I'm glad you edited out the f-bomb you originally had in your comment, but either way, calm down. I was making a facetious comment about the fact he is calling on people to clean up their attire and he's sitting on a desk than could use a clean up.

As for "everything he brought up in this", he brought up one issue, baggy pants, and I said I agreed with what he said. So no, his desk wasn't all I thought worth mentioning.
>> ^burdturgler:

Out of everything brought up in this, it's his desk that you thought was worth mentioning?>> ^Skeeve:
I think this is an excellent message, but couldn't he have cleaned up his desk a little bit before being recorded sitting on it?

Thanks for your thoughts, Nordlich . That was a very interesting exploration of the issue.

In reply to this comment by NordlichReiter:
In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Hey Nordlich, that reminds me I wanted to ask you since I know you have a lot of martial arts experience...

In the event of an unavoidable fight, what do you think about striking someone in the neck instead of the skull? The advantages might be 1. less likely to injure your hand or arm and 2. the fight ends more quickly.

What's your take on it?

In reply to this comment by NordlichReiter:
>> ^FancyL:
It seems to me that computers could pretty easily take the job of an umpire by now. It'd be much harder to argue with a computer/robo-ump.


If you do the robo-ump could beat the bloody shit out of you!

I'm assuming the assailant is ambiguous, where a nut shot isn't viable (baggy pants, or whatever). The neck is a good target for shocking the assailant giving the victim enough time to flee, or followup. I'm not a fan of knife hand because of the 5th metacarpal being a small bone but it is effective at striking the arteries*. A closed hammer first is good for causing more blunt damage to the neck it is also good. I think that the closed fist would cause more damage with the amount of force involved, to the throat itself. These are all coming from the side striking the arteries of the neck.

Front on strikes seem to be more fatal. But they are very effective much more so than any of the side strikes, I think. I feel that the force required to cause an assailant to quit is less. An interesting thing about getting hit in the front of the throat is that it feels very disturbing. After getting hit in the throat (the person didn't intend to hit me) it feels like there is a lump inside the throat. It felt like that for 2 days, this was caused by the swelling. It doesn't take a very hard hit to cause that, sensation(citation 2).

I did some quick research on Tracheobronchial Injury (wikipedia) and from the tone of the article it seemed that high impact causes massive trauma. However other sites seem to suggest it would be rather easy to cause massive trauma.

Here's what I really think, and it mirrors the answer given by the guy in the yahoo link. If the assailant is not expecting the throat strike it can be very effective (This kind of strike is the one that you always want, like the unexpected left hook.) It seems that since they aren't expecting it then they are ill prepared to be struck meaning less force can be used, but accuracy is paramount. If they are ready to be struck then, I would assume, that the assailant and victim are already throwing. At which point any hard strike to the neck area will be very effective(citation 3).

I have to agree and say; I really think that any strike to the neck area, especially the anterior neck is going to cause enough damage to make the assailant quit. However it can be lethal, as you probably already know. It seems to me that accuracy is more important than power in this kind of situation, aim small miss small (citation 4).


1. http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1479666X06800909
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysphagia
3. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090531080328AALIIO9
4. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187393/trivia

*If the person using the technique is a long time veteran of Karate Do (traditional) and have done body hardening the technique can be deadly. Then again the person could get lucky, and strike just right.

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Hey Nordlich, that reminds me I wanted to ask you since I know you have a lot of martial arts experience...

In the event of an unavoidable fight, what do you think about striking someone in the neck instead of the skull? The advantages might be 1. less likely to injure your hand or arm and 2. the fight ends more quickly.

What's your take on it?

In reply to this comment by NordlichReiter:
>> ^FancyL:
It seems to me that computers could pretty easily take the job of an umpire by now. It'd be much harder to argue with a computer/robo-ump.


If you do the robo-ump could beat the bloody shit out of you!

I'm assuming the assailant is ambiguous, where a nut shot isn't viable (baggy pants, or whatever). The neck is a good target for shocking the assailant giving the victim enough time to flee, or followup. I'm not a fan of knife hand because of the 5th metacarpal being a small bone but it is effective at striking the arteries*. A closed hammer first is good for causing more blunt damage to the neck it is also good. I think that the closed fist would cause more damage with the amount of force involved, to the throat itself. These are all coming from the side striking the arteries of the neck.

Front on strikes seem to be more fatal. But they are very effective much more so than any of the side strikes, I think. I feel that the force required to cause an assailant to quit is less. An interesting thing about getting hit in the front of the throat is that it feels very disturbing. After getting hit in the throat (the person didn't intend to hit me) it feels like there is a lump inside the throat. It felt like that for 2 days, this was caused by the swelling. It doesn't take a very hard hit to cause that, sensation(citation 2).

I did some quick research on Tracheobronchial Injury (wikipedia) and from the tone of the article it seemed that high impact causes massive trauma. However other sites seem to suggest it would be rather easy to cause massive trauma.

Here's what I really think, and it mirrors the answer given by the guy in the yahoo link. If the assailant is not expecting the throat strike it can be very effective (This kind of strike is the one that you always want, like the unexpected left hook.) It seems that since they aren't expecting it then they are ill prepared to be struck meaning less force can be used, but accuracy is paramount. If they are ready to be struck then, I would assume, that the assailant and victim are already throwing. At which point any hard strike to the neck area will be very effective(citation 3).

I have to agree and say; I really think that any strike to the neck area, especially the anterior neck is going to cause enough damage to make the assailant quit. However it can be lethal, as you probably already know. It seems to me that accuracy is more important than power in this kind of situation, aim small miss small (citation 4).


1. http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1479666X06800909
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysphagia
3. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090531080328AALIIO9
4. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187393/trivia

*If the person using the technique is a long time veteran of Karate Do (traditional) and have done body hardening the technique can be deadly. Then again the person could get lucky, and strike just right.

@burdturgler

I explained to my girlfriend it is required for her to post tits if she wished to continue expressing herself on teh internets, and she refused. She cited womens rights and gender equality blah blah

Also, you're absolutely 100% correct. The niqab is not the problem. Full facial coverings are the problem when engaging the public. If niqab's are determined to be reasonable, and are accommodated as such then I might start going out in full face masks too. I don't much like people and, honestly, I would love to be able to enjoy the same level of anonymity in the real world as I enjoy online.

Again, I'll group yamakas in the same category as earrings and baggie pants. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they're no less an expression of individuality, or lack thereof, then shutter shades. But the niqab, if I didn't know any better, and even if I did know better, looks to hide the identity of a person.

Look, I get it. I'm also worried about the governments plans. I'm worried they'll watch my internet traffic and decide I'm a Ron Paul supporter and then they'll slow my internet down / cause disconnects often.

I'm worried they will hand over too much power to corporations. I'm worried they will show too much preference in tax breaks to religious institutions.

But if tomorrow they enacted a law similar to the "No shoes, no shirt, no service" signs you see sometimes. I'd have no problem with that. It would be optional. Meaning if you walk into my store and refuse to show your face, I can legally refuse to serve you. That seems reasonable to me. "No face, No place."

It's a different issue when it's government services. But the necessity to show your face during exams and while voting stands.

Haha, some black guys that caters to rednecks and rightwing GOP mouthbreathers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGfFSZ2kcRg

He looks to do anything for money. His website is very "white" worded, like a parody, almost like a Borat.

Internet personality “Jiggaboo Jones” of Las Vegas, who gave his real name yesterday as Nipsey Washington, said the Feb. 15 event drew about 250 people, including Filipinos, whites and African-Americans. He would not say where the party was held.....
...
Invitations posted on Facebook labeled the event the “Compton Cook Out” and included a photograph of Washington, a profane, self-styled comic. He said he has appeared at similar house parties in the San Diego area since 2005.

He said some partygoers at the recent event smeared black makeup on their faces and ate watermelon. Others donned baggy pants and gold-colored jewelry as part of a “ghetto” theme.

^ 2010 mac world, baggy cloths

Tight shot, but showing some girth

A head shot

Of note, he is of "average" size for a big guy, but he scales horizontal a lot.

Yep, now he's 3 years fatter....

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
pic is from 2007, welcome to 2010
>> ^bmacs27:
http://www.outofsightmedia.com/IMAGES/Caught-Today/0705
-May-2007/070522_Kevin_Smith.jpg
Doesn't look that fat here. He likes to wear baggy clothes. Further, the picture you showed was the first hit not for "Kevin Smith", but for "Kevin Smith fat." Honestly, when I look at all the pictures, the one you presented is the outlier.

pic is from 2007, welcome to 2010

>> ^bmacs27:
http://www.outofsightmedia.com/IMAGES/Caught-Today/0705
-May-2007/070522_Kevin_Smith.jpg
Doesn't look that fat here. He likes to wear baggy clothes. Further, the picture you showed was the first hit not for "Kevin Smith", but for "Kevin Smith fat." Honestly, when I look at all the pictures, the one you presented is the outlier.

http://www.outofsightmedia.com/IMAGES/Caught-Today/0705-May-2007/070522_Kevin_Smith.jpg

Doesn't look that fat here. He likes to wear baggy clothes. Further, the picture you showed was the first hit not for "Kevin Smith", but for "Kevin Smith fat." Honestly, when I look at all the pictures, the one you presented is the outlier.

This guy was a Civil Rights activist back in the day. This is his "musical comment" on today's fashion styles (Big baggy pants, sideways hat, mouth full of gold teeth, etc.) Damn funny if you ask me.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'cows, guns, funny, scary, three dead trolls in a baggie' to 'cows, guns, funny, scary, Dana Lyons' - edited by gwiz665

Tags for this video have been changed from 'cows, guns, funny, scary' to 'cows, guns, funny, scary, three dead trolls in a baggie' - edited by gwiz665

Band is called Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. *crazy canucks.

Ryj... RYJ! Give me the pipe... NOW... and the baggie/vial I see you hiding with it.

Shoot them and get it over with. Damn gangs and their baggy clothes.