionism and false birthrights?

You answered your own, really -- first and second generation after being stolen from a country... or, you know, being a human being... might lead you to having a "curiosity" which may be "satisfied" by "exploring" said curiousity.

Or you may be an un-curious "supposer", a theorist who asks "why" without attempting to really understand when the information is right under their own nose... you are employing the tactic of insinuating by asking... you seem to have an issue with "blacks".

maybe try googling your questions?

as a "first worlder" you have that luxury to erase your ignorance at the swipe of some keys. too hard? maybe you should ask why people ask stupid questions in 2012.

that said, lol @ whoever upvoted your comment. you should be shamed into answering your own questions, not supported for your racism.. oh, i mean, "false presumptions". Since you are an admitted "regular" white guy.. i assume you think with your dick and not your brain... im white but i can use google and open my mind to "possibilities"... so i dont think you're all that regular, unless by regular you mean ignorant.


>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

>> ^direpickle:

>> ^wraith:
A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

Your ancestors (probably) weren't torn away from their homeland unwillingly, and you did not grow up somewhere just a hairsbreadth away from deep, institutional racism. Have you ever spent a lot of time somewhere where you were a minority? It's not always terribly comfortable.
That said, someone already mentioned that Chappelle didn't go there for that reason. I don't know if anyone actually does. Is it a thing? But I can absolutely see why someone growing up in America might feel that they need to try to find some connection to where their ancestors came from.
Just guessing. Mostly from Irish/German stock, here. But many generations removed.


You mean like the Puritans, the Protestants, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese, or any of the other religious or ethnic groups that were forced out of their countries?

It's partly because they can go to Africa and be treated as a "normal" human being as many out there aren't aware of our celebrities. And technically we all have roots in Africa >> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.