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Saluting The Heros Of The Pandumbic

JiggaJonson says...

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Trump Pretends He Never Compared Coronavirus to the Flu

Mystic95Z says...

Nah its all because Trump is just a damn idiot with a loyal following of idiots, that cant be explained away and every daily briefing he gives cements it.

We are now close to living in an Idiocracy...

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JiggaJonson says...

You know, because he downplayed this so much along with Fox news, americans are dying.

Blah blah blah china, blockade, yeah he did that while he was calling the virus a democrat hoax. because he did that and kept slashing funding for various gov programs designed to protect us from this --- AMERICANS ARE DYING - more than would have died otherwise.

Cant get much more anti-american than killing a bunch of americans. but I always thought you were a traitor.

bobknight33 said:

Priorities USA. Totally Anti Trump, Anti American.

But hey that the lane your in.

For al the bluster Trump does, He still way teh fck better than Biden or Sanders.

Thump has a good team in place to fight this. Can it be stopped? only in a Communist country can lock down 100%. America cant do that with out bitching and lawsuits and state / local opposing, not to mention the media jumping piling on even more for Anti Trump Slant.

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

Priorities USA. Totally Anti Trump, Anti American.

But hey that the lane your in.

For al the bluster Trump does, He still way teh fck better than Biden or Sanders.

Thump has a good team in place to fight this. Can it be stopped? only in a Communist country can lock down 100%. America cant do that with out bitching and lawsuits and state / local opposing, not to mention the media jumping piling on even more for Anti Trump Slant.

JiggaJonson said:

this is one of the more sensible things you've said, but it's a bit late for that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMwvmJLnc0

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Capitalism Didn’t Make the iPhone, You iMbecile

vil says...

1) Definitely - but without a market improvements fall flat and dont stick. Ancient people had a lot of good ideas but overall progress was really slow and retrograded often until.. well until capitalism became a thing. Abolishing serfdom, general civil rights, separation of church from state and the fall of absolutism made the Iphone possible.

2) No, that is my point. People "discover" things all the time, some of these things are deemed useful by the general public and capitalism provides the tools to finance production and distribution (the profit part is optional - it is entirely legal to sell your invention for any price or indeed give it away for free).

So to get to the original point capitalism did not discover or design the Iphone but it certainly MADE the Iphone.

3) Not impossible but incredibly slow. Generations lived out their entire lives without perceptible changes in their environments prior to the onslaught of capitalism and the industrial revolution. The advent of science from the renaissance onwards was OK, but only once factories and transport infrastructure became a thing did living conditions start to change for everyone.

A big problem with free markets is that they are never really "free". A theoretical free market implies too many things that dont ever happen in real life, like everyone having all relevant information and being able to make a good decision. People just dont do that IRL.

Also not everything can be solved by free markets because you cant just let your neighbors die poor because the market says they deserve it. However the Iphone is really not something the state should subsidize. I understand that it paid for some of the technology that went into designing it. But true socialism would have to make sure everyone could afford one, and would design a cheap bad phone to fit the need.

newtboy said:

1) There are many incentives not based on profit too, as you mentioned. I don't think it's an either/or equation.

2) Didn't iPhones basically create the smartphone market?

3) The implication is that without capitalism, science and progress are impossible.

Capitalism Didn’t Make the iPhone, You iMbecile

geo321 says...

Canada foreign policy is to help the US overthrow governments.Canada helping overthrow governments for zero legal backlash because you cant sue back to Canada

Trump VS Trump On The Kurds

vil says...

This is one of the problems with nation states, if you dont have one, youre f*cked. If youre born a Kurd, youre done and PKK sure looks like a good option. Theyre a terrorist group, cant be an army if they dont have a state.

Think of it as three Northern Irelands without an actual Irish Republic to fall back on. And the Irish are all terrorists too, whenever necessary.

Amazing what we worry about (no new gas heaters for homes in Germany is a recent idea) when this is a thing.

Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN

vil says...

We can still steer between the different possible future realities.
Like that large scale famine or water shortage is preferable to nuclear war or global deadly disease outbreak. Which will it be, food or water? Reality will get more unpleasant before it has a chance to improve. Can we outrun the population and ecosystem gun with science? Possibly. Problem is society and morals cant keep up.

We have resources to do ANYTHING. Send people to Mars. Make water out of thin air and grow tomatoes in the desert. The only thing in the way are nation states and their institutions, and human instincts. The only thing that keeps those in check is culture and morals. There is no such thing as international law unless you are willing to go to all out war to enforce it (not possible since WW2).

And the "leader of the free world" is busy building a wall around his office.

So we probably need to be deceived or else we would all be hysterical without antidepressants.

Still a hysterical voice is not the voice of reality for me.

newtboy said:

That's why we're hosed imo, humans are too willing to be deceived if the lie is more pleasant than reality..

Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN

bcglorf says...

You’re reading it wrong. The IPCC is showing temperature anomaly relative to a specific time frame, you have to compare against the same starting time frame or it is meaningless. Which is by the by an extremely frequently repeated trope used by the hard core denial side.

If you cant find comparable reference frames, use change from a common year. Go look at NOAA’s temps for 2000 and 2019 and take the delta, then compare that delta to the IPCC, you’ll find both fall around the sub 0.5C of change from 2000 to 2020, close ish at least to one another.

Edit:
That may have been a lazy explanation. I went and looked for your 0.83 for 2018, which looks like it is referencing a NOAA release, it lists it's values as calibrated against the 1951-1980 mean.
The IPCC however lists their own numbers as calibrated against the 1986-2005 mean.
Obviously, the mean temp from 1951-1980 is gonna be much lower than the the mean from 1986-2005, so you can't to a direct comparison. If you look at the instrumental portion of the IPCC results you'll see how much it 'under' hits the NOAA data too, just because it's calibrated to a warmer baseline.
Make sense?

newtboy said:

Lol. Their chart predicts below .5C by 2020, we reached .83C last year. Stopping there.

Hasan Minhaj Calls Out Congress Over Student Loans

Mystic95Z says...

Yep, that was a oh snap line!

The sad thing is someone who's having a bad financial time cant wipe the student loan debt via backruptcy, yet we have a six time bankrupt loser as president...

moonsammy said:

Gotta love that dig in the last line!

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