I hope he kills the Baldwin brothers in this movie!

"The other day I saw a film called The Edge, which I regarded as the best thing to come out of Hollywood since The Silence of the Lambs. Perhaps not coincidentally, this flick also starred Anthony Hopkins. In one scene, Hopkins and his co-star, Alec Baldwin, seem in an absolutely hopeless situation, lost in the Arctic, stalked by a hungry bear, without weapons, seemingly doomed. Baldwin collapses, and Hopkins has a magnificent monologue, talking Baldwin out of his despair. The speech runs, roughly, like this: "Did you know you can make fire out of ice? You can, you know. Fire out of ice. Think about it. Fire out of ice. Think. Think."

This riddle has both a pragmatic and symbolic (alchemical) answer. The pragmatic answer you can find in the film, explicitly; and it might prove useful if you ever get lost in the north woods; and the alchemical, or Zen Buddhist, answer is also in the film, implicitly, and only perceptible to those who understand the dense character Hopkins plays in the story. It might prove useful whenever despair seems to overwhelm you. So, to those who at the end of this book still can't understand or sympathize with my Nietzschean yea-saying, I quote again: "Fire out of ice. Think. Think."

Who was that Prometheus guy and why did he give us fire in the first place?"

~Robert Anton Wilson

"I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. "
-James Baldwin

“The difference between treason and patriotism is only a matter of dates.”
- Alexandre Dumas

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell

Snowden, like Manning before him, spoke truth to power. In a difficult situation, he saw something that was wrong and took the incredibly brave decision to do something about it, even at the cost of his life as he knew it.

If you found out something you knew to be immoral (and on a massive scale), would you have the bravery to follow his example? When it meant probably never seeing your friends and family again?

I suspect history will ultimately come to see him as more a patriot than a traitor.

You -do- know that Baldwin got fired too...right? Let's talk about two faced and hypocritical. The difference is that liberals didn't get all up in arms and try to say the network was in the wrong, or that his firing was a conservative plot.

In fact, neither instance was about beliefs. They were both about a company's right to remove representatives from the products they sell, if they believe those representatives would damage their brand. True with both men (and Martin Bashir). Case closed.

But I really do enjoy the Christian need to feel persecuted. It's cheap entertainment, so thanks for the chuckles @highdileeho

Why is it that this guy gets hung by his toes. But when Alec Baldwin calls someone a "fucking cocksucking faggot" and a long list of other unrelated homophobic slurs, no one bats an eye.

All reality TV shows have been doctored to make for more interesting TV since its inception with The Real World, the so-called point of this whole video is mute. Anyone with half a brain cell knows this video isn't about Duck Dynasty being fake, or about the discrimination of opressed people.

Alec Baldwin is making millions doing far worse on a monthly basis. Remember when he called his 12 year old daughter and verbal and mentally abused her? Or when he called a reporter a fat queen. Or another incident where he threathens to shove his foot up someone's faggot ass. No one tries to ruin his career over any of the horrible disgusting things Alec has said or done, but this bearded redneck happens to quote bible scriptures. That's what all this fabricated hate is really all about.

Most of the 'outraged' people don't give a shit about gay people, they just want to see the religious wingnuts get taken down a peg so they can wave their fedora emblazoned atheism flag. They won't come right out and say it because it would make them selfish assholes riding the coat-tails of people who are actually being abused and discriminated against. No I'm not religious, but I can smell bullshit a mile away, and this whole thing reeks. Were's this assholes outrage when it comes to Alec? Ohh He dosen't really give a shit about gay rights, not a peep when he can't pin a christian to the wall; he just cares about religious people doing stupid things.

Don't subjegate the real issue with your atheism agenda, it makes you look disgusting and reprehensible. That attitude is exactly why no one takes our ideology seriously; You think your doing some greater good, but your means are selfish to the very core.

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@blankfist
hah! I had forgotten all about that. No no no.

You said the quote was honest, and that's true. But the difference is Thoreau literally means what he says. His idea of the best kind of government is not having one at all, and that's what he set out to do for a period of his life.

The reason, to clarify, that your ideas coupled with yourself annoy me is that, unlike the honesty in the quote from Thoreau, YOU DON'T REALLY MEAN ANY OF THIS. The reason I come at you so hard is because I genuinely believe you're dishonest.

For example, you flippantly call people statists, meaning that they support a policy system (government) pertaining to society/economics; and while you go on supporting that system through the taxes you pay, you deride others for their support of that system of government.

What are your options besides paying taxes? Well, you actually have a lot:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2011/02/07/eighteen-ways-to-get-tax-free-income/

If you lived in Alaska (no sales tax and no income tax) in a tiny house on a trailer (no property tax), I'd say, 'this guy is living the life.' But you don't.

Just admit that you're trying to work within the system of government that exists and you're using the system to change the system itself, and you're not in favor of not actually having a system of government already.

If you're participating in the system of government we have, you're supporting it.

I'm not sure if this is a joke? In case it isn't.

He's a TV character from 30 Rock played by Alec Baldwin.

Jack, played by Alec Baldwin, was the big conservative on 30 Rock ... great character!

So you'd be cool with a banner that read "There is no God, and those that believe in him are delusional" hanging next to it?>> ^quantumushroom:

It's preposterous that a banner donated by one of the school's graduating glasses--a banner no one is required or coerced to read--is equated with establishing a state-sponsored religion. But then, this is the ACLU hard at work.

I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. ---ACLU founder Roger Baldwin

It's preposterous that a banner donated by one of the school's graduating glasses--a banner no one is required or coerced to read--is equated with establishing a state-sponsored religion. But then, this is the ACLU hard at work.


I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. ---ACLU founder Roger Baldwin

*promote cuz this would make a better Superman movie. Also, Kevin Conroy, Mark Hamill, Adam Baldwin, James Marsters.

Kids these days with the iPhones and the rockem' sockem' robots have forgotten how to use google.

>> ^NetRunner:

It's hard to google for it and not get tons of stuff about Alec Baldwin...

It's hard to google for it and not get tons of stuff about Alec Baldwin, but here's the Bill Moyers blog on it, which includes a link to Paul Krugman's NYT article on it:

http://billmoyers.com/2012/03/28/what-does-walmart-have-to-do-with-trayvon-martin/

>> ^jonny:

You mean housing prices? Yeah, I'm aware that many houses cost more than $260k. The title is a just reference to Glengarry Glen Ross.
>> ^kir_mokum:
you do not live in vancouver.


I was gonna say, USD 260,000 - which is approximately GBP 163,532 - would not buy you much in London, either. My small one-bedroom flat in a not-terribly-nice area of SE London cost me £1500 more than that watch. But now I get the reference I'll let you off.