>> ^Drachen_Jager:

"She has had ataxic cerebral palsy from birth that led her to a passion for technology, which was strictly forbidden by her father's backwards views."
What do you mean 'backwards views' she used that technology to upload this video to YouTube, thus proving his position correct right? I mean the technology he wanted to forbid was the very thing that will (likely) lead to his downfall.


Just to clarify, that was the description from the original video, written by the girl who was being spanked (I believe she was a teen when this video was taken, and is now in her twenties).

But yes, I agree, it will likely lead to his downfall. Which has led to things like this: http://i.imgur.com/J6Qg0.jpg

>> ^longde:

I don't count a comedian as an authority on something so serious, but would love to see some scientific study on the effectiveness of spanking.



Longde: I am at work so I should be doing other stuff and haven't given this a thorough read through, but this may be what you're looking for: http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=RbpT9Ln5WZMC&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=is+corporal+punishment+effective&ots=rvL1wmQQhz&sig=3DrEF-Ip_6b8OAOuH9ZL9RxWU
aw#v=onepage&q=is%20corporal%20punishment%20effective&f=false

I also found a couple papers, as well but I don't know if you have access to journals; if you do let me know and I will go track them down.

>> ^longde:

I was punished with a belt as a child, and it NEVER left bruises. It did leave welts that lasted a day. And you're damn right I was afraid of disobeying my parents and afraid of punishment. Thank heavens you guys weren't around to toss me into a foster home.


Sorry, but if that's the case, then your dad/mom were/are wimps, because I can tell you when I got belt whooped I had bruises and welts that lasted more than one day. And they stung like a bitch.

>> ^longde:

@TheFreak yeah, well at least I don't adhom people for having differing opinions. That puts me 10 levels above you.


If only that were so. But I'm afraid it takes more than an insulting comment directed at you on the internet to raise your status above the level of "Mother Felcher".

But cling to your sense of superiority if you like. One day when you're standing over your pleading child, burning with rage and blind to the terror in his/her eyes, you can remind yourself that not only do you have a god given right to do such a thing in your own home...but you are also far better than some random guy on the internet who thinks you're a royal cunt.

>> ^longde:

@Yogi, not saying your spankings were as bad as this girl's, but do you think they were abuse?


Is it abuse to stifle someone? To make sure they shut the hell up and just do the menial bullshit that people believe will make them better at life? I think it's abusive for it to go from me being bad to being beaten without anything in between yes. There was no talking, no explanation...nothing. And furthermore it never worked, I would forget about it the next day and go on doing what I was doing before.

That to me is the greatest crime...if a tactic does not work you have to change your thinking. When people don't do that I severely disrespect them. They're stupid and pathetic and they hold onto disproved theories like children.

Like Louis CK says, it doesn't fucking work...so there's no reason to do it at all. You do something that consistently doesn't work you just shouldn't have kids.

>> ^longde:
I was punished with a belt as a child, and it NEVER left bruises.
It also apparently did nothing to make you less of a douchebag.

>> ^longde:

Getting hit by a belt, painful as it may be, is not abuse. And as such, none of your business.


Let's assume for a moment that this is true. Then is getting hit by a belt fifty times abuse? What about a hundred? What about thousands of times? What about getting hit by a belt repeatedly over a period of years, so many times that you have psychological trauma which lasts for the rest of your life? These are not rhetorical questions. I demand that you answer each of them to defend your position. If you can't, then I demand video of you getting hit by a belt. Thousands of times.

Yea I was swatted at, spanked with a wooden spoon, fed soap, etc. I'm not against negative reinforcement but in the case here, the girl is clearly afraid of her parents and they clearly go over the top in continuing to torment her. The kid was screaming for them to stop and there was plenty of time for the parents to reflect on the situation and ask themselves "do I think she's learned her lesson?" The parents were also "emoting" their own anger upon the child. That's not right. You should never inflict damage upon somebody based on your anger. I can't do that in the streets, why should I be able to do it with my child?

You can't just call the "objective definition" card to win an argument when circumstance has to determine the severity of the actions. If she got drunk, stole her mother's vehicle and ran over a group of preschoolers, then raped their remains, I'd say "yea, that is an adequate reaction". But this is over a computer. He was clearly just angry that she disobeyed him, which is purely egotistical. And this man is locking your peers up. I wonder how often he gets emotional and angry when sentencing somebody...I wonder how objective he is in that situation.

I'd like to know...where do you draw the line...also, what's your real name so I can make sure my kids will never be around you.>> ^longde:

Until you guys can give me an objective definition or objective standard of abuse, you're just emoting over your own personal line in the sand on the matter.
It's great to feel a sense of self-righteousness, until you're a parent, and you happen to cross another person's arbitrary line in the sand.
I was punished with a belt as a child, and it NEVER left bruises. It did leave welts that lasted a day. And you're damn right I was afraid of disobeying my parents and afraid of punishment. Thank heavens you guys weren't around to toss me into a foster home.

>> ^longde:

Until you guys can give me an objective definition or objective standard of abuse, you're just emoting over your own personal line in the sand on the matter.
It's great to feel a sense of self-righteousness, until you're a parent, and you happen to cross another person's arbitrary line in the sand.
I was punished with a belt as a child, and it NEVER left bruises. It did leave welts that lasted a day. And you're damn right I was afraid of disobeying my parents and afraid of punishment. Thank heavens you guys weren't around to toss me into a foster home.


My metric: causing lasting emotional damage.
It is evident by the mere fact that this video has been posted by the abusee that Judge Willam Adams caused her emotional damage that sticks with her to this day.

I guess it really is none of our business, I mean it's in the privacy of their own home. I guess it's none of our business who people rape or kill either. I mean who are we to judge how people act? Just because we have to share this planet with cunts like this doesn't mean we have the right to cast opinion on their behavior just because a minor is involved.

I don't SUBSCRIBE to corporal punishment by the state and I don't think it's right to beat the crap out of a scared child. Over the top...furthermore this guy is in charge of trying suspected criminals...he should be held to a standard of reason and restraint.>> ^longde:

She disobeyed her parents, and got an asswhuppin'.
End of story.
I know some of you don't ascribe to corporal punishment, but it's none of your business how parents choose to discipline their kids in their homes. None.

Judge William Adams? I didn't know you had a Videosift account.

P.S. Ever been whooped with a belt? I have. It leaves bruises and welts, that last for weeks. So by your very own definition, this is child abuse.

>> ^longde:

Getting hit by a belt, painful as it may be, is not abuse. And as such, none of your business.

>> ^longde:

Getting hit by a belt, painful as it may be, is not abuse. And as such, none of your business.


I will respectfully disagree. I sure as hell was spanked when I was a kid, and I plan on doing the same to my kids if they are out of line.

This, however, is obscenely far beyond reasonable punishment in my eyes.

>> ^longde:

She disobeyed her parents, and got an asswhuppin'.
End of story.
I know some of you don't ascribe to corporal punishment, but it's none of your business how parents choose to discipline their kids in their homes. None.


This is not true. Legally, it IS our business - and both of our obligations - to report him to child protective services. How does what is depicted in the video NOT come off as abuse?

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/FA/htm/FA.261.htm

>> ^longde:

She disobeyed her parents, and got an asswhuppin'.
End of story.
I know some of you don't ascribe to corporal punishment, but it's none of your business how parents choose to discipline their kids. None.


No, there is spanking and there is terrifying and beating your child, big difference. One requires intervention and one does not.

Hah, and the mom thanking her, that was rich.