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Payback (Member Profile)

Duckman33 says...

Nice tits.

Honestly, I was curious as to why you would upvote it if you had issues with the content. Anyway, I apologize for the misunderstanding, I thought the statement was directed towards me. I retract my elitist reference comment!

In reply to this comment by Payback:
If you would note, I upvoted your video. I can downvote if I want, but I seldom do. I saw no reason to. I'm all for debate. I was attacking the outcry about the "censorship", not the poster. Try to not take it personally. If you posted a video about pedophiles, I wouldn't think you were one.

Also, there was nothing in my comment that attacked you personally, so as for the elitist characterization, "Fuck you very much."

As for the lyrics being offensive or not, Mark Twain was talking about a man everyone in that part of history felt no issue calling "Nigger Jim". Twain, like Knopfler, was just passing that along in HIS story as well. I'm against censorship, I'm also against sensationalizing minor things because they diminish the large ones.

In reply to this comment by Duckman33:
>> ^Payback:

Oh PULEEASE! It's deemed offense for PUBLIC AIRPLAY. No one is out confiscating fucking CDs. The use of the word IS pejorative, by the way. He's using it as a demeaning term.
This makes me howl. Down in the States, the clean versions used for YEARS. You want to know what I think is ridiculous censorship? Getting rid of "Nigger Jim" out of Huckleberry Finn. Discuss THAT, not this non-issue.


Yes, well when you can tell me how to fit all that into the title I'll change it.

As far as the use of the word in the song being demeaning in this context, I'm sorry but your 100% WRONG! He's quoting something he overheard two appliance delivery men said about musicians. NOT directing the statements to anyone in particular. Wow you're just as quick to judge as they are. I bet you didn't even listen to the song or read the lyrics to see exactly in which context the word was used before passing judgment either. Jewel's "Pieces of Me" uses the term faggot as well. I suppose they'll have to ban that song too huh? The one thing you are right about is it is a non-issue, hence why I posted it.

Here's a few more they missed. http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/01/canada_bans_money_for_nothing_but_still_missed_a_few_offensive_songs.php

[Edit] The title is fixed your highness.

Duckman33 (Member Profile)

Payback says...

If you would note, I upvoted your video. I can downvote if I want, but I seldom do. I saw no reason to. I'm all for debate. I was attacking the outcry about the "censorship", not the poster. Try to not take it personally. If you posted a video about pedophiles, I wouldn't think you were one.

Also, there was nothing in my comment that attacked you personally, so as for the elitist characterization, "Fuck you very much."

As for the lyrics being offensive or not, Mark Twain was talking about a man everyone in that part of history felt no issue calling "Nigger Jim". Twain, like Knopfler, was just passing that along in HIS story as well. I'm against censorship, I'm also against sensationalizing minor things because they diminish the large ones.

In reply to this comment by Duckman33:
>> ^Payback:

Oh PULEEASE! It's deemed offense for PUBLIC AIRPLAY. No one is out confiscating fucking CDs. The use of the word IS pejorative, by the way. He's using it as a demeaning term.
This makes me howl. Down in the States, the clean versions used for YEARS. You want to know what I think is ridiculous censorship? Getting rid of "Nigger Jim" out of Huckleberry Finn. Discuss THAT, not this non-issue.


Yes, well when you can tell me how to fit all that into the title I'll change it.

As far as the use of the word in the song being demeaning in this context, I'm sorry but your 100% WRONG! He's quoting something he overheard two appliance delivery men said about musicians. NOT directing the statements to anyone in particular. Wow you're just as quick to judge as they are. I bet you didn't even listen to the song or read the lyrics to see exactly in which context the word was used before passing judgment either. Jewel's "Pieces of Me" uses the term faggot as well. I suppose they'll have to ban that song too huh? The one thing you are right about is it is a non-issue, hence why I posted it.

Here's a few more they missed. http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/01/canada_bans_money_for_nothing_but_still_missed_a_few_offensive_songs.php

[Edit] The title is fixed your highness.

"Money For Nothing" Deemed Offensive on Canadadian Radio

vaporlock says...

I'm not sure if the article that you cited mentioned it but the reason they are taking the words out of Huckleberry Finn is so that the SCHOOLS that are currently not allowing the book to be read will allow it on their reading lists. In a weird way the publisher is not censoring the book so much as trying to get around the censoring school districts/parents.
>> ^Payback:
You want to know what I think is ridiculous censorship? Getting rid of "Nigger Jim" out of Huckleberry Finn. Discuss THAT, not this non-issue.

"Money For Nothing" Deemed Offensive on Canadadian Radio

Duckman33 says...

>> ^Payback:

Oh PULEEASE! It's deemed offense for PUBLIC AIRPLAY. No one is out confiscating fucking CDs. The use of the word IS pejorative, by the way. He's using it as a demeaning term.
This makes me howl. Down in the States, the clean versions used for YEARS. You want to know what I think is ridiculous censorship? Getting rid of "Nigger Jim" out of Huckleberry Finn. Discuss THAT, not this non-issue.


Yes, well when you can tell me how to fit all that into the title I'll change it.

As far as the use of the word in the song being demeaning in this context, I'm sorry but your 100% WRONG! He's quoting something he overheard two appliance delivery men said about musicians. NOT directing the statements to anyone in particular. Wow you're just as quick to judge as they are. I bet you didn't even listen to the song or read the lyrics to see exactly in which context the word was used before passing judgment either. Jewel's "Pieces of Me" uses the term faggot as well. I suppose they'll have to ban that song too huh? The one thing you are right about is it is a non-issue, hence why I posted it.

Here's a few more they missed. http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/01/canada_bans_money_for_nothing_but_still_missed_a_few_offensive_songs.php

[Edit] The title is fixed your highness.

"Money For Nothing" Deemed Offensive on Canadadian Radio

NMA: Publisher censors Huckleberry Finn, Moby Dick next?

kevinC says...

A new edition of Mark Twain’s classic book “Huckleberry Finn” is causing controversy. The said novel is the famous one in which Mark Twain has been noted for. Many of his works though have been suppressed for various reasons. The publisher, NewSouth Books, has made some startling omissions. The book has had all the words some people discover offensive left out. Classic novel Huckleberry Finn censored in new edition. Twain used dialog that was very common, and was really fervently against racism in any form. Let's hope that payday loans were not used to fund the censorship of an excellent novel.

NMA: Publisher censors Huckleberry Finn, Moby Dick next?

vaporlock says...

Here is more on this.

quote:
In a bold move compassionately advocated by Twain scholar Dr. Alan Gribben and embraced by NewSouth, Mark Twain’s Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn also replaces two hurtful epithets that appear hundreds of times in the texts with less offensive words, this intended to counter the “preemptive censorship” that Dr. Gribben observes has caused these important works of literature to fall off curriculum lists nationwide.

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