>> ^gwiz665:

I really wanna put this in vintage.
Quality!
animation videogames


Dune 2 lovers, check out http://drackbolt.blogspot.com/ ... I haven't tried it, but it looks radical/rad.

QM, you little coward... You don't think Christianity called for killing? You ever read any history? Or are you limiting your awesome view of western superiority to the last 400 years?

Explain the Oklahoma City bombing you little baby.

I can't believe you can watch this video and not realize the only people who have attacked America was funded by US dollars and trained by US intelligence (ie. CIA). That would be the Saudi people like the bin Ladens who are funded through their US corporations, who also happen to be family friends of the Bush dynasty.. Did I mention the same bin Laden family bailed out little George W and gave him a company to run into the ground? Did I mention that Papa Bush happened to have been in charge of ... I dunno the CIA? Also the president for awhile back when Saudis were funneled million of dollars.

Funny story, even Saddam was ... guess what? funded and given arms by the US.. and omg, trained by.. guess who? the CIA. The same group that Papa Bush was head of.

So, if you can't comprehend some small faction of extremists that were funded by CIA, Papa Bush and US-based Saudi corporations and US federal dollars and weapons dumped on the Saudis, you really are the biggest ostrich that ever wrapped themselves in the stars and stripes.

Let me first make it clear that I support gay marriage, because it's about to sound like I don't.

This argument is always framed wrong by both sides. See, gays already have the same marriage rights as the rest of us: a man can marry a woman and a woman can marry a man. Opponents make this argument but then continue with another that's not true: that gays are asking for special rights. Gays are not asking for special rights, they're asking for new rights. These new rights would apply to us all. Straight or gay, we could all marry whomever we wanted, genders be damned. You should be happy to gain rights in a time when they are being whittled away in the name of safety. Just because you have no desire to utilize those rights doesn't mean they have no value. I don't own a gun but I'm glad I have the right to.

This is not about sexual orientation; it's about freedom from government control over your personal life. What kind of "conservatarian" are you that thinks the government should have this sort of power?

@quantumushroom (re: Freedom from Religion)
It depends on how you interpret "freedom from religion". If you interpret it as meaning I should be able to live my life without ever being exposed to anything religious, then no. That's obviously ridiculous.

What it's supposed to mean, and what is protected by the First Amendment, is that I can live my life without having religious beliefs imposed on me by the government. The government cannot tell me I can's go out after sundown on Friday or go to work on Sunday. They cannot make eating pork and shellfish illegal, at least not on religious grounds.

@quantumushroom (re: Gay marriage in history)
Same-sex marriage was legal and common in the Roman Empire up until the Christians took power and made it illegal. They also had anyone who was in such a marriage executed.

Same-sex marriage was also legal and common in parts of China during the Ming dynasty.

Presently, full marriage is legal in Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain and Sweden.

Basically, the trend seems to be that when and where people are reasonably intelligent and not of an Abrahamic religion, gays are A-Ok.

The best part about this is the team that ultimately won (black team) had just won the title 3 consecutive times (2007, 2008, 2009) and the one in 2009 was against this team that they're playing for the title in 2010. They thought they finally got revenge against the big bad dynasty team...and then they came back to crush their dreams. Dream crushing ALWAYS gets an upvote!

Personally speaking - if I had my druthers I would make voting in city, state, and national elections a lot more difficult. Sufferage is a priveledge. Too many voters are no more than bench-filling stooges of the political establishment. They gin up these large blocs of dummies and sucker them into voting for the same rats over and over again. An informed electorate of intelligent, competent, discriminating voters who focus on performance and accountability would not allow these dynasties. A good voting public produces churn. But party politics don't work when there is churn. It doesn't allow politicians to sit back and make a career out of politics. So politicians like these big blocs of bad voters. They keep the 'good voters' from taking away their power.

If I was king for a day, voting would go like this...

REQUIRED
1. Notarized photo ID card
2. Voter cannot have filed for bankruptcy (business or personal) in the past 5 years
3. Voter cannot have been convicted of a misdemeanor in the past 6 months or a felony in thier lifetime.
4. Voter must pass a mandatory class in United States civics (Federalist papers, enumerated powers, Constitution, Bill of Rights, checks & balances, etc...)
6. Voter must pass a class college level economics class (covers supply & demand, capitalism, debts/deficits, etc).
7. Parents with unpaid family obligations (deadbeat parents) cannot vote.

Citizens must additionally present any FOUR (or more) of the following...
1. Current, valid voter registration card
2. Proof of employment (at least 6 months)
3. Proof of residence (at least 1 year renting or owning in a specific location)
4. Social Security card
5. A credit rating of at least 650
6. Proof of having maintained a positive bank or savings account for at least 6 months
7. A valid birth certificate

I don't care if a person is a Democrat, or a Republican, or a one-eyed-one-horned-flying-purple-spaghetti-unicorn. They can vote however they want, but more should be required to vote than simply the ability to stumble through a door.

>> ^Thumper:
Wow and they didn't even get an eviction notice. It's really weird for them to compare it to the great wall of China. This amazing Dynasty and then you realize that they just poured concrete throughout the entire thing killing all the citizens.


I'm glad someone else saw that as well. Haha! It is amazing to see this, but yeah... O' the naïveté of man.

Yes, we atheists are neither citizens nor patriots, George.
Your father though, oh boy, what a guy.
Real patriot. Real hard-working, exemplary American citizen. Let's see what he did for his country:

- A director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

- His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

- Even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

- The firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s.

- Evidence shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.

And that's just scratching the surface.

^{From http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar}

Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws. Mater Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.

Wow and they didn't even get an eviction notice. It's really weird for them to compare it to the great wall of China. This amazing Dynasty and then you realize that they just poured concrete throughout the entire thing killing all the citizens.

>> ^jamessurvivalguide:
>> Farhad2000 -
I understand what you are getting at. However, this observation of yours, that I fear is shared by others, still does not address the issue of what to do when we suspect that a very bad man/woman may be in possession of vital information that could halt the catastrophic loss of lives. I take it on common sense that it's possible to beat someone until they want to confess to overthrowing the Ming Dynasty, whatever that means, but I also know in as much as it's possible to know anything, that if you have a sadistic monster who won't budge his mouth, a sure fire way to get him to open up is to kick him in his ( ) insert your own expletive. But that's just my opinion.


You think torture saves lives? What about the soldiers who are sent out in response to the "confessions" of these detainees. How many soldiers died because some torturer believed he had uncovered the location of Bin Laden, only to have the intel lead to an Al Qaeda controlled area with no Bin Laden in sight? Even if some confessions are true, people die because torture gets false information.

Torture kills.

>> Farhad2000 -
I understand what you are getting at. However, this observation of yours, that I fear is shared by others, still does not address the issue of what to do when we suspect that a very bad man/woman may be in possession of vital information that could halt the catastrophic loss of lives. I take it on common sense that it's possible to beat someone until they want to confess to overthrowing the Ming Dynasty, whatever that means, but I also know in as much as it's possible to know anything, that if you have a sadistic monster who won't budge his mouth, a sure fire way to get him to open up is to kick him in his (***) insert your own expletive. But that's just my opinion.

>> ^Crake:
I had a similar experience in Malaysia where I and everyone else got kicked out of a gym because one of the Sultan's sons needed a massage. I'd think America would have more of a resilience against aristocratic tendencies sprouting, and quickly prune them.


Seriously tough - America loves its aristocratic families... if not in politics, then there's the celebrities, and sporting dynasties...

“I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.”
Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

"We're just a fart in the wind. This ought to take care of all that silly dynasty talk."
Ron Wolf

"If I fail, the film industry writes me off as another statistic. If I succeed, they pay me a million bucks to fly out to Hollywood and fart."
George A. Romero

"Fart"
Blankfist

I'm definitely interested for 2009. I'm in two pay leagues (one is a dynasty league), so it would be nice to have one of a more leisurely variety.

"Tibet was an independant empire from the 7th to 11th centuries.

Later it was ruled by the Dalai Lamas, with increasing Chinese influence, but it seems that historians are not clear when China effectively took control."
Yahoo answers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet

Tibet was indeed a province that was free, before the Qin Dynasty united china.

>> ^syncron:
Tibet has never been an independent state, and there is little practical reason for it to become one. international media is. News agencies like to sully the reputations of rival nations, only because their own governments support such actions.


Also, prove that Tibet supports international terrorists, because I would like to know. (No troll intended.)