Why Dave Chappelle Quit Illuminati

Very honest Dave Chapelle interview.
eric3579says...

The whole Inside the Actors Studio interview.


siftbotsays...

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wraithsays...

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.

They have relatives living there.

I understand that.

African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?

I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.

And I don't care.

I don't get it.

siftbotsays...

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brunopuntzjonessays...

>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.


He went to South Africa. IIRC it wasn't anything to do with him being black or having African ancestry. It was just some place where he wasn't famous and could get away from a public that knew him. I figure Europe would have been similar to the US in that regard. Why not go to the east? Maybe not enough English speakers, who knows.

direpicklesays...

>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.


Your ancestors (probably) weren't torn away from their homeland unwillingly, and you did not grow up somewhere just a hairsbreadth away from deep, institutional racism. Have you ever spent a lot of time somewhere where you were a minority? It's not always terribly comfortable.

That said, someone already mentioned that Chappelle didn't go there for that reason. I don't know if anyone actually does. Is it a thing? But I can absolutely see why someone growing up in America might feel that they need to try to find some connection to where their ancestors came from.

Just guessing. Mostly from Irish/German stock, here. But many generations removed.

rottenseedsays...

It's partly because they can go to Africa and be treated as a "normal" human being as many out there aren't aware of our celebrities. And technically we all have roots in Africa >> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

Chaucersays...

>> ^direpickle:

>> ^wraith:
A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

Your ancestors (probably) weren't torn away from their homeland unwillingly, and you did not grow up somewhere just a hairsbreadth away from deep, institutional racism. Have you ever spent a lot of time somewhere where you were a minority? It's not always terribly comfortable.
That said, someone already mentioned that Chappelle didn't go there for that reason. I don't know if anyone actually does. Is it a thing? But I can absolutely see why someone growing up in America might feel that they need to try to find some connection to where their ancestors came from.
Just guessing. Mostly from Irish/German stock, here. But many generations removed.


You mean like the Puritans, the Protestants, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese, or any of the other religious or ethnic groups that were forced out of their countries?

wraithsays...

As I said, my point did not neccessarily have a direct link to the point being made in this video.
I did not get that Mr. Chapelle went to SA to get away from stardom, I falsely presumed that he was one of the African Americans I read about from time to time that go "back" to Africa to "find their roots".

What I meant be my comment was that I personally don't feel any roots to ancestors that lived three hundred years ago and don't get how one could.

Furthermore, I often read about African Americans going back to "Africa". Keep in mind that Africa is the world's second largest continent and encompases 57 nations and hundreds of ethnicities, religions and cultures.

An African American who goes to Africa to escape being a minority will (in my humble opinion) only find to be a member of a new minority, as a tourist.

vaire2ubesays...

Hey dude, ask the Jews the same question. You're concerned about tourism... but don't mind Zionism and false birthrights?

You answered your own, really -- first and second generation after being stolen from a country... or, you know, being a human being... might lead you to having a "curiosity" which may be "satisfied" by "exploring" said curiousity.

Or you may be an un-curious "supposer", a theorist who asks "why" without attempting to really understand when the information is right under their own nose... you are employing the tactic of insinuating by asking... you seem to have an issue with "blacks".

maybe try googling your questions?

as a "first worlder" you have that luxury to erase your ignorance at the swipe of some keys. too hard? maybe you should ask why people ask stupid questions in 2012.

that said, lol @ whoever upvoted your comment. you should be shamed into answering your own questions, not supported for your racism.. oh, i mean, "false presumptions". Since you are an admitted "regular" white guy.. i assume you think with your dick and not your brain... im white but i can use google and open my mind to "possibilities"... so i dont think you're all that regular, unless by regular you mean ignorant.


>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

bigbikemansays...

As a white guy from europe, I feel the same way about my heritage: ie who cares?



BUT. There's some social context here, and context is everything. I could go on about it, but I think you know what the salient part is (slavery); you can research it and think about it yourself. I don't know what it's like to be an african american, but I imagine it plays a huge factor in identity and when shit gets heavy, one starts thinking about that stuff. His return to Africa isn't surprising at all, even if I don't fully understand it the way he does.





>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

ChaosEnginesays...

>> ^vaire2ube:

Hey dude, ask the Jews the same question. You're concerned about tourism... but don't mind Zionism and false birthrights?
You answered your own, really -- first and second generation after being stolen from a country... or, you know, being a human being... might lead you to having a "curiosity" which may be "satisfied" by "exploring" said curiousity.
Or you may be an un-curious "supposer", a theorist who asks "why" without attempting to really understand when the information is right under their own nose... you are employing the tactic of insinuating by asking... you seem to have an issue with "blacks".
maybe try googling your questions?
as a "first worlder" you have that luxury to erase your ignorance at the swipe of some keys. too hard? maybe you should ask why people ask stupid questions in 2012.
that said, lol @ whoever upvoted your comment. you should be shamed into answering your own questions, not supported for your racism.. oh, i mean, "false presumptions". Since you are an admitted "regular" white guy.. i assume you think with your dick and not your brain... im white but i can use google and open my mind to "possibilities"... so i dont think you're all that regular, unless by regular you mean ignorant.


I think you might want to go back and edit that post. It's really hard to read, your point is unclear and I think you meant to accuse @Sagemind (who said he was a regular white guy) instead of @wraith (who never said anything like that).

As to wriaths point, I kind of agree. You cannot lump all of Africa as one culture or ethnicity. That would be the equivalent of a caucasian american going to "europe" to find their roots.

ex-jedisays...

I'm Black and I don't have much interest in where my ancestors came from. My brother & sisters don't either (& I mean my actual brother & sisters). I can't think of any of my black friends who have any interest in a pilgrimage to their homeland. Some of them pop back to see the relatives sometimes, but that's about it.

However if I go to any big city over here in Europe it's brimming with, mainly American, people who've come to the old country to trace their roots. And I've met people of many shades and nationalities who've arrived here to do that. It's not the bastion of any one race. Don't take a common human impulse you've observed in people who by coincidence are black and tag it to them alone to form part of a 'but black people is weird innit' narrative. This kind of thing makes me sleepy.


>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

wraithsays...

Hm. Ok. I should have guessed that because I singled out African Americans and my assumption that some, being unable to know where in Africa their ancestors were abducted from, tend to see a continent of 57 Nations and dozens of ethnicities and religions as "their homeland", I would be called a racist.

That's the internet for you. :-)

Have you ever even considered that I was trying to comment upon a feature of some people that I did not understand because I don't share it? I do not feel any connection to any place my ancestors might have lived in the same way that I am not proud of any of their achievements and not ashamed by any of their failings. They are not me.

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