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Vance's Incredible 365 day transformation will blow you away
ChaosEngineWell, there are multiple problems with that.
First, I don’t really need to lose weight much.
Second, I’m pretty active anyway, so “no exercise” would never be a thing for me.
But most importantly, I love food way too much to restrict myself to that kind of diet.
Try it yourself for I dunno 2 or 3 weeks. You'll get the same results as in the study.
It's a fun challenge to do with a friend too.
Vance's Incredible 365 day transformation will blow you away
ChaosEngineI can believe that a plant based diet is healthy, but there’s no way that study proves “No exercise, all you can eat weight loss”.
There are a multitude of problems with it, starting with the tiny sample size and selection bias.
I can't believe you downvoted a health study that's from your home country
Do you hate plant based diets that much?
Vance's Incredible 365 day transformation will blow you away
transmorpher jokingly says...I can't believe you downvoted a health study that's from your home country
Do you hate plant based diets that much?
Good on ya, dude.
Vicious Dog Pack Attack
transmorpher says...Be the change you want to see. Challenge22.com
I want to see a world that is like Star Trek, and this is one of the stepping stones imo. And the Gene Roddenberry foundation thinks so too: https://www.livekindly.co/star-trek-foundation-grants-vegan-startup-250k-for-converting-1-6-million-to-plant-based-diet/
My idea of hell is the current world we live in, which we saw in that movie: Idiocracy.
Who Needs Wingsuits?
newtboyIf you made reasonable responses and not suggestions that people should get medical advice from specific Google searches instead of medical professionals and peer reviewed science, we wouldn't argue.
It's a lie to claim veganism cures arthritis, I think that's why you won't site sources, you know I'll investigate and debunk them with ease.
The arthritis foundation has studied dozens of studies on vegan diets and arthritis and concluded results are mixed at best and vegan diets are absolutely not effective to the level of making people totally pain free, are not immediate, they don't work at all for many people, and certainly are not miraculous cures as you suggest, your few third party anonymous anecdotal claims notwithstanding. They also mention a number of serious problems that vegan diets can cause or exacerbate especially in people with medical issues.
I've done enough arguing with you in the past to know not to waste my time making a proper response. I know you're not interested in the sources, you just want to nitpick them.
For anyone that's not in the cattle business and gets triggered as fuck like this guy....just google for plant-based diet arthritis, and it's pretty clear it's what helped this diver HE EVEN SAYS IT HIMSELF, and just about everyone else has the same results, being able to switch their arthritis pain on and off like a light switch by adding/removing dairy and meat.
Who Needs Wingsuits?
transmorpher says...I've done enough arguing with you in the past to know not to waste my time making a proper response. I know you're not interested in the sources, you just want to nitpick them.
For anyone that's not in the cattle business and gets triggered as fuck like this guy....just google for plant-based diet arthritis, and it's pretty clear it's what helped this diver HE EVEN SAYS IT HIMSELF, and just about everyone else has the same results, being able to switch their arthritis pain on and off like a light switch by adding/removing dairy and meat.
No, sorry, ditching meat and dairy didn't cure his arthritis. It's likely that swimming and training to freedive relieved his symptoms by effectively oxygenating his blood more efficiently and to higher levels. There is no cure for arthritis.
Free diving requires excessively high iron levels in your blood, which is exceptionally difficult to achieve on a vegetarian or vegan diet. That's why very few top ranked freedivers (or other top ranked athletes) are vegan instead of all of them.
True, vegetables don't have cholesterol, but poly and monounsaturated fats they do contain can still raise human cholesterol levels when over consumed. It's just not as simple as plant good, meat bad.
No clue where you get this 20% boost of O2 use efficiency claim....have any references or even explanations? It contradicts everything I find that shows only around 1/2 the iron found in those few vegetables that contain iron is useable by the body unlike iron found in dark and red meats.
Who Needs Wingsuits?
newtboyNo, sorry, ditching meat and dairy didn't cure his arthritis. It's likely that swimming and training to freedive relieved his symptoms by effectively oxygenating his blood more efficiently and to higher levels. There is no cure for arthritis.
Free diving requires excessively high iron levels in your blood, which is exceptionally difficult to achieve on a vegetarian or vegan diet. That's why very few top ranked freedivers (or other top ranked athletes) are vegan instead of all of them.
True, vegetables don't have cholesterol, but poly and monounsaturated fats they do contain can still raise human cholesterol levels when over consumed. It's just not as simple as plant good, meat bad.
No clue where you get this 20% boost of O2 use efficiency claim....have any references or even explanations? It contradicts everything I find that shows only around 1/2 the iron found in those few vegetables that contain iron is useable by the body unlike iron found in dark and red meats.
Interesting backstory to this diver Stig Pryds - like many other people , he cured his arthritis by ditching meat and dairy.
He's supposed to be in a wheelchair and on medication.
He started swimming as therapy for his arthritis too, and turns out he's the worlds best freediver......which no doubt makes him talented, but when you think about how not eating cholesterol (only in meat/dairy/eggs/fish) will clean out your arteries, it's no wonder his blood is able to stay oxygenated for longer periods. Along with eating greens, he'll be around 20% more efficient at utilizing oxygen and creating energy.
I wonder if he'll be in the upcoming James Cameron's Game Changers documentary.
Orcas playing with swimmer at Hahei Beach, New Zealand
transmorpher says...If you love marine animals be vegan. Animal agriculture is the #1 most destructive force on the planet.....
You aren't just killing a chicken when you eat them, the chain of consequences has far more reach which is why the UN is advising people to stop eating animals. We are effectively replacing the environment's massive biodiversity with 3 types of farm animals. We'll be lucky to make it to the 22nd century:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet
Wrap your lips around a vegan "beef" patty. They are winning awards these days, so no excuses :-)
Bear And Cub Climb Snowy Mountain
transmorpher says...Help save/conserve nature's beauty - the power is in your hands 3 times a day https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet
Cuttlefish: Wearing thoughts on the skin
transmorpher says...They will be extinct soon unless we help them:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet
Trump On Bullying Ford-"Doesn't Matter, We Won"
moonsammyThe sooner this man's shitty diet catches up to him, the better for humanity.
Never Cry Wolf - Mice for Dinner Scene
gargoyle says...This is a great movie! Farley Mowat up north proving wolves can survive part of the year on a diet of only mice.
transmorpher (Member Profile)
newtboySince I have learned by reading their own words that they are part of a movement to dishonestly rebrand "vegan" as "a plant based diet" (because people know and dislike veganism) and to usurp the positive medical studies done on plant based diets (that are not vegetarian or vegan), please feel free to tell them I don't agree with that.
OK well you'd better let the 12,000 or so doctors, researchers, scientists and dietitians from dozens of organisations know that you don't agree with their terminology.......
Doctors Urge Americans: GO VEGAN!
newtboySince we all get our own definition, my new definition is going to be eating only meat from herbivorous animals and nothing else, hence my proposed diet is a "plant based diet" instead of "vegetarian diet". That puts adopters two steps away from directly eating shit instead of just one. ;-)
Seems plant based diet is defined differently for different people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet
When i (we all know my opinion is the best) use the term, i'm referring to vegetables, whole grains, nuts, seeds, legumes and fruits exclusively, and anything outside this i'd assume is hijacking of the term. Both a vegan diet and a diet including animal products don't fit my definition. My opinion and definition feels the best to me. I am the most important. Get off my lawn.
Doctors Urge Americans: GO VEGAN!
eric3579Seems plant based diet is defined differently for different people
The different uses by everyone here make more sense when you read this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet
When i (we all know my opinion is the best) use the term, i'm referring to vegetables, whole grains, nuts, seeds, legumes and fruits exclusively, and anything outside this i'd assume is hijacking of the term. Both a vegan diet and a diet including animal products don't fit my definition. My opinion and definition feels the best to me. I am the most important. Get off my lawn.