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Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN
Ahhh....but bankrupting the global economy isn't the only way to plan for asteroids, now is it? What we have done is put some money towards developing solutions that could be implemented in time, with minor exceptions for super fast unknown asteroids we likely couldn't do much about if we did have a planetary defense system. What we haven't done is just say "It not certain we'll be hit, so wait until it's a certainty to make any preparations."
In this case, the probability of disastrous climate change is near 100% if you take historic human behavior into account. For many it's already hit. It's only the severity and speed that are in question, and those estimates rise alarmingly with every bit of data we use to replace guesses in the equations. We aren't just driving our Cadillac off the cliff, we're accelerating as if we hope to jump the canyon. Even Evil couldn't pull that off with a rocket.
@newtboy,
" Sane policy makers DO assume the absolute worst modeled outcome"
Here we disagree. When you have a high degree of unknowns in your modelling, you don't always just go off the worst case. Let me argue from the extreme to demonstrate that in principle.
If we are looking to mitigate the risk of an extinction level asteroid strike, we don't solely look at the worst case. The worst case is at a minimum assuming another KT extinction level asteroid out there on it's way to us. Space is big enough that it's still possible one is out there undetected on it's way here in our lifetimes. The probability of that may be low, but it's still a worst case not impossible outcome.
With that known worst case, should we bankrupt the global economy building either a defensive capability to detect and destroy/redirect it, or the capability to abandon the planet in our lifetimes because of this worst case risk?
The answer to me is of course not, you must ALSO take into account other variables like the probability of it happening, the unknowns in the equation that prevent us picturing the problem with full accuracy, and other factors.
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White Lie: The Cruel Abuse of a Starving Polar Bear
I have to agree, since they also claim NO other starving polar bears were seen in 2017, and that sea ice didn't break up early, but in fact it was measured at around 5000km3 in September 2017 and the mean volume since 1979 is around 12000km3 in September, and average ice thickness was the lowest ever recorded for most of the year in 2017....when these articles were published.
The truth is, that IS what climate change LOOKS like, very few articles actually attributed this particular bears condition to climate change. Only those wishing to intentionally misread in order to contradict their own intentional misunderstanding didn't understand that. Lies indeed.
It reminds me of my brother denouncing the numbers on mass school shootings because in some, only one person was killed (but multiple shot), claiming that "mass shooting" meant "mass murder" was his way of debunking the argument and then denying there is a problem.
Right wing debate strategy....Step one, misrepresent a claim. Step two, prove that misrepresentation wrong. Step three, claim that debunks the entire argument the claim was supporting.
*lies
Even if the plight of this individual bear was misrepresented, this still sounds like some climate change denialism.
White Lie: The Cruel Abuse of a Starving Polar Bear
*lies
Even if the plight of this individual bear was misrepresented, this still sounds like some climate change denialism.
Vox: The Green New Deal, explained
Here, Bob.
I've got that super cheap ocean front property that you said doesn't exist, for you. Put your money where your mouth is and buy your own low lying island.
Astonishing the lengths these frauds have gone to in order to sell the liberal agenda. Eroding their own homes and removing long established islands just to get on the climate change bandwagon....right? These people are really committed to the lie. Take advantage and buy some beach front property....or do you not believe what you spout?
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A fools paradise, The ultimate "boy that cried wolf" BS.
This has been going on since the 70's Teh sky is falling.
Now last 30 years kids have been told this farce and like kid do they believe all this BS. Some become senators / politicians and continue to cry wolf.
in another 50 years from now all will be fine, just like it is now.
*lies
Vox: The Green New Deal, explained
Climate Change Is Erasing Large Island Chains has been added as a related post - related requested by newtboy.
Vox: The Green New Deal, explained
Real estate professionals disagree with your assumption.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2019/01/22/study-rising-sea-has-cut-home-values/RTt7hGtvt380KDu6M81WOO/story.html
https://thinkprogress.org/rising-seas-hit-u-s-coastal-property-values-a-pricing-signal-from-climate-change-848bf4e7443b/
https://www.floridatrend.com/article/26619/housing-market-slowdown-in-florida
Also, just try to get a loan for a just above sea level property, or insurance.
And you must think Venice is spending billions to mitigate sea rise as a socialist jobs program, not because of increasing damage from flooding.
Once again, minimal investigation shows that the facts don't jibe with your claims.
Oh believer of self serving lies told by convicted frauds and proud liars you are.
IF GW was true then coastal property would be cheep and going cheaper. people would be leaving at a higher rate. But ITS NOT. People are buying like there is no tomorrow.
Oh believer of junk science you are.
Vox: The Green New Deal, explained
That's why you and Trump are leveraging everything you own and buying up cheap coastal properties that will jump exponentially in value right after this fraud is exposed, or when the sea doesn't rise....no? Why not? If you believed what you spout, it's an absolute no brainer, the fact you (and others like you) don't act on it is proof that you don't believe your own position yourself.
Perhaps it's because the people who tell you there's a vast scientific conspiracy perpetrated for the sole purpose of milking that sweet sweet research money are paid by fossil fuel industries. Perhaps it's because the Pentagon agrees with the science and even Trump agrees when his money is on the line. Perhaps because of the hottest 18 years ever recorded, 17 occurred after 2000. Perhaps it's because these immigrants you are so afraid of are migrating in part due to climate change already. Perhaps it's because numerous Pacific islands are disappearing. No matter why, it's clear you really do believe in climate change, or you would own a huge chunk of Florida coast already.
Pathetic, Bob.
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A fools paradise, The ultimate "boy that cried wolf" BS.
This has been going on since the 70's Teh sky is falling.
Now last 30 years kids have been told this farce and like kid do they believe all this BS. Some become senators / politicians and continue to cry wolf.
in another 50 years from now all will be fine, just like it is now.
*lies
Green New Deal: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Basic human empathy?
I can't predict the future accurately, but I can say that there is a high probability (certainly more likely than not) that climate change is going to hit humanity hard.
Now I suspect we'll get through it. We've survived ice ages and so on. It's just gonna suck for a few decades/centuries.
In fact, the only real solution I see to climate change is to significantly extend the average human lifespan. If everyone alive was suddenly going to be here for the next 200 years, you might see some actual policy change at the highest levels.
Why?
Green New Deal: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Well, it'd quell my worries as far as climate change affecting me.
But I'd still die feeling bad for everyone who was still around.
If I told you that you were going to die in a car accident tomorrow, would that quell your worries about climate change?
Never acquired a taste for beer.
Green New Deal: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
If I told you that you were going to die in a car accident tomorrow, would that quell your worries about climate change?
Never acquired a taste for beer.
It won't help, but by the end, there won't be a choice.
Also no beer... the hops are all dead.
Green New Deal: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
It won't help, but by the end, there won't be a choice.
Also no beer... the hops are all dead.
You've already said that wouldn't help near enough. OH! And and a drink. Anything. Whatever you think is best.
Green New Deal: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
The older I get, the more fatalist I become about climate change.
Honestly, we've missed the boat on this. We're fucked and there's nothing we can do about it.
And anyone who says that you can make a difference is talking out their arse. The actual useful things you can do are:
1: have less (preferably no) children. This dwarfs any other action you can take by a factor of 5.
2: Switch to a plant-based diet
3: Stop flying
Ok, 1 is not going to happen. People are still having kids and there hasn't even been any serious public debate about this (despite it being the single most impactful thing any individual can do).
2 and 3 will help, but nowhere near enough.
The ONLY thing that could have saved us is what Extinction Rebellion are proposing: attack climate change on a total war footing. Convert the entire economy over to fixing this.
And it needed to happen a decade ago.
But our leaders ignored this, and now it's too late.
I feel bad for anyone who has kids, but frankly, I'm just hoping the worst of it doesn't kick in until I've kicked the bucket.
Antarctica Is Losing Ice At An Accelerating Rate
Did you forget? You think it's fake news. You said climate change is a Chinese fraud and a liberal scam.
Try to keep the lies straight, Bob. You aren't towing the party line properly.
Looks like people need to move.