>> ^fojlz:
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I think the attitudes you show in your reply to my comment and elysse's is a sad case of blaming the wrong group of people because you think we are directly attacking you as a person, since you are male. I am not attacking you as a person; I don't even know you. I am blaming the broad societal attitudes that allow this crap to become popular.


we become "Uppity Bitches" when we do stick up for ourselves!

this is why it's not worth it to even comment about sexism when i see it. it's like trying to teach race equality in a KKK meeting. only right now, at this moment in time (in the states) it feels like the nasty undercurrents of sexism (*and* racism) are getting an opportunity to flourish, and the acceptance that women have spent so many decades fighting for are being taken away at an almost mind-boggling rate... and this type of portrayal adds fuel to the fire.

>> ^Payback

I used sexist terms, and I knew I was when I wrote my comment. Using words like "androcentric" don't usually get you far--in fact, they earn you taunts--so I used what language I thought would be most effective in conveying the sentiment of my point.

I was sticking up for myself as a woman by commenting at all--what I meant by my comment is that it is expected for women to stick up for themselves, but damn, it's a shame that men won't stick up for a person when that person's interests are not immediately their own. Are we all really so selfish and unempathetic?

As for being "annoying"--I find this ad, and some of the responses I see to it, highly irritating myself. I'm responding to my own annoyance.

I think the attitudes you show in your reply to my comment and elysse's is a sad case of blaming the wrong group of people because you think we are directly attacking you as a person, since you are male. I am not attacking you as a person; I don't even know you. I am blaming the broad societal attitudes that allow this crap to become popular.

>> ^jonny:
Exactly what was it that made you assume the person "in the middle" was female? [...] What you see is a product of what you believe.


Really? The ad, regardless of its "authenticity," uses common stereotypes to portray very simple ideas. Most viewers will see the video as it was intended: one woman, three men. This ad is the product of what they want you to believe. And if you didn't see it, then I guess it's unsuccessful, or that "defining characteristics" means something different to you.

>> ^elysse:

you see, on the internets we have been proven not to exist.


...and you never will with an attitude like that. Manly Internet Men help those who help themselves.

UP UP AND AWAY! *WOOOSH*

>> ^Payback:

Why don't the women stick up for themselves?


we don't because even if we can tell the difference between jest (rottenseed...) and a real sexist remark, it's not worth it to get in a flame war (i guess we're "learning our place" after all).

you see, on the internets we have been proven not to exist.

as for the video, i give it no vote: i appreciate the humor and the way the shot was put together, but at the same time i'm becoming more and more disgusted at crass objectification in media (of women, of kids, of men, of animals.. basically of everything that isn't an object has managed to have been objectified in a commercial in some form). even if this is indie it's still revealing an acceptance of disrespect that merchants have for their potential customers.

(i'm speaking as an art model *and* guinness drinker here)

>> ^fojlz:
Aaand this is why the sift is mostly men.
Too bad none are manly enough to stick up for women. Let's continue reassuring ourselves by putting women down!

Why don't the women stick up for themselves? Odd how you think they need "manly men" to "stick up" for them. Yours is probably one of the most sexist comments on this. I've never seen even one of the regulars on here honestly say anything sexist in anything but jest or for mere shock value.

How about trying to educate us knuckle-draggers and quit the whining. You make yourself annoying, not effective.

>> ^Memorare:
what, women don't like sex? or beer?
was the woman there at gunpoint, forced against her will to submit to a demeaning Guinness ad?
grow up and spend a few weeks in Amsterdam.
"shut the hell up, sex is fun and funny!"
-a comment made by an enlightened femme many years ago regarding the absurdity of sex and all the pontificating that surrounds it


So, in Amsterdam all women are used as objects are they? It really isn't the sex that's demeaning, it's not that there is a stout in the ad either, it's that the woman is being used as a table... it is demeaning, it is continuing a trend I've seen of late where online women are being more and more treated as objects... Next time you're having sex with a woman from behind (you know, if it just happens to occur), try resting a drink on her back and see how far that gets you.

Sex can be fun and funny, but treating women like shit isn't either.

Memorare, it's not that making sweet love to women is demeaning. It's that casually using them as a table while you do it is.

Then again, if the guiness wasn't there this could never be sifted, it's a conundrum.

>> ^fojlz:
Aaand this is why the sift is mostly men.
Too bad none are manly enough to stick up for women. Let's continue reassuring ourselves by putting women down!
http://www.videosift.com/video/Tom-Cruise-Suck-my-big-fat-sausage


now why would i stick up for a whiney hole?

Oh, and it is a fake ad.

From the youtube poster (DESchatz) himself:

It really isn't real. I shot the ad with no intention of sending it to Guiness because of the content. IT was meant to either make people laugh or get really disgusted. I rather people felt the former because that's why it was made. Just for fun.

Oh and it only cost $320 for the ad. My equipment, 300 for the actress, and the rest for food and a six pack of Guiness

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of the seeming swing back to treating women like objects these days.

You could be forgiven for thinking that women's lib never happened

In reply to this comment by fojlz:
Hey, thanks for being the voice of reason with regards to the "Sexy/Sexist Guiness Ad" video. I'm glad not everyone just laughs at that kind of thing.

Hey, thanks for being the voice of reason with regards to the "Sexy/Sexist Guiness Ad" video. I'm glad not everyone just laughs at that kind of thing.

>> ^syncron:
Drink our beer, and women will have sex with you.


Isn't that the motto of every beer company?

>> ^Creperum:
Maybe the last hand was her own, I'd imagine that she'll be a wee-bit parched by that point.


If she would hurry up and finish the job, she wouldnt be so parched.

In reply to this comment by Creperum:
why is it only beer ads can do anything funny?

not the only ones