Yup, I've seen similar graphs (different base, same result).

If you were to add projected GDP based on previous growth to it, you'd need a drink. If you further added a rough guesstimate of lost output potential due to constant underutilisation, you'd need to make it a double. And if you were to extend it to the entire eurozone and just look at the aggregate of lost output, you might as well keep the bottle at hand.

It'll take decades to undo this damage. Given the precarious situation of young folks in a significant number of countries, I'm not convinced the union will exist for much longer.

Just look at Greece: according to Costas Lapavitsas, some 80% of youth votes in the recent referendum were "no". Now their government intends to subject them to even harsher terms -- that's not sustainable.

Had you seen the graph in this article comparing the Greek recession with the great depression in the US? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33590334

Amazing! I want to see the inner workings, but that is some *quality art/engineering right there. The description said it's like a Spiro graph that uses steel balls, magnets, and sand, but how does it switch patterns?
Bruce Shapiro's works are really interesting.

*promote

Anyone remember TI graphing calculators, which at the time I was using them (90s) I think ran on 8088 processors?

Quite a bit MORE expensive than this. MUCH less powerful, even factoring in Moore's law. AND, they were in no way intended to be an open, hackable design like this is. And even with all those limitations, they became one of the primary "introduction to hardware and software hacking" devices of my generation.

When I was a 16-year-old HS Freshman, I had a TI-81 that I hooked up to a PC with a serial port and "hacked" zShell onto. I learned a bit of assembly code and put on lots of little programs like games etc. onto my calculator. I even got an image display program where you could load up bitmap images that were converted to a specific size and color depth (4-8 grays if I remember right). I got busted in my Geometry class that year looking at a blurry grayscale picture of a topless Pamela Anderson. On my calculator. If that doesn't put me in the running for biggest nerd ever, I don't know what would.

Anyway, I can only see this "Chip" thing (I agree that I'm not too big on the name) as a very cool idea. Sometimes, something as simple as a hackable platform or a blurry 4-bit picture of some boobs can be enough to push someone towards a lifelong interest in IT and other technology. Raspberry Pi and the others are great too, but the price of this one gives it a real leg up in the universal accessibility department!

After an involved effort with Google image search.. I should have just checked the YouTube comments. (Ok. I've looked at it. Now what?) :-)

http://www.globaltimber.org.uk/graphs/malaysia.gif

Well THIS one is obviously a CG interpretation, perhaps arranging real photographs in a 3D program and then moving a virtual camera through them...
But the spectacular Hubble still photographs are REAL in the sense that they are graphs of real photons coming off real stuff out there. Just filtered for different spectra and then composited back together, packing more information into a single image.
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/index.php
I know what you mean though. There are no "natural light" cameras on the Hubble. That would be a waste of space.

It's a bit hard to say whether the fabled Grexit would have been more damaging than The Austerity, has anyone actually done the calculations?

What we can see, fairly clearly, is that the projected outcome of The Austerity by the Austerity freaks has been completely the opposite of what actually happened. Somewhere there was a nice graph showing projected growth vs actual, but the summary is that where they projected growth in year 4, in actual fact the Greek economy actually just kept contracting. (@radx, did you see the graph?)

The reports I saw of the reform proposals were exactly what you suggest, a credible plan to tackle corruption and to use some of the savings to fund social programs and tackle the humanitarian crisis caused by The Austerity. The Grauniad summarised reactions to the proposal as a sensible compromise between the Greek government’s promises and the demands of its creditors.

This is so bang on in every way. I can think of a few occasions that it might be worthwhile - for example when serious discussions are going on it'd be nice to be able to post figures (graphs, plots) from literature, but that's only ever happened to me once and to be honest it might even be more beneficial to the discussion if people have to be invested to the degree of opening other links and skimming to relevant bits.

The memes would be a plague. I've no problem with memes, or even using memes to get a point across. But the kind of ridiculous crap that sits in top rated comments on facebook would just kill any desire i have for conversation. They're click-bait, so anyone can instantly take a like or dislike to it because you can take it on different levels - ironic, satirical, or just flat out face value. So a harmless joke could turn into something other people see as abhorrent, perhaps even forever there with 15 comment votes, under their own video and nothing they can do about it.

We can link memes. People just have to click first - and that's a really introductory level of commitment to reading a comment i think i snobbishly encourage.

Please look at this plot and then tell me that mass vaccination made the population more susceptible to the disease.

These things are easy to look up for yourself. You can do better than this.

Alright, I'm by no means against kids eating healthy, but this is a truly dumb and hypocritical way of going about it.

How the hell is food designed to be addictive? Welp, mostly by making it actually delicious. Fast food doesn't control the market on that, mostly anything that tastes good can be considered "addictive".

Then we go into a graph that seemingly gets larger and larger, implying that these diseases are HUGELY on the rise (which for all I know, they could be. But there's no actual evidence, just a rising graph that turns into a heart rate monitor.)

Infact, just perusing their website they have a whole whack of bogeymen arguments and excuses with nothing that really backs them up. Two parts stand out, One, they want to take action against the CEO of mcdonalds by telling him to take down a website about happy meals. The site has a bunch of stupid videos, games, and even a couple educational things about recycling and animals... very little to do with actually pushing the food on kids.

The second part was about something also somewhat touched on in the video: Food companies say that it's the parents responsibility to determine what their kids eat. Is it really up to the parents?

The answer for them is basically a long winded ":Yes, but because businesses decide to use marketing targeted at our kids, they made it REALLY hard, and therefore, technically, no."


Look, end of the day, parents are responsible for their kids. It doesn't matter HOW much advertising goes into the kids, when you determine what their breakfast will be (by buying it at a store, i.e. cereal), what their lunch will be, and then cooking them dinner, you 100% are responsible for what your kids eat.

The alternative is saying "Here's 10 bucks, get yourself something at school" which is ALSO determining what your kids eat. Kids are weak, given the option they WILL go for the fries with gravy for lunch.

Both versions determine what your kid is going to eat, and both are decided upon by YOU. Stop blaming corporations for doing what corporations do, and just take responsibility.

Your PDF source:
- I cannot find the list of 'climate models' constantly referred to, without a clear identification of what models he's referring to, any argument relating to those models is completely besides the point. How can i fact check that? This should be VERY clearly covered early on, it's the most basic of introduction to your work.
- Top of page 3, unscientific jab at a previous scientist's contribution. Can we stick to scientific arguments please?
- What, no uncertainties? Am i in pre-school? How do i know he hasn't taken the top uncertainty of every model and the bottom uncertainty of every real measurement? These graphs are absolute dog shit.
- Figure 3 - no decent scientist would put an arrow pointing to "subsequent reality" in contrast to the models. That arrow points to the lowest point of a highly variant series of data points, and statistically speaking is fucking worthless (technical term). Plot a trend of the data, this is basic stuff.
- Figure 4 - see previous point, by eye the trend of the data would sit nicely near the conservative estimate made in 1990. If i could see the uncertainties (see previous point) i would know how reasonable this lower estimate was. Without it, i only have the arrow pointing to the lowest point of a highly variant series of data points, which distractingly exaggerates the difference.
- Figure 5 - again referencing "all climate models" which are not specified. Even if i assume this person is telling the truth, how can i check it?

Now i'm going to single this one out, because i'm particularly annoyed by this:

- Figure 6 - DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A KEY TO SHOW WHAT THE COLOURS MEAN - there is no explanation whatsoever, merely a talk of hotspots and how there isn't one...... and furthermore the source of what he calls the 'real data' links to nothing, and unless i'm mistaken, he blames the scarcity of the source on the government.

Trance.......... you are not applying the correct critical review process. This is absolute hogwash, and is totally unprofessional, and i am not surprised it is not published - i checked for you, btw.

Fuck me, this is a real thing!

http://www.thugkitchen.com/cookbook

Make sure you pause at 1:28 to read the fine print.... "It's scientific as hell. We made graphs...and all kinds of shit."

On further inspection, this appears to be a vegetarian cookbook in disguise. Well, if you have to have vegetarianism (or as I call it, the art of cooking side dishes), it may as well be ninja vegetarianism, and at least these guys a) have a sense of humour (something missing with most vegetarians) and b) are trying to get people to stop eating processed crap, so...

*promote being a skilled sunuvabitch in the kitchen!

Horrible analysis by Cenk.

Why doesn't it count when the US invades someone? Because we're talking about religious problems. I hate the US policy of invasion and nation building and whatnot. But that doesn't mean I think it's being done for religious reasons to conquer lands for christendom. Christianity gave up that mentality some centuries ago. If you want to denigrate American interventionism go at it, but don't pretend that it is anywhere near as religiously motivated.

The Islam is the motherlode of bad of ideas statement was clearly leading into an explanation that Harris was unable to provide because of interruptions. I expect he would have pointed out particularly odious articles of belief held to varying degrees across the muslim world as evidence to back up his claim. In any case it was obviously hyperbolic, and never meant to stand on it's own.

So much of Cenk's argument is straw man. Maher did not say that all 1.5B muslims believe the batshit extremist stuff. He refuted the claim that 1.0B (later upped to 1.5B) muslims want nothing to do with the more grotesque portions of Islamic beliefs. They then went on to mention the 20% number, which seems to directly refute Cenk's position without further conversation needed. But Cenk refuses to acknowledge the number, despite his own graph roughly supporting it.

Serious failing in objectivity and logic on the part of Cenk. A bit disappointing, really.

As much as I agree with this:
1) Cite your sources. A talking youtube head isn't going to change any minds, and spouting sourceless numbers and graphs is no different than any media-related coverage that skeptics already don't believe.
2) Don't parody the other side of the conversation. Dressing and talking like a douchebag and putting on the smarmy tone will just insult the people you would otherwise hope to change perspectives.

I get so sick of videos like this. They think they're doing the internet a favor and bringing some sort of truth, but they're just as shortsighted as anyone else.