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We're ban happy on the Sift and it sucks (Blog Entry by blankfist)

UsesProzac says...

I don't hate burdturgler. He lied to dag--he can't even read private profile messages without immense trouble and did no fact checking--and told him I was sending him private profile messages when I never did and that got me hobbled. I should dislike him for that and I do a bit. I don't like lying. It's not conducive to anything. I should dislike him for his blatant double standard as it applies to the word nigger. nigger.videosift.com, etc, he says nigger more than anyone I've ever seen on this site. Insulting me on my profile for insulting another person on their profile when he called a Siftquisition against me for that very thing? It's a daisy chain of hypocrisy. I don't rejoice in the fact that he left again because it leaves no recourse or closure. I'm certain he'll come back just to leave again. Volatile people are volatile.

And being female has no bearing on what language or words a person chooses. bareboards2 chose to put herself out there and invite attention. Her vagina has nothing to do with how I dislike her personality. She's manipulative, attention-starved and annoying in her dogged persistence and demands for answers, @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@.

blankfist accused bareboards2 of banning a bunch of people? What? I don't know why that's what you take away from this and if you'd like to, perhaps clarify that statement or at least cite what you're referring to?

>> ^Issykitty:

I wouldn't call blankfist's telling MrFisk to go suck a dick, and calling him a sanctimonious asshole, and calling Netrunner an idiot a "dialogue," especially when blankfist has accused bareboards of having a bunch of people banned when that wasn't the case. Because she is female and doesn't resort to that kind of language, is that why you target her as a punching bag? I really would like to know. Also, Seems just a tad out of line, destructive and pointless. This is me clarifying my fake discard invocation. Honestly, I would if it were my blog. This is a fucking load of shit. I think this is more about how much we all know you hate burdturgler. Can't you just rejoice in the fact that he left again?

We're ban happy on the Sift and it sucks (Blog Entry by blankfist)

Issykitty says...

I wouldn't call blankfist's telling MrFisk to go suck a dick, and calling him a sanctimonious asshole, and calling Netrunner an idiot a "dialogue," especially when blankfist has accused bareboards of having a bunch of people banned when that wasn't the case. Because she is female and doesn't resort to that kind of language, is that why you target her as a punching bag? I really would like to know. Also, Seems just a tad out of line, destructive and pointless. This is me clarifying my fake * discard invocation. Honestly, I would if it were my blog. This is a fucking load of shit. I think this is more about how much we all know you hate burdturgler. Can't you just rejoice in the fact that he left again?

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

bareboards2 says...

I just saw what you wrote to Burd.

I suspect he isn't answering because he has left the site again. I know this for a fact, because he told me.

I can see why he leaves. I certainly feel like leaving quite often -- I am appalled that only a handful of people step up to defend his quite reasonable rage.

I also understand why folks don't step up -- because if you do, you get dumped on with the same ugliness. People come here to have a nice time, watch intelligent and funny videos, and then shy away from deeper involvement because of what happens in the comments sections.

I spent over four years lurking on this site, appalled at the way reasonable people were treated. It took that long for me to get the tough skin that blankie is always going on about.

But I'll tell you, this latest little go round made me want to leave, too.

I don't blame Burd for leaving. Although I wish he would come back and band together with folks who support him and his point of view to actually make change around here.

And yes, it is better than YouTube. So I stay. I hold my nose for certain parts of it and stay for the rest. Because the Rest is stellar.


In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
Ahh up to your old tricks then eh? What happened to "nigger.videosift.com" as your subdomain name? Is that bannable also?

Why is it you flip out about the word nigger but didn't bring out the ban-hammer for what QM said:

"Compared to other racial groups, a disproportionately high percentage of melanin-enhanced Americans engage in criminal behavior, perhaps due to a failed cultural model that rejects the values of education, marriage and respect for just laws."

I'm not saying he wasn't being racist btw, and that's not to say I agree with statements like that; but if you weigh the two examples, QM basically said black culture embraces stupidity, infidelity, and crime. You can argue that BK did the same rolled into the word nigger, but I don't agree with that. If anything what BK did was more flippant and aimed at an impoverished section of society, QM has the entire culture rolled up which is, imho, more offensive. Yet there's no outrage on your part here? No ban hammer brought out. Care to explain?
In reply to this comment by burdturgler:
Oh .. the guy who said no wonder black people are called niggers .. yes .. let's come to his defense. Looking forward to it.

enoch (Member Profile)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Well go make a new one (if you haven't already).

In reply to this comment by enoch:
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
burdturgler had every right to pull out the ban hammer. That statement is disgusting and has no place on this site, let alone this decade. Who still says shit like that? It's 2011 for Cthulhu's sake.

Also, @blankfist, do you really not see the difference between "nigger" and "cracker"? I sense you do, but if not, I'd be more than happy to elaborate. Also, trying to make this into some kind of political argument is beyond lame. Shame on you. You should know better.


well now i just feel like a poopiehead for my comment.

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JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

blankfist says...

Yeah, it's a bit much. I don't agree with racist speech, but we've all got a separate threshold for what's bannable and what's not. That comment wasn't really that bad. It was in poor taste and dumb, but not the worst we'll see on here.

In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
Totally agree with you. I was a little late to the party on this, but just wanted to throw my two cents in.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
>> ^burdturgler:

Oh .. the guy who said no wonder black people are called niggers .. yes .. let's come to his defense. Looking forward to it.


The comment itself isn't terrible enough for a ban, IMO.

dystopianfuturetoday (Member Profile)

enoch says...

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
burdturgler had every right to pull out the ban hammer. That statement is disgusting and has no place on this site, let alone this decade. Who still says shit like that? It's 2011 for Cthulhu's sake.

Also, @blankfist, do you really not see the difference between "nigger" and "cracker"? I sense you do, but if not, I'd be more than happy to elaborate. Also, trying to make this into some kind of political argument is beyond lame. Shame on you. You should know better.


well now i just feel like a poopiehead for my comment.

blankfist (Member Profile)

We're ban happy on the Sift and it sucks (Blog Entry by blankfist)

campionidelmondo says...

>> ^bareboards2:

We white people[...]


Racial generalizations like that are really out of place here! I don't know who the white burdturgler is around here, but I'm sure he is highly offended!

Jokes aside, I don't think bk should be banned for his comment. He didn't judge black people in it, nor did he say it is right to call them by a racial slur. I'm not saying that his statement wasn't motivated by racism, but if you ban him for that statement you'd have to ban every guy who comments "I'd do her" on a video featuring a female, because that would be as sexist as bks statement was racist (IMHO).

In the end I'd rather see bad and semi-offensive comments on this site and see them downvoted than don't see them at all. IMO that would be much more of a characteristic of a great community than outright banning people for voicing their opinion, no matter how flawed their views might be.

We're ban happy on the Sift and it sucks (Blog Entry by blankfist)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Not only was his comment egregious, it was also abominable, atrocious, awful, base, beastly, beneath contempt, conspicuous, contemptible, crass, deplorable, despicable, detestable, dire, disgusting, dreadful, excessive, extreme, fetid, filthy, flagrant, foul, glaring, grievous, gross, hateful, heinous, horrible, horrid, hyperbolic, incontinent, infamous, inordinate, intemperate, intolerable, lamentable, loathsome, lousy, marked, monstrous, nasty, nefarious, noisome, notorious, obnoxious, odious, of mark, offensive, out of bounds, outrageous, pitiable, pitiful, regrettable, reprehensible, repulsive, rotten, sad, scandalous, scurvy, shameful, shocking, shoddy, sordid, terrible, unconscionable, undue, unmitigated, unqualified, unreasonable, vile, villainous, woeful, worthless and wretched. >> ^blankfist:

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
burdturgler had every right to pull out the ban hammer. That statement is disgusting and has no place on this site, let alone this decade. Who still says shit like that? It's 2011 for Cthulhu's sake.
Also, @blankfist, do you really not see the difference between "nigger" and "cracker"? I sense you do, but if not, I'd be more than happy to elaborate. Also, trying to make this into some kind of political argument is beyond lame. Shame on you. You should know better.

Whatever, selfrighteousfuturetoday. What he said wasn't that egregious. And certainly not worth a ban. I stand by that.

We're ban happy on the Sift and it sucks (Blog Entry by blankfist)

bareboards2 says...

It doesn't matter what blankie thinks, dft. It only matters what dag thinks.

The line has been drawn. bobknight33 crosses it again, and he is gone.

Blankie thinks it is all so very okay, and isn't worth a ban, and all is hunky dory, right? And so he says something similar, because there is nothing wrong with what bobk said, in his opinion. What happens next? He'll get a similar warning, right @dag? And he will be banned [edit] if he does it again.

It's okay that he thinks it is fine. He can think what he likes. He just can't say it.

Blankie is like the bad guy in the new X Men movie, don't you think? He gets more power the more energy you throw in his direction.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

burdturgler had every right to pull out the ban hammer. That statement is disgusting and has no place on this site, let alone this decade. Who still says shit like that? It's 2011 for Cthulhu's sake.
Also, @blankfist, do you really not see the difference between "nigger" and "cracker"? I sense you do, but if not, I'd be more than happy to elaborate. Also, trying to make this into some kind of political argument is beyond lame. Shame on you. You should know better.

We're ban happy on the Sift and it sucks (Blog Entry by blankfist)

blankfist says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

burdturgler had every right to pull out the ban hammer. That statement is disgusting and has no place on this site, let alone this decade. Who still says shit like that? It's 2011 for Cthulhu's sake.
Also, @blankfist, do you really not see the difference between "nigger" and "cracker"? I sense you do, but if not, I'd be more than happy to elaborate. Also, trying to make this into some kind of political argument is beyond lame. Shame on you. You should know better.


Whatever, selfrighteousfuturetoday. What he said wasn't that egregious. And certainly not worth a ban. I stand by that.



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