Congratulations on leveling up. May your next hallucinogenic experience be nothing like Malice in Wonderland.

That mouse is just looking to score some hallucinogens and the frog is waiting til it's wasted before eating it.

Sham science is no worse than human beings incapable of following instincts with a view to longevity-This planet at the current pace is doomed. You expect the world to be able to sustain China's lust for the trappings of western civ' creature comforts, all 2 billion of em??
Uhhh, worldwide economic collapse and a resulting culling of 2/3rds of the Earth's population, might make this world a better place.....if we do it now, maybe 3 generations from now, we will be able to do it without a carbon copy of the clusterfuck we enjoy now.

Stop shopping for Christ's sake,(we already have enough plastic shit from china to BUILD an artificial satellite) buy used clothes, grow some frikkin' vegetables that have some goddamn flavor, and say yes to hallucinogens....!!!

God I'm glad I'm not a lab-rat insect.....equally as happy that some folks balls start to tingle when they pick up an Erlenmeyer flask fulla goo for a paycheck....to each his own.

so the one's that are becoming legal in the U.S don't have the wormwood effect then?
i live in th U.K anyway.

hm, just looked it up, seems it's effects are exaggerated:
'Thujone (wormwood's active ingredient) is a naturally occurring
substance, also found in the bark of the thuja, or white cedar, tree, and in other
herbs besides wormwood - including tansy and the comon sage used in
cooking. Aside from absinthe, other popular liquors, including vermouth,
Chartreuse, and Benedictine, also contain small amounts of thujone.'
http://www.oxygenee.com/absinthe-effects.html

it's always had such low amounts of thujone in it that it most likely has no effect. the ingredient that will really be affecting people is the higher than normal alcohol content.
saying that i've had some really mad nights on absinthe.

from Wiki:
'The deleterious effects of absinthe as well as its hallucinogenic properties are a persistent myth often repeated without support in modern books and scientific journals.'

'Today it is known that absinthe does not cause hallucinations, especially those described in the old studies. Thujone, the supposed active chemical in absinthe, is a GABA antagonist and while it can produce muscle spasms in large doses, there is no evidence it causes hallucinations.'

'A study in the Journal of Studies on Alcohol[60] concluded that a high concentration of thujone in alcohol has negative effects on attention performance. It slowed down reaction time, and subjects concentrated their attention in the central field of vision. Medium doses did not produce an effect noticeably different from plain alcohol. The high dose of thujone in this study was larger than what one can get from current beyond-EU-regulation 'high thujone' absinthe before becoming too drunk to notice, and while the effects of even this high dose were statistically significant in a double blind test, the test subjects themselves could still not reliably identify which samples were the ones containing thujone. As most people describe the effects of absinthe as a more lucid and aware drunk, this suggests that thujone alone is not the cause of these effects.'

we can draw a circle around effigies and cast mutating sygils of doom and chaos towards him....admins??, gimme an e-mail and I'll turn the spam-o-matic 2000 machine loose on him.....

I fer one have always felt, that his user name is an insult to the hallucinogenic experience, m'self...

I KNOW......why don't we roast his ass!!!!!

(dag told me to play nice one time.....that calmed me down for about 20 minutes......)

(actually marijuana/cannibas is classed as a quasi-hallucinogen)

I see psychedelics on a higher level than just recreational drugs. Psychedelics can really make you experience yourself and reality in a completely different view. They give such a fascinating insight on the processes that actually go on in your brain. And it's amazing that a small relatively harmless chemical can alter your state so profoundly. I see no reason why people who want to experience this should be labeled criminals.
Salvia also has the added affect on many users that they experience a few days of seeing the world in a slightly different light and report a very positive feeling. Low non hallucinogenic doses of Salvia seem to be very effective anti-depressants in a number of case studies.
Psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD have also shown great promise in psychedelic psychiatric treatment.

"Have to say that this stuff didn't seem that intense at all. I've had experience with a lot of different hallucinogens and this certainly didn't even effect me as much as weed."

Then you didn't do it right, hombre. This stuff makes weed look like a small glass of lite beer.

Have to say that this stuff didn't seem that intense at all. I've had experience with a lot of different hallucinogens and this certainly didn't even effect me as much as weed.

The only hallucinogenic I've ever done. Glad I did for the experience, but don't want to do it again. It's like a drug that temporarily gives you brain damage.

Doc_M here is my take on the death of the conquistador. (spoilers head).

The beauty of this movie is that it allows for multiple interpretations of the entire time line and not just the ending.

One interpretation is that the movie is told using non-linear story telling. The non-linear interpretation leads to the following time line:
The protagonist loves his wife (in the year 2000). She dies while writing a book about Spain set in the 1500s. The protagonist's medical research leads to life extension technology. He prolongs his life for 500 years until the technology to travel through space becomes available. In a romantic gesture he casts his wife's remains (the tree) and himself into the nebula.

The second interpretation of the movie, which I feel more comfortable with, is that the scenes in the movie occur on a linear time line set in the year 2000 (i.e., There is no space travel). The scenes in the bubble are a visualization of the protagonist's inner space. We see this inner space every time the protagonist withdraws into himself. The scenes involving Spain are a visualization of the chapters in the book. They are shown every time someone writes into the book. In beginning the wife is doing the writing, and towards the end the protagonist is writing the final chapter as per his dead wife's wishes. The final scene shows the protagonist coming to terms his wife's death; the blooming tree is a visual depiction of his mind having an epiphany and the conquistador's death shows how the protagonist ended the book (accepting death as the spring of new life). Finally, once he has made peace with his wife's death he is able to fulfill her last wish - planting a tree over her grave.

Obviously Aronofsky wanted to make the movie consistent with the first interpretation. That is why the movie has the whole subplot involving the life-extending medical research. It is also the time line suggested by the movie's trailer. But I also think he consciously wanted the movie to be consistent with the second interpretation and this is not just me reading way too much into the story. The metaphor of 'mind as deep-space' is common in many mystic philosophies. You might have heard the term 'psychonaut' to describe people who engage in deep meditation or those who consume hallucinogens. Also, some of the scenes in the bubble show transitions of the protagonist withdrawing into his mind: example, consider the scene where he lies down with his wife on the hospital bed; the very next scene begins in the bubble and you can see the ghost image of the hospital bed and his wife slowly fading away as he is drawn into his mind.

For this and many others reason I love the Fountain.

In reply to this comment by Doc_M:
I think I've got this film figured out, but I still don't understand the death of the conquistador. If you get it, help me out here.

Doc_M here is my take on the death of the conquistador. (spoilers head).

The beauty of this movie is that it allows for multiple interpretations of the entire time line and not just the ending.

One interpretation is that the movie is told using non-linear story telling. The non-linear interpretation leads to the following time line:
The protagonist loves his wife (in the year 2000). She dies while writing a book about Spain set in the 1500s. The protagonist's medical research leads to life extension technology. He prolongs his life for 500 years until the technology to travel through space becomes available. In a romantic gesture he casts his wife's remains (the tree) and himself into the nebula.

The second interpretation of the movie, which I feel more comfortable with, is that the scenes in the movie occur on a linear time line set in the year 2000 (i.e., There is no space travel). The scenes in the bubble are a visualization of the protagonist's inner space. We see this inner space every time the protagonist withdraws into himself. The scenes involving Spain are a visualization of the chapters in the book. They are shown every time someone writes into the book. In beginning the wife is doing the writing, and towards the end the protagonist is writing the final chapter as per his dead wife's wishes. The final scene shows the protagonist coming to terms his wife's death; the blooming tree is a visual depiction of his mind having an epiphany and the conquistador's death shows how the protagonist ended the book (accepting death as the spring of new life). Finally, once he has made peace with his wife's death he is able to fulfill her last wish - planting a tree over her grave.

Obviously Aronofsky wanted to make the movie consistent with the first interpretation. That is why the movie has the whole subplot involving the life-extending medical research. It is also the time line suggested by the movie's trailer. But I also think he consciously wanted the movie to be consistent with the second interpretation and this is not just me reading way too much into the story. The metaphor of 'mind as deep-space' is common in many mystic philosophies. You might have heard the term 'psychonauts' to describe people who engage in deep meditation or those who consume hallucinogens. Also, some of the scenes in the bubble show transitions of the protagonist withdrawing into his mind: example, consider the scene where he lies down with his wife on the hospital bed; the very next scene begins in the bubble and you can see the ghost image of the hospital bed and his wife slowly fading away as he is drawn into his mind.

For this and many others reason I love The Fountain.

hmmm... if all the angles were right-angles... thats wild.

On the topic of salvia, remember, those wonderful worlds and states you transiently explore only exist in that great mass of electrochemistry that is your personal brain. Its easy to get caught up in those places but there are some mind-blowing things going on in our shared world as well. Coolest thing about salvia that I've read is its not a serotonin receptor agonist as far as people can determine, but a opioid receptor aganostic. Which is very peculiar for a hallucinogen, and apparently leads to peculiar effects when compared to the classics.

A nice combination of the house video:
http://www.videosift.com/video/House-Sculpture-Optical-Illusion
Natural Hallucinogen:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Natural-Hallucinogen-Not-a-trick-it-really-works
and Chaplin mask illusion:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Charlie-Chaplin-Optic-Illusion-A-crazy-optical-illusion-that-involves-a-hollow-mask-spinning-around

No way, I have no problem being a fan of a band. I'm not really a fan of any contemporary rock bands, that I can think of, but I've been a huge fan of bands in the past, most notably Queensryche, but also Zeppelin, and Hendrix, although they were before my time.

I just meant that I wasn't a fan of those bands in particular. I enjoy a few tracks by Bloc Party and Coldplay, but I couldn't name a member of either band, don't know their albums, etc etc.

I am a HUGE fan of Simon Posford, aka Hallucinogen aka one half of Shpongle. I am a big fan of Shift, a trance producer from South Africa. I'm a HUGE fan of Robert Rich, and I wish that there were better robert rich videos to sift. No, I'm definitely a fanboi, just not for Bloc Party or Coldplay.



In reply to your comment:
“why are you against being a fan of bands? you said like the exact same disclaimer before that bloc party video. is because you're a dj? and dj's can't get attached to bands?”