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White House Chief of Staff Admits Quid Quo Pro in Ukraine

Drachen_Jager says...

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. Trump didn't care that everyone assumed he was hiding his taxes because he was committing tax fraud. That means the truth is worse.

What's worse than a felony in Trump's world?

People realizing he's bankrupt.

Why does Russia have such a hold over him?

Well, we know he's borrowed huge sums from Russian oligarchs, we don't know how much, because he won't open up his finances, but it's a pretty safe bet those loans are all that's keeping him afloat.

Everything that he's done only lends proof to the hypothesis. He bends over backwards for Russia or any tin pot dictator who can do him a 'favour' and he uses every bit of power he can muster to throw business toward his failing empire.

Trump was never a good businessman. His father cheated the tax code to gift him New York real-estate that would be worth 12 Billion today if Trump had simply held on and maintained the properties. Decades of wheeling and dealing later, he himself claimed he was worth about 2 Billion, and most realistic estimates placed his wealth well below a Billion. And that's in spite of his fraud, chicanery, stiffing contractors and investors, and general malfeasance.

He's always been an idiot. He's been blacklisted for decades by every American bank. They won't touch him, they won't look at his business plans and they won't even think of giving him any kind of loan.

How any American can look at him and think he has the slightest clue what he's doing, or think he actually cares about anyone other than himself is beyond me.

Rick Wiles Says 'Every Christian Should Disavow Alex Jones'

newtboy says...

Absolutely not.
Jones Jones is a lunatic who spouts pure insanity, and your chosen president believes the nonsense is news. Your ridiculous equivocation is absolutely insane.

You aren't the only conservative voice here, but you are a minority.

Your admitted fraud, pedophile (miss teen America), pedophile supporting (Roy Brown), incestuous (daughter lusting), adulterous (with his friend's wives), consummate liar, political flip flopping (see any interviews before 2000), Russian stooge, ally debasing, repeatedly failed businessman has debased American values, and your ilk have gone along hand in hand, erasing those values from your mind as he violated them.

Open borders exist only in Trump's deluded lies he sells you to get you riled up and unthinking. No one in power advocates open borders, that's just a bold faced lie. Your willingness to repeat it only demonstrates your gullibility and naivete.

bobknight33 said:

CNN is unhinged just like MSNBC. Each wacked. Like Jones Jones is just more theatrical.

You bet. I use You people. Since there is no conservative voice here. It’s me against you people. The lost degenerate soles who desires are to debace America values and dilute its citizenship with open borders.

Trump wants all to be proud.

Michelle Wolf at 2018 White House Correspondents' Dinner

ChaosEngine says...

Trump is a fucking disaster at every conceivable level. He's a terrible president, a shitty businessman and a failure on the most basic human levels.

The question is: do we call this a special circumstance and disregard our own standards of civil discourse? Do we NEED to abandon etiquette (and possibly ethics) because the alternative is so much worse?

Or does that just play into his hands? Insulting Trump like this is kinda like playing chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

And THAT is his one skill.

Mordhaus said:

Just wasn't funny to me. Seemed like they were just trying too hard.

It really says something to me when the President of the organization that sponsors the event makes a statement distancing themselves from the host.

"Last night's program was meant to offer a unifying message about our common commitment to a vigorous and free press while honoring civility, great reporting and scholarship winners, not to divide people," Talev said. "Unfortunately, the entertainer's monologue was not in the spirit of that mission."

Talev's Sunday night email to members indicated that changes could be afoot. She said she and SiriusXM's Olivier Knox, the association's next president, "are committed to hearing from members on your views on the format of the dinner going forward."

How the Democratic Party Departed from the American Idea

newtboy says...

Wow, is he backwards.

Trump...loyal? He's got to be kidding. Trump is loyal to himself and absolutely nothing else. You don't force taxpayers to bail you out at least 8 times if you're loyal to your nation or stockholders (or if you're a decent businessman). You would be hard pressed to find a single person who's ever done business with Trump that would call him "loyal".

I just dropped 3 IQ points by watching the whole thing....I better go watch a NOVA marathon before it becomes a permanent loss.

Vicente Fox is Running for President of the United States

bobknight33 says...

A Mexican businessman is good enough to be the Mexican president but Trump is not good enough to be POTUS.

The man who ran a corrupt country for 17 years that is still so bad its people are leaving in droves.

Fox falls from grace amid corruption probe but You select him over Trump.

America should have kept Mexico way back when invaded it. It would be a better place today.

Of course this is from @newtboy. Supporting any other Country but America.

Former CIA Dir. On Jared Kushner/Russia Secret Communication

newtboy says...

Only in your Trump addled mind.
It came from congressional hearings, not reporters.
This story has just begun.

You might note that none of the investigations Trump (and so you) call fake news have ended without finding evidence of improper behaviour with his people and the Russians during the transition.
Not one. That's because the only fake news is coming directly from the white house now, with 7 different, contradictory explanations for their actions every time they're caught, which is a few times a week. That's what happens when an idiot failure of a businessman doesn't understand that governing is different from owning a company that the board runs, or that public service isn't done in secret for your own financial gains.

bobknight33 said:

Yet another liberal Fake news story.

Again this story has failed.

Greg Gianforte, Trump and the First Amendment

newtboy says...

Yeah, Fox is the bastion of fairness and balance.......and the sky is a lovely shade of green. Edit: Fox can't even stop claiming Clinton/DNC murdered a man over leaks the Russians made, the best they can do is pause while indicating the story is still true but out of respect/bowing to pressure they'll stop covering it for now.

He originally claimed he never touched the man, even though he knew the Fox reporter saw him. The only sane conclusion is he expected them to go along with his lie because he's Republican.

That's not what I read, both before and after the attack. The point is, this is not acceptable behaviour, and that made little difference because 1)early voting before it happened and 2) Republicans will vote for any frothing idiot if they just put an (R) in front of their name.

Nope, not kidding. They elected Trump, a womanizing, racist, classist, classless, serial philanderer, proud liar and deceiver, falsely pious, groper, repeatedly failed businessman that never reads the contracts he signs who is the worst kind of partisan con man. 8 years of hating Obama screwed with your heads. You're so incredibly deluded you still think Trump is winning big time. You probably repeated the bullshit about child slave pizza, you buy into every other insane conspiracy theory Alex Jones dreams up. Who promotes the worst again? You know, like baseless accusations of murder and child slavery being repeated for months on national tv? Like frothing rage over Benghazzi, but total head in the sand over Trump's imploding administration and his Russian ties involving every person in his administration it seems, all angrily lying about it until recordings surface then going silent? Yeah, using an unsecured email server, that's much worse than just telling our enemies state and intelligence secrets and leaking far more while creating enemies of the press and intelligence community (both ours and our allies). Worse than setting up a secret communication channel through the Russian consulate because you don't trust American intelligence agencies but do trust Russia? Much worse. Lock her up...Lock her up....Lock her up.

Democrats represented more Americans than Republicans if you go by votes...so if one party represents Americans and the other doesn't, you have it backwards. (Truth be told neither represent their constituents, but democrats come closer).

bobknight33 said:

""Fox reporters would lie with him, but they didn't"". ??? On what grounds do you state this ??? Fox is more fair and balanced than CNC/MSNBC and others.


HE was not expected to wing by a land slide It was to be close, which it was.


" Republicans have totally sacrificed their morality " Are you kidding. Democrats are the party of Debauchery. Democrats are a joke. Republicans have slipped to a new low but democrats promote the worst of society.

Democrats are American but they represent the blinded sheep degenerated by its politicians.

Trump pushes aside NATO ally and Preens for the camera

newtboy says...

If he was their boss, it would still be a douchebag, insecure, abusive move to just shove them aside....
.....but he's NOT their boss.....
..making this a pure dick move by a little cry baby that has to be front and center at all times or he throws a tantrum, a dick move meant to disrespect other diplomats and by extension expose his total lack of respect for any non American country.
This is not how you get others to work with you....which is his job.
Fostering dislike and disrespect between yourself and those you must negotiate with is just plain dumb.
Trump is dumb, and not a good negotiator (before you cry "but he's rich", prove it, because he's completely refused to prove he has 2 nickels to rub together....and before you cry "but he's a great businessman" most of his negotiations are actually done by others, to the extent that he doesn't have a clue what's in many/most of the contracts he signs, according to his own sworn testimony, making him the dumbest kind of negotiator and businessman possible).

Boss Trump....yep, like a boss....like this boss.


bobknight33 said:

Boss Trump!

Stephen Fry Explains Why Some Believe Everything Trump Says

bitterbug says...

Except that he didn't. He took that million, made investments, got a job with daddy, and within 15 years had accrued massive debt.

When his father died he got a massive inheritance. That's where his wealth comes from.

And, as John Oliver pointed out with great humor, Trump has had one failure after another as a businessman. But his name has recognition so it's useful as a brand. So OTHER people put his name on their buildings and such, and then he swaggers around taking credit for it.

You bought the yellow kool-aid, and now you're smiling through it and trying to tell us it doesn't taste like piss.

bobknight33 said:

He turned a million into Billions. Doesn't sound dumb to me.

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Can Trump read?

newtboy says...

But a real estate mogul who NEVER reads rental agreements that he signs?
A businessman who NEVER reads contracts that he signs?
That's pretty abnormal.
After 50+ years of doing it, would would expect him (or anyone who can read) to have picked up the terminology, wouldn't you?

Now he's a president who probably doesn't read the laws, executive orders, and military orders he signs and has no experience at all dealing with any of them. Terrifying. If he's not prepared to read fine print, he absolutely should not be running a company, much less a country. Details matter, ignoring them in favor of his interpretation of a verbal summary (that he can't review or compare with other sources) puts his advisors in total control. No thanks!

Can he even read the constitution? How can he defend it if not? I need irrefutable proof to move on to his next disqualifying flaw, because to me this one trumps all others.

asynchronice said:

I think this is a tad bit overblown; I have to review agreements, (T&C/MSA/etc.) all the time and sometimes the wording is INTENTIONALLY vague and broad, and sometimes legal meanings of words and phrases are not the common definitions. It's why you have legal counsel.

I'm no fan of Trump, by any stretch, but a 70-year old dude who doesn't like to read fine print isn't terribly surprising to me.

Lest We Forget: The Big Lie Behind the Rise of Trump

Drachen_Jager says...

Whoo, a lot to unpack here.

Trump is an "it" now? Are you admitting he's some sort of androgynous alien, or a robot?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_two-dollar_bill
I presume you meant that literally about the birth certificate, right?

What should we "loose" the dogs of war?

I think the very language you choose, the weakness of your arguments, and the stupidity of picking a metaphor which absolutely contradicts the argument you appear to be attempting show us all we need to know. Bob, I'm sorry to say this, but you're not very smart. I know you think you are, frankly Trump thinks he is as well, which is perhaps why you like him.

Stupidity doesn't inherently make you wrong, but in this case you simply don't have any good arguments. Yes, Trump won, but not for any of the reasons you propose. He's not a good businessman, to the point where NO major American bank will even consider giving him a loan (and this has been the case for over a decade). He is, however, a fairly effective con-man and as his first week in office shows, there's no thought, no rationale. He just promised the moon and now it's time to deliver he has no idea how he'll follow through.

America wasn't destroyed by Obama (even though you promised us it would be), but it very well might be by Trump. All one has to do is go through your old posts during the Obama era to see you're basically wrong about everything all the time. The only possible reasons you keep it up are a) your memory is simply too short to encompass things you said years ago, or b) you're just a troll and don't really care that you're wrong.

bobknight33 said:

Utter Bull shit.-- The Liberal Left still don't get it.

Trump won because it is promising jobs and to make America great again.

No one gave a shit that Obama was 1/2 black.
The birth certificate -- fake as a $2bill.

But the left are using these as the reasons for the massive Democrat party loss.

Keep it up -- live in bubble and keep loosing.


I wanted Cruz
But it was between Trump and Clinton. A millionaire crook or a billionaire businessman. And the left blames it on racism and the Russians. Delusional.

After the huge loss the Clinton Foundation is closing it doors. Guess it had no more favors to sell.

Lest We Forget: The Big Lie Behind the Rise of Trump

bobknight33 says...

Utter Bull shit.-- The Liberal Left still don't get it.

Trump won because it is promising jobs and to make America great again.

No one gave a shit that Obama was 1/2 black.
The birth certificate -- fake as a $2bill.

But the left are using these as the reasons for the massive Democrat party loss.

Keep it up -- live in bubble and keep loosing.


I wanted Cruz
But it was between Trump and Clinton. A millionaire crook or a billionaire businessman. And the left blames it on racism and the Russians. Delusional.

After the huge loss the Clinton Foundation is closing it doors. Guess it had no more favors to sell.

I do business.



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