>> ^rottenseed:

So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.


I've been doing this same experiment for years. Still inconclusive.

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^rottenseed:
So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.

Well i don't understand exactly what's going on with the separate experiments. I assume the cannabinoid is what you typically get from weed, and the pure THC is the extracted drug from the weed without anything else.
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Maybe you are confused because they tried to dumb down the terminology. They are testing the interaction between two cannabinoids found in Cannabis, THC and cannabidiol. The idea is that new varieties of Cannabis have been selected from higher THC content, and that this throws off the ratio between THC and other canabinoids in the plant. The question is, "does the ratio of THC to other cannabinoids affect the frequency of psychosis in Cannabis users?" They are testing this by giving people either synthetic THC alone, or synthetic THC in conjunction with synthetic cannabidiol.

Their sample size is small, but the results appear to support the prediction that the effects of THC are altered by the presence of an additional cannabinoid that naturally co-occurs in Cannabis.

This appears to be the research they are reporting on:
http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v35/n3/full/npp2009184a.html

I don't see why the marijuana users have their hackles up about this. Wouldn't it make sense to push the breeding community to develop strains with smoother, or a wider variety, of highs, rather than constantly pushing for greater potency? Maybe they are already doing this?

>> ^rottenseed:

So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.


Well i don't understand exactly what's going on with the separate experiments. I assume the cannabinoid is what you typically get from weed, and the pure THC is the extracted drug from the weed without anything else.

And what this tells me is that weed is good fun. Also, i've only ever "tripped" on weed by having FAR FAR FAR too much (alcohol equivalent - an absolute bender, 2 litres of vodka and beers to follow in the space of a few hours). Wasn't too bad, i just stared into space and drifted off a bit, then snapped out of it and got confused as to how long had passed. And laughed so hard i nearly puked.

So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.

I'm relieved this is less abjectly horrifying than his last effort. I want something trippy, but not a bad trip, man.

Proof they have great drugs in Hollywood but sometimes you have a bad trip.

This video would bad trip you on acid.

>> ^lucky760:

whoa.
Where's a sheet of acid when you really need one?

It's like Gimme Gimme Octopus on a bad trip =( lol

>> ^enoch:

nice friends she has there.
"hey..here is a good idea.sally is starting to loop into a bad trip.let's put her in a confined area with crappy music and leave her alone".
great work retards.
here is what i think based on almost no information,but i'll take a swipe anyways.
something happened while this girl was starting to peak.maybe it was intentional by some douchebag or her mind perceived something in the wrong context and it kicked her mind into a loop.(think a scratched cd skipping).
the worst and LAST thing you ever want to do with a friend in that situation is to leave them ALONE with their own mind.
you get that person,as gently and calmly,to another location with different scenery and different sounds.
talk that person down..
no..you are not having a heart attack it is in your head.
no..your face is the same as it was an hour ago and is not peeling off.look in the mirror? see?
mirrors are $$$ btw in this situation but only after you have calmed the person down.they will just trip out on themselves for hours.
a calm voice and sincere compassion can go a long ways in helping someone steer clear,or out of,a bad trip.
there are also times when you are too late and the person is in a full blown psychotic break.
in that case all you can do is stay close,keep watch and many times just hold them and tell them it will be ok,even if they dont recognize you.
my sons are grown and since they are MY sons i hold no illusions that they will not(and already have in some instances) experiment with hallucinagens.my advice has always been the same:
KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE PUTTING IN YOUR BODY.
because by what i have seen evidenced here is that these retards couldn't find there way out of a paper bag with a flame thrower.
they have done their friend a huge disservice by their ignorance.
not the first time i have seen it though.
i kinda feel sorry for that poor girl.
eight hours of the same thing playing over and over and over.
whatever mind-altering perception she could have experienced is toast due to friends being retarded.
fucking ass-wipes,may they lick the balls of a syphillis infected rhinocerous.


My sentiments as well, avoid the loops through proper psycho-navigation-some folks do this naturally, others need the coach-once your are in familiar territory, things are fine.....sometimes! Whoa, ok, not always that predictable....when in doubt, curl up in dark ball....mmmmmmmmmmmmm dark ball!

nice friends she has there.
"hey..here is a good idea.sally is starting to loop into a bad trip.let's put her in a confined area with crappy music and leave her alone".
great work retards.

here is what i think based on almost no information,but i'll take a swipe anyways.
something happened while this girl was starting to peak.maybe it was intentional by some douchebag or her mind perceived something in the wrong context and it kicked her mind into a loop.(think a scratched cd skipping).
the worst and LAST thing you ever want to do with a friend in that situation is to leave them ALONE with their own mind.
you get that person,as gently and calmly,to another location with different scenery and different sounds.
talk that person down..
no..you are not having a heart attack it is in your head.
no..your face is the same as it was an hour ago and is not peeling off.look in the mirror? see?
mirrors are $$$ btw in this situation but only after you have calmed the person down.they will just trip out on themselves for hours.
a calm voice and sincere compassion can go a long ways in helping someone steer clear,or out of,a bad trip.
there are also times when you are too late and the person is in a full blown psychotic break.
in that case all you can do is stay close,keep watch and many times just hold them and tell them it will be ok,even if they dont recognize you.

my sons are grown and since they are MY sons i hold no illusions that they will not(and already have in some instances) experiment with hallucinagens.my advice has always been the same:
KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE PUTTING IN YOUR BODY.
because by what i have seen evidenced here is that these retards couldn't find there way out of a paper bag with a flame thrower.
they have done their friend a huge disservice by their ignorance.
not the first time i have seen it though.
i kinda feel sorry for that poor girl.
eight hours of the same thing playing over and over and over.
whatever mind-altering perception she could have experienced is toast due to friends being retarded.
fucking ass-wipes,may they lick the balls of a syphillis infected rhinocerous.

they'd already sprayed her with water? like she's a cat? she seemed to be handling it pretty well to me for a bad trip...
and that's all I have to say about that.

>> ^rottenseed:
I think the moral of the high every time I've done salvia, isn't something I remember vividly, it's just the feeling that the observations and experiences that aid sentience are only a contrived reality. And not in just philosophical manner, you actually understand this concept.
>> ^rougy:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
I've yet to try this, but I'm very curious. According to this site (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/), which is an interesting compendium of various drug experiences, bad trips are very common with salvia. Seems like the kind of drug you want to experience when your head is in a comfortable, low stress space.
I won't be doing this anytime soon.

I can't remember if you're one of VideoSift's fellow former "psychonaughts" but I'll tell you, salvia is nothing like weed, shrooms, or acid.
It hits really fast and it's very disorienting. You don't really learn anything from it, either, and I always learned a little something from the other stuff.



No argument.

I think I'm more sensitive and observant than most, but for me, there's nothing in the land of salvia that will guide me to a greater understanding.

Every time I've done it, whether it's the 5x or the 20x I once survived (joke/not joke) it feels like something is screwing the back side of my head off, and I feel like I'm being watched, and the world around me melts into a scatological dreamscape of absurdity and meaninglessness. No music, no art, no understanding, no insights.

I can't say the same for weed, shrooms, or acid.

I think the moral of the high every time I've done salvia, isn't something I remember vividly, it's just the feeling that the observations and experiences that aid sentience are only a contrived reality. And not in just philosophical manner, you actually understand this concept.
>> ^rougy:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
I've yet to try this, but I'm very curious. According to this site (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/), which is an interesting compendium of various drug experiences, bad trips are very common with salvia. Seems like the kind of drug you want to experience when your head is in a comfortable, low stress space.
I won't be doing this anytime soon.

I can't remember if you're one of VideoSift's fellow former "psychonaughts" but I'll tell you, salvia is nothing like weed, shrooms, or acid.
It hits really fast and it's very disorienting. You don't really learn anything from it, either, and I always learned a little something from the other stuff.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
I've yet to try this, but I'm very curious. According to this site (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/), which is an interesting compendium of various drug experiences, bad trips are very common with salvia. Seems like the kind of drug you want to experience when your head is in a comfortable, low stress space.
I won't be doing this anytime soon.


I can't remember if you're one of VideoSift's fellow former "psychonaughts" but I'll tell you, salvia is nothing like weed, shrooms, or acid.

It hits really fast and it's very disorienting. You don't really learn anything from it, either, and I always learned a little something from the other stuff.

I've yet to try this, but I'm very curious. According to this site (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/), which is an interesting compendium of various drug experiences, bad trips are very common with salvia. Seems like the kind of drug you want to experience when your head is in a comfortable, low stress space.

I won't be doing this anytime soon.