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"Alternative Math" - The confusing times we live in

bcglorf says...

@drradon: I agree with you 100% on teaching both and teaching basic arithmetic first and then leading on to proper math once that foundation is established.

@dannym3141,

I was first blindsided by it when my kids came home with multiplication homework and were adamant they couldn't answer it the way I was showing them because it would be marked wrong, it was the wrong way to do multiplication.

The link to the full Manitoba math curriculum is below. The worst sections are under 'Mental Math' with the idea being that you should be able to add/subtract/multiply/divide all numbers in your head with a dozen pages worth of tricks. The tricks being what newtboy was calling 'proofs'. Our curriculum calls them 'techniques' though and I've included an example from the Grade 3 curriculum verbatim after of how it is supposed to be 'taught'.

Overall Math curriculum:
http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/math/index.html

Grade 3 example:
http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/math/support_gr3/number.pdf

From page 56:
Describe a mental mathematics strategy that could be used to determine a given basic fact, such as
-doubles (e.g., for 6 + 8, think 7 + 7)
-doubles plus one (e.g., for 6 + 7, think 6 + 6 + 1)
-doubles take away one (e.g., for 6 + 7, think 7 + 7 – 1)
-doubles plus two (e.g., for 6 + 8, think 6 + 6 + 2)
-doubles take away two (e.g., for 6 + 8, think 8 + 8 – 2)
-making 10 (e.g., for 6 + 8, think 6 + 4 + 4 or 8 + 2 + 4)
-commutative property (e.g., for 3 + 9, think 9 + 3)
-addition to subtraction (e.g., for 13 – 7, think 7 + ? = 13)."

Now before you think me and observe there's nothing wrong with showing kids some extra tricks to help them, that is NOT how this is supposed to be used. If you read further, students are REQUIRED to "explore" multiple methods of calculating answers and must demonstrate they know and can use all these 'tricks'. So instead of providing assistance for difficult calculations as it should be, it's used to make ALL calculations difficult, and create extra work, AND makes kids just learning the concept completely overwhelmed with everything you MUST know to get a right answer to 2+2=4.

And here's the link to the Grade 11 review of the basic arithmetic:
http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/math/ess_mm_gr11/full_doc.pdf

And for the Grade 11 students and teaching them to add/subtract/multiply and divide, the teacher's guide describes this like a subjective discovery process with quotes like this:
"Consequently, mental calculation activities should include periods for thought and discussion.
During these periods, the teacher should encourage students to
-suggest a variety of possible solutions to the same problem
-explain the different methods used to come to the correct answer and their
effectiveness
-explain the thought process that led to an incorrect answer"

An important note is we are not talking about solving complex word problems here or anything, but specifically for calculating a basic arithmetic operation with the different methods being those described from back in Grade 3 already outlined above.

dannym3141 said:

Could we see some evidence of a curriculum that asks for proof in the form of reducing all numbers to 1s and summing a list of 1s?

It sounds utterly mental, to the point i can't believe it without proof. I could believe that they may ask a kid to do that once or twice, with small numbers, to show that they understand from first principles what is actually happening, and perhaps to teach them to count better. But as a way of teaching to add, i need to see it to believe it.

Near Miss

bcglorf says...

You keep saying that the biker 'committed' to making the light.

As I pointed out, I thought pretty clearly, when the light turned yellow, the driver, based on his speed and time of the video, was less than 30m from the intersection when most any stopping distance guide lists minimum stopping distances as greater than 30m. Physics had him committed to the intersection already.

As for proceeding with caution, I don't disagree, but 100% of the time the person crossing lanes going left is responsible for being sure that it is safe to do so. The driver proceeding through straight should do their best as well, but the responsibility is on the person crossing/changing lanes.

ChaosEngine said:

The fundamental point is that when the light turns yellow, the yellow car IS blocking his view, but he speeds up anyway, essentially committing to making the intersection.

At 0:02 the light is yellow and his speed is 54km/h. Less than a second later, his speed is over 60km/h. I'd argue that you can actually see a turn signal from the blue car at 0:05, but the video is blurry.

Either way, it's entirely predictable that the oncoming traffic in the middle lane might be turning left, so the sensible course of action is to proceed with caution.

I'm not saying the biker is an asshole. He just made a mistake and I'm glad he's ok. He certainly doesn't deserve to be injured.

Why Switzerland is the Safest Place if WW3 Ever Begins

newtboy says...

Interesting, but geography doesn't protect from ballistic and or guided missiles, the most likely weapons of choice.

In the event of a nuclear attack, is being a vault dweller really what you want? It's something to consider....I don't want to be a Morlok.

I would feel far safer in Iceland. Who's going to nuke anything anywhere near Iceland? Europe, on the other hand, has plenty of targets...and would probably have plenty of desperate dying people to deal with. They're as scary to me as the bombs if not more.

Irish People Taste Test American Rum

Helicopter Rescue Accident

nock says...

I don't think the second guy was supposed to get in. He was probably a guide helping get the first (sick) person inside.

"Trump has no desire and no capacity to lead the world'

BicycleRepairMan says...

Well, I suppose he kinda explains it in the video, the US has, post ww2 been the guiding star of the west, being both separated in a unique way, and a steadfast ally, and the, by far, most powerful nation, they could afford and permit themselves to stake out the course and push a little harder than other nations. if , say france or belgium or whatever were to "take the lead" on an issue like north korea, the response would be "You and what army?"

I agree 100% with this video, the west has simply lost its leader.

deathcow said:

> Where was the statement condemning North Korea?
> Other leaders expected it and would have backed it
> but it never came.

Don't get me wrong I despise Trump but why didn't that statement come from one of the other 19 countries?

Tabs v(ersu)s Spaces from Silicon Valley S3E6

ChaosEngine says...

Oh, it's on! If you don't indent your code, you are like Hitler multiplied by Trump.

Anyway, to clear up any remaining confusion:

1. In theory, use whatever the code base is already using. Having a tabs vs spaces fight is a pointless waste of time. In practice, anyone who uses tabs should be fired immediately.

2. No-one actually types out 4 spaces. You press the tab key and it inserts spaces for you. Either that or you are so incompetent at using your tools that you should be fired immediately.

There you go. The complete and definitive guide to tabs (you're fired) vs spaces (correct).

Not that I'm biased.

Jinx said:

I don't indent at all.

Fight me.

Sushi 101 with Andy Milonakis

MilkmanDan says...

On the one hand, having a guided experience like that from somebody that knows the "proper" way of doing things is a very good thing.

On the other hand, I hate snobbery when it becomes sort of evangelical to the point of "saving people from ruining their meal". Maybe they like "candy sushi" rolls, dipped into soy sauce mixed with wasabi to the point of being salt bombs. I do. AND I like good nagiri the "proper" way also.

THE DARK TOWER - Official Trailer

UnfitBit says...

Would seem fitting for the Walkin Dude to be posting of his exploits. Hollywood remix of the story seems to take many liberties but one must hope The Writer has blessed and guided it still.

MOAB Used In Afghanistan Against Daesh

transmorpher says...

$314 million for one bomb that does more damage to terrain than any enemies.

You could have dropped 1000 cluster bombs for the same price and done way more targeted damage, or 10000 JDAMS / Laser guided bombs.

This is all just Trumps ego. He wanted to show how serious he is, and nobody would let him drop a nuke, so they used his short attention span to dangle this MOAB in from of him to make him feel good.

"Yeah, yeah, it's the biggest one we have"

He's not even good at war mongering.

Disturbing Star Trek: The Motion Picture Transporter Malfunc

Rick's Rant - Trump and Twitter

Jinx says...

"The President is very much a figurehead - he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. "
-Douglas Adams, The HItchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Settl

the urantia book-an introduction

enoch says...

@vil
i was going to reference hitchhikers guide to the galaxy,because the parallels are there,except without the humor.

i have read many a sacred text,and even though the book of urantia is written in a similar format,it read more like a government procedural book than anything.i simply could not get far into the book at all.

still,as a text that lays out the workings of the universe,i felt i should add this book to the pile.

no fantastical stories of resurrection,or miracles,or interventions by a supreme being.just a break down of your basic universe's bureaucracy.

the urantia book-an introduction

vil says...

I would definitely recommend The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Discworld (Small Gods in this case) as sources of religious awe and insight over this kind of crazy humourless awkwardness.

Form usually is a good indication of content, and this video is obviously trying to sell a stupid book.



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