"Now, there is a problem with Pikeys or Gypsies: you can't really understand much of what's being said. It's not Irish, it's not English, it's just . . . well, it's just Pikey." Turkish in Snatch.

I'm not a big Gypsy Kings fan either. You got taste, kid.

the gypsies speak romani language that integrated many words from the languages dominant in that area of the balkans, serbian and bolgarian. when they talk with 'civilians', as they reffer to non-roma folk, they usually talk in serbian language. the movie's surreal plot and characters were in part inspired by goofy italian spy/crime/comedy comics, especially "Alan Ford" by Magnus&Bunker, which was very popular back in socialist Yugoslavia (in the limo scene one of the gangsters is seen reading it). soundtrack is fantastic and all-present throughout the story, as is the classic 1942 movie Casablanca

I actually agree with both of you.

Canada's example absolutely shows how horrific something like this can be. It is easily one of the most embarrassing and sad pieces of Canadian history - something other countries would do well to avoid.

That said, it is despicable on the part of the Roma to not allow their children (particularly girls) to attend schools and join in wider human society. This is one of the many reasons the UN sanctioned NATO to remove the Taliban in Afghanistan - to provide people the freedom of having an education regardless of their gender, social status, religion, etc. People worldwide need to stop blaming "ancient culture" for their idiotic decisions.

>> ^therealblankman:

Just look to Canada to see how well boarding schools work as a social engineering tool used to integrate minorities into the dominant culture. We've lost multiple generations and whole families of indigenous peoples to these policies. I'm sure it'll work just as well in Slovakia.


>> ^EMPIRE:

that's not the problem. they could build all the schools they wanted, that doesn't mean their parents would let or make them attend. they actively avoid becoming a part of so called mainstream society, because of their fucking ignorant traditions.
It's a very touchy subject because Roma are definitely treated as outcasts, but they make themselves into outcasts as well. It's a vicious circle that needs to be permanently destroyed.
For example gypsies here my country wouldn't even let their girls attend school. That's absolutely NOT acceptable in a civilized nation. And when you're a lousy parent, with the excuse of a very shitty ancient culture or not, the government comes and tries to do better than you.

that's not the problem. they could build all the schools they wanted, that doesn't mean their parents would let or make them attend. they actively avoid becoming a part of so called mainstream society, because of their fucking ignorant traditions.

It's a very touchy subject because Roma are definitely treated as outcasts, but they make themselves into outcasts as well. It's a vicious circle that needs to be permanently destroyed.

For example gypsies here my country wouldn't even let their girls attend school. That's absolutely NOT acceptable in a civilized nation. And when you're a lousy parent, with the excuse of a very shitty ancient culture or not, the government comes and tries to do better than you.

Let me your tears Gypsy.

Here's a translation from here. It's actually for the lo
nger news video which is this video with a few extra minutes.

N - newscaster
T - teacher
P - police officer

The scene opens up, with the teacher's hand on the cop's torso.

T: Why do you want to put your hands on me?
P: I don't want to ma'am. (unsure of this) What have I done to you? [he walks out of the doorway to get some distance, not taking his eyes off her]
T: You put your hands on me a few times
P: Don't pull me. Be careful... [as they walk out and, I'm assuming she pulls his jacket/arm (view is blocked by his torso). He deflects her arm by grabbing it and pushing it to the left.]
T: [with her now free arm, she backhands the cop and says] Get the hell out of here or I'll slap the shit out of you! (Note: she doesn't curse, but that's about the closest translation I can come up with that conveys in English the true sentiment behind the words. The literal translation is "Go away from here because I will give you such a slap that you will not see yourself." See, it's just not the same Smile)
P: Ioooooooi. (A Romanian exclamation that conveys, in this case, "Oh no she didn't!") [Cop puts his glasses on. Queue Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who.]
T: Why are you putting your hands on me repeatedly? Why? (Or "a hundred times" to quote her exactly") [Teacher stands her ground, looking furious and aggrieved.]
P: [slaps the teacher]
T: [gasps! Puts her hand on her face, looking shocked. Starts a fake (at least to me it sounds fake) cry.]
T: [walks away crying, raises her arm slightly]
P: [flinches at the threat of another possible slap. Grabs the teacher's arm.]
T: [wails something intelligibly, possibly about gypsies]
[old batiked woman woman opens door of another classroom and says something about this having to stop]

N: The protagonists of this fight are a teacher and a police officer, and the scene is the school in Sanpaul from the county Mures. The two representatives of the state institutions started quarreling and exchanging slaps in front of cameras and in a place with children. (Oh noes, think of the children!!) The police officer had been called to settle a conflict in which the teacher was implicated, after several parents [cue scene of angry-looking parents in a wintry scene] from the town of Sanpaul had accused the teacher of being aggressive towards the other teaching staff. The angered professor also lunged at the reporter from Antena 3 (the channel broadcasting this). [Cue scene with teacher pushing jacketed and scarfed man]

Reporter: We have it on camera.
T: Good. (something intelligible) [Angrily] So I'll push you as he's pushing me!!

N: The parents of some children are unhappy that the teacher is violent in school.

[cue angry parents shouting angrily, not at aaaaaall angry like the teacher]

Woman in white, shouting: What kind of example is this for children, tell me!

[cut to head of police in the area]

Head: Madam teacher was here at the police precinct. She said that she was slapped by another teacher. She will go to the forensic expert and she will file a complaint.

N: The teacher is defending herself and maintains that she is the one who is being aggressed by her colleagues.

T: [very serene and nonchalant] It was about discrimination. I'm very sorry for the incident, but I didn't aggress any teacher. Everything was planned. (As in, this was done to make her look bad.)

N: The Education Minister has started an administrative inquisition in the case of the teacher, and sanctions can be as grave as excluding her from teaching. And as far as the police man who slapped her is concerned, authorities have declined to respond.


There's no question she's nuts. Whether the cop should've done what he is is the only debatable point, though he did stun her enough to get her to stop her crap without any kind of tasering or true physical force. In another vid, she gets called up by a TV show for an interview and basically denies hitting anyone even though it was caught on camera, and then starts yelling at the host for not letting her talk. That vid is here, but nothing to see since it's just a video of a phone call. Translation for it is a good read though, which is here.

Way to go Rob! Buy that man a drink!

"If it wasn't for Jews, fags, and gypsies, there would be no theater...."
(Springtime for Hitler)

I'm sure that was the doing of James Thompson, the guy on the right. His previous profession was "gypsy-beater."

About 5 million. Groups targeted include Gypsies, Jehova's Witnesses, Communists, Soviet POWs, homosexuals and cripples.

>> ^longde:
How many non-Jews were killed in the holocaust?

>> ^demon_ix:
She's not hot... I don't understand why the rest of the world acts like she is...


I disagree with you, gypsy. Pah-mela needs to do more shows like this one. Yes. Very nice.

I wouldn't rape Hitler - I'd let a Jew, a Gypsy, an African, and Roosevelt rape Hitler.

i know from my experiences i tip 20% + in america and less than that when im in europe. the first time i was there old enough to be by myself and picking up my own checks, i had no idea that it wasnt expected of me and certainly not in the 20% + for EVERYTHING. i had no idea until a nice cabbie told me and warned me that me being a tiny single foreign female throwing down the fliff like that was gonna get me taken advantage of. so... i still tip there, because i was raised to believe its showing gratitude for a good service provided, but not as much and not as often. i like the tip for the first round of drinks rule i adopted. i disagree with netrunner, it doesnt have anything to do with status, not for me anyway, really im a filthy broke ass single mom lady, i have no status. but it does have to do with this... i was raised to do it. enculturated by a society that says its the right thing to do. i dont mind doing it. at all. but i do think its bullshit that we pay wait staff so poorly they have to depend on it.

oh and as far as the worst dressed and the loudest, i totally fucking agree. i know i am a loud obnoxious ugly american with no fashion sense what so ever. and well, old navy has taken over our fashion industry. (says the bitch wearing 3 old navy tank tops) so....... i mean ive been ambushed by subway dwelling gypsy kids that dressed better than me.

Wow. . . that was troubling. I sincerely believe this "cat" is the result of a gypsy curse. Just look into it's pleading eyes as it tries desperately to form words. Horrifying.

@MarineGunrock,
i dont think you quite got what i was attempting to express.
i was stating that this was a protest,you may disagree with his methods,i dont.
Noam chomsky said this most succinctly"the man pulling the lever at the gas chamber in auschwitz may be a fantastic individual,a good husband and father,but he was still responsible for the execution of untold jews.gypsy's,gays and christians".
it is the silent,passive consent that i was talking about,not taxes.
this man was polite,never raised his voice,he was protesting.
dont you think he had a point?
when did non-violent protesting become an offense that merits jail?
how..HOW in the supposed land of the free can we have more people incarcerated than any other country COMBINED?..HOW?

i do,however,totally agree that people need to make a living.it is by choice that i refuse to work for some institutions,but thats MY choice.if i have to dick you over for some cash...well..thats something im not willing to do,and i pay the consequences by not having the most stable income.
i do not judge those who DO choose those jobs,but at the same time..they chose those jobs.and if that means dealing with a protester who may make them feel uncomfortable about it...well..so be it.
because thats the only beef i really see in your argument.
that this man was interrupting "business",but when asked to leave by the police,thats exactly what he did.
made his point..moved on.
you disagree with him...
i do not.
i believe in our forefathers intent for free speech,and redress against the government.sometimes protesting is the only way to get your message out.you ever try to speak at a city hall meeting?
good luck with that.
these are some articles that i employ often:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers
hope that cleared things up MGR.
peace.