>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.


Your ancestors (probably) weren't torn away from their homeland unwillingly, and you did not grow up somewhere just a hairsbreadth away from deep, institutional racism. Have you ever spent a lot of time somewhere where you were a minority? It's not always terribly comfortable.

That said, someone already mentioned that Chappelle didn't go there for that reason. I don't know if anyone actually does. Is it a thing? But I can absolutely see why someone growing up in America might feel that they need to try to find some connection to where their ancestors came from.

Just guessing. Mostly from Irish/German stock, here. But many generations removed.

>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.


He went to South Africa. IIRC it wasn't anything to do with him being black or having African ancestry. It was just some place where he wasn't famous and could get away from a public that knew him. I figure Europe would have been similar to the US in that regard. Why not go to the east? Maybe not enough English speakers, who knows.

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.

They have relatives living there.

I understand that.

African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?

I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.

And I don't care.

I don't get it.

How does anyone know what the weather is in Hungary. I assume no one looks out the window, because they're too busy watching the weather broadcast.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'weather, news, Hungary, bewbs' to 'weather, forecast, weather girl, news, Hungary, bewbs' - edited by calvados

This is an excellent series. I saw it recently, after watching a similar doco last year,'On the Trail of Genghis Khan', by an Australian who rode from Mongolia to Hungary on a horse. Both fascinating, yet very different. The motorbike trek took 3 months, the horse trek took three years. Ewan and his friend Charlie had huge amounts of expensive equipment and a support crew. Tim had three horses, a tent, a dog and a satelite phone. Each had their own unique set of problems. All of them were pushed to new limits. Excellent stuff.

>> ^tedbater:

The Daily What seems to think it's from Hungary...
http://thedailywh.at/2011/08/11/meanwhile-in-hungary-of-the-day/


In the USA, Hungary is diet Russia; like our 51st state, Canada.

The Daily What seems to think it's from Hungary...
http://thedailywh.at/2011/08/11/meanwhile-in-hungary-of-the-day/

"They" are a glutton for punishment, aren't "they"? Getting kicked in the teeth again and again (treatment of KSM and Manning cases as the latest entries), yet "they" remain loyal partisan voters. Is it really just the fear of what those nutjobs on the other side of the aisle would do if they were in charge?

It sure is interesting to watch though, from this side of the Atlantic, with binoculars. Then again, I don't even need binoculars to see Hungary, and they truly are on a fast track away from democracy -- equally interesting.

>> ^quantumushroom:

The Top 200 Chomsky Lies.
Oh, that's right, it's FOX that has an agenda.


Let's look at the very first "lie" in that list:

The "Lie": “in comparison to the conditions imposed by US tyranny and violence, East Europe
under Russian rule was practically a paradise.”

The "Truth": The communists murdered 4 million people in the Ukraine; 753,000 in Poland;
360,000 in Romania; 300,000 in Belarus; 200,000 in Hungary; 100,000 in East Germany;
100,000 in Lithuania; 70,000-100,000 in Yugoslavia; 30,000-40,000 in Bulgaria; 20,000 in
Czechoslovakia; and 5,000 in Albania. Other atrocities included the murder of over 500,000
POWs in Soviet captivity and the mass rape of at least 2 million women by the Red Army.

I don't have to know anything about the context of the quote to see that the response is nonsense. Nowhere in that quote does Chomsky say that the Russians did not commit any atrocities. He also did not claim that the US committed more genocidal acts than the Russians. He said "conditions", which most people would understand meant things like running water, sewage removal, food and shelter availability, employment availability, and such. So the whole list of atrocities is missing the point of his statement entirely.

Now maybe the conditions were arguably better under US control. I certainly don't know. But the fact that the very first "lie" is so poorly refuted, and the fact that there is absolutely no context around Chomsky's quote given, makes this list entirely pointless.

And I would also ask what you think Chomsky's "agenda" is.

Don't underestimate this ant!

In reply to this comment by curiousity:
Did you fix the embedding right after I made the comment?

Because if you did, your lightning fast reflexes caused me to question reality itself. (Well, maybe not that much...)

In reply to this comment by ant:
>> ^curiousity:

dead - copyright by Warner Bros.
Luckily I got to see it, but my friend is disappointed.


Try again. We go far as Hungary!

Did you fix the embedding right after I made the comment?

Because if you did, your lightning fast reflexes caused me to question reality itself. (Well, maybe not that much...)

In reply to this comment by ant:
>> ^curiousity:

dead - copyright by Warner Bros.
Luckily I got to see it, but my friend is disappointed.


Try again. We go far as Hungary!

>> ^curiousity:

dead - copyright by Warner Bros.
Luckily I got to see it, but my friend is disappointed.


Try again. We go far as Hungary!

Islam is beyond any doubt a menace to the survival of civilization ...The hatred, violence and repression is abhorrent to all decent people...Security can only be assured by the total eradication of all Islamic presence from the community of civilized nations ....Unless there is prompt , drastic and coordinated action , there will be a catastrophe of global and historic proportions ....A world dominated by the savage, brutal and medieval diktats of "Sharia" and the horrors of the Koran would an unthinkable nightmare . This reality was clearly understood by Charles Martell, El Cid , and King Stephan of Hungary , but ignored by modern national leaders .

@ReverendTed – Yes, there's something wrong with it because the corporations are fewer in number than the general population, yet it is the corporate needs that are being catered to. It's wrong because the few who have wealth and power are being served while the common man and woman are being ignored. That's not a straw man.

@NetRunner - Let's “Flesh this out” instead. This is not a scientific study, but it basically holds true. The following is a list of countries that have universal healthcare and parliamentary forms of government where three or more significant political parties are represented.

Australia, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Austria, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Belgium, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Canada, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Czeck Republic, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Denmark, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Finland, parliamentary, universal healthcare
France, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Germany, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Greece, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Hungary, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Iceland, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Israel, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Italy, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Japan, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Luxembourg, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Netherlands, parliamentary, universal healthcare
New Zealand, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Norway, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Poland, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Portugal, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Slovakia, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Spain, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Sweden, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Switzerland, parliamentary, universal healthcare
Turkey, parliamentary, universal healthcare
United Kingdom, parliamentary, universal healthcare

Yes, I concede it's a loosey-goosey correlation, but it would appear to me that a form of government that offers real representation as opposed to our vaunted two-party joke is a form of government that demonstrates cooperation.

@Doc_M – You make me laugh. Who you gonna vote for to save the day? Sarah Palin?