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bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Today’s MAGA fraud,
Dan Crenshaw coming out publicly, finally, to admit the big lie was always a lie that those spreading knew was a lie but was continued because “people just needed one last hurrah, they needed to feel like we fought one last time.” “behind closed doors we all knew it was lies and said so”.

Brainwashed

luxintenebris says...

that is a problem.

for others than just the beholder.

thru life experience have found bright, reasonable pleasant, and competent humans - that have death grips on untested beliefs.

what is unsettling, is how many more of these people hold positions that are untenable. thoughts that have no reasoning behind them. beliefs like maggots being laid into torn flesh.

many just placed there and accepted.

became acutely aware after a course where the instructor challenged, ridiculed, and taxed his students' values. it was a course in cognitive dissonance (not many made it thru). drove home how many of our beliefs were 'gifted' and never 'opened'.

'tho like to think am not unaffected but less infected, it takes effort to keep one's mind tidy. that's where being open to the idea that you're wrong helps. w/o evidence there's no trial, and w/o a trial there is no conviction or judgment.

...or at least that's my theory.

moonsammy said:

EDITED FOR CLARITY

Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

Brainwashed

moonsammy says...

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.


The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.


Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.


But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

Arrest In Break-In At Democrat Hobbs' Campaign Headquarters

luxintenebris jokingly says...

hee! hee!

need two mouths. one is too little to keep talking out of each side.

what has Lake based her campaign on? lying and false allegations.

now that she is being blamed w/no evidence she is - oh, this is new - THE VICTIM !?

(weird thing: who said she was behind this? have to source her allegations of allegations. easier to believe she's saying what no one said. an awful choice for voters.)

BTW: can you blame newt? on the flip side, bk33 you keep squawking 'phawk nuwz' like a 🦜 when a report is patently true! [hypocrisy example #2]

"God you are gullible." <---[hypocrisy example #3] have to believe there are no mirrors in your house 'cause your so self-unaware they'd only fright you

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bobknight33 said:

Holy Cat Shit Robin

The caught the bad guy.
Dos Reis

Are real Watergate break in kind of guy.

Definitely Kari lake behind this NOT.

Guy looks more like a homeless guy than and operative.

Can't you just wait for a fact before you post 1/2 a story pushing a possible fake narrative ?

God you are gullible.

Arrest In Break-In At Democrat Hobbs' Campaign Headquarters

bobknight33 says...

Holy Cat Shit Robin

The caught the bad guy.
Dos Reis

Are real Watergate break in kind of guy.

Definitely Kari lake behind this NOT.

Guy looks more like a homeless guy than and operative.

Can't you just wait for a fact before you post 1/2 a story pushing a possible fake narrative ?

God you are gullible.

newtboy said:

Bob- “Derp….that news outlet isn’t in the Trump cult, so I can’t listen. FAKE NEWS!”

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/2022-election-hobbs-campaign-confirms-break-in-at-phoenix-headquarters

Now what?

You don’t burglarize a campaign headquarters for cash or food, all they have there of value is campaign materials, you only do it for political motivations. Even a sub 75 iq individual like yourself knows that.

Joe wiped the floor with tiny dick energy Insecure Don from that basement without breaking a sweat.
Lake told her crowd to go ask their little kids if Trump has big dick energy (they all said no)….party of debauchery, grooming your own children to be Trump’s next…he doesn’t have Epstien or Maxwell around to get more little girls for him, now he needs Lake.

Now, how about Ashley Babbitt….she sure did ask for it, didn’t she?

Arizona Republicans Attacking People Trying To Vote

newtboy says...

If it’s so above board, really not simply illegal voter intimidation by heavily armed thugs in full combat armor…why are they hiding their identities?
If this was truly an act of civic patriotism, they would be proud to be seen doing it, not ashamed and afraid, hiding behind masks and hiding their licenses.

bobknight33 said:

Watching voting boxes from afar .. non story

Watching to see if person placing handfuls of votes in the box -- A good thing.

Arizona Republicans Attacking People Trying To Vote

newtboy says...

In another case of Republicans physically attacking political enemies this election, the FBI is investigating a politically motivated terrorist attack in San Francisco.
During a home invasion 82 year old Paul Pelosi was attacked in his home by a man wielding a hammer. Before and during the attack on Mr Pelosi the man was searching their home and yelling “where’s Nancy”. He attempted to tie Mr Pelosi up to “wait for Nancy” when police arrived and he attacked with the hammer, hitting Pelosi in the head before police intervened. Pelosi is undergoing brain surgery.

This was clearly and undeniably another assassination attempt against Pelosi by another terrorist nutjob egged on by the entire MAGot party. (Menacing Americans with Guns)
This is what can be expected as “normal” if the right regains control. Political kidnappings and murders, all cheered on and excused by the leadership.
Watch, the right is going to stand behind this attempted murderer and call him a hero.

@bobknight33, where were you last night? Party of death, destruction, and debauchery….you sure as fucking hell are. Also the party of repeated political kidnappings, thousands of political assaults, and multiple attempted political assassinations. Wow.
Anti democracy to extremes never considered before MAGA.

Pelosi gets under Trump's skin in the most brutal way

newtboy says...

She’s right. He’s not man enough to stand behind his own actions, and not intelligent enough to not admit to serious crimes under oath if he testified. If he shows up, he will plead the fifth to every question, because his answers WOULD incriminate him in serious, treasonous crimes. As he said for years, only criminals plead the fifth, and he’s a criminal.
No matter how long he is sentenced to for ignoring the subpoena, it’s less than the time he’ll get if he testifies.

Living With Multiple Personality Disorder

newtboy says...

This nut job was caught again using fake props to lie, this time hiring actors to stand behind him at Warnock’s low income housing complex and pretend to have been evicted by Warnock’s church from the low income housing it provides so Walker could say “see, Warnock doesn’t care, he’s evicting the poor”….but no one had actually been evicted from the housing complex and his hired crisis actor props had never lived there.

Residents called out Walker during his Q and A session when he refused to answer any questions.

Residents of the complex verified that, while some received eviction notices in the past, no one had been forced to move and the church was working with every one of them to maintain their housing status.

Just one more in a never ending string of nonsense lies by this 100% mental defective thug that held his wife at gunpoint, beat multiple wives and children, and is everything he speaks against…an abusive deadbeat father, abortionist, and violent thug that never ever tells the truth….and a certified, diagnosed mental defective with serious mental issues that disqualify him from being a crossing guard, much less a public office holder…he should be committed for being a danger to himself or others after trying to kill his wife and family in a suicide attack.

BTW- it should be noted he claims to have prayed the multiple personality disorder and various other severe physical mental defects away….not a thing.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Aaaaaahahahahaha!!!

Trump and Eastman just lost attorney client privilege because a federal judge just ruled that they both likely conspired to commit crimes in connection with Jan 6 so cannot hide behind attorney client privilege! Called the crime/fraud exception. Their “work product” must now be turned over to the Jan 6 committee….and then handed to the DOJ. D’oh! Bye Felicia.

“ A federal judge in the Central District of California Judge David Carter just ruled that Donald Trump more likely than not engaged in criminal conduct including obstruction and conspiracy in connection with January 6 and ruled that Trump-lawyer John Eastman could not assert the attorney-client privilege and work-product privilege as a result. ”

Tesla Reveals Robot at AI Day 2022 (HIGHLIGHTS)

newtboy says...

If you really believe their claim here that the first untethered walking test was done at a press conference in public, I have some hurricane proof property in Ft Meyers to sell you.

Under $20k…I hope that’s not as overly optimistic as the semi truck specs were.

It’s pretty far behind Boston Dynamics in ability, they can do flips, hop, even dance. I hope the production version is all they claim, but I’m not holding my breath.

THIS WAS FUN

Trump’s Maralago Home Raided By FBI

newtboy says...

Backfired, eh? How’s that working out now? How many early races Republicans thought were locks have already been lost? How many Trumpian candidates are behind in polls by double digits?

What backfired by poking a hornets nest was the political activist judges reversing 50 years of precedent and settled law based on pure politics…erasing civil rights and threatening to go insanely farther (like making interracial marriage illegal, erasing voting rights, etc) that is driving people to the polls in unprecedented numbers already, and they aren’t voting red.

What also backfired was years of harping on about a few mislabeled low level classified but not secret documents ending up on a server is treason then trying to say over 700 pages of highest level top secret clearly labeled classified paper documents (with no way to trace who has seen it) kept unsecured unlocked unguarded in closets and basements of a home often open to the “public” and repeatedly penetrated by foreign spies after two subpoenas requesting them and multiple false affidavits claiming they didn’t exist is nothing. That’s too much even for some cultists, and WAY too much for non cultists. Sure didn’t drive right wing New Yorkers to the polls. 😂 😂 😂

Going to be even better if someone sues to remove all Republicans from the ballot in Texas since they’re all legally communists now and ineligible for public office in Texas. ROTFLMFAHS!!!

bobknight33 said:

Yet more BS fuckery by deep state to keep Trump from running 2024.

But that did poke the stick at the hornet nest of the republican party.

Boy did this BS back fire

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. What fantasy. Based on what? Nothing. Cite your source if you have the balls.

Biden doesn’t have billions, certainly not Hunter. None of them. Not all combined. Just utter nonsense. Again, cite your source if you aren’t a coward spouting lies you’re making up on the spot.
The $2 billion no show contract the Saudis bribed Jared with, that’s real, is public record, and is being investigated as major fraud/bribery.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-jared-kushners-firm-rcna31805

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-11/how-did-jared-kushner-get-2-billion-from-the-saudis

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html

Hunter, the guy you say is a crazed crack head, flawlessly launders billions of dollars through international banks for Joe, miraculously leaving absolutely no trace at all. The most perfect, untraceable, impossible crime in history.

Sounds a lot like the perfect, flawlessly performed election fraud you still believe where, with no evidence whatsoever left behind, Joe managed the biggest, most complicated, most convoluted, most scrutinized con ever in history from his basement that was so undeniably perfect that the right and hundreds of millions wasted on fake investigations can’t come up with a single tiny shred of evidence almost two years later.

If you really believe the Bidens are such absolutely perfect masterminds, why wouldn’t you want them in charge working for America?….

…..it’s because you don’t really believe any of it, you’re just throwing infantile tantrums and screaming insults as fast as your little brain can think them up, never considering the implications of your stupid accusations. You spout this ridiculous stupidity and say I’m blinded from reality!?! ROTFLMFAHS!!!, 😂

bobknight33 said:

Hunter just launders his family money for the "big guy"

Sad that you are blinded from reality.

Joe Biden Shakes Chuck Schumer's Hand, Tries again?

BSR says...

Clearly Biden wanted a second handshake without Chucks' handshake buzzer. Those two are always trying to outdo each other. Behind closed doors Biden calls him "Chuckles". You can clearly see Chuck has that "Gotcha" look on his face when he gets to the podium.



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