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News crew arrested on air in while covering riots

vil says...

This is not media being targeted by the government.
This is just a badly trained or commanded police force.
If this was the KGB they would be in their underwear in a wood 100 miles away and their equipment (not to mention their passports) would be gone. And they would never dare mention the incident.

This is democracy led by none other than the super intelligent and highly eloquent whatshisname whose solution to this situation is that more people need to be shot ASAP. The only hope is that the current administration is too incompetent to turn this into an outright military coup. But who knows?

Police reform? Gun laws? Stop putting people in jail based on race? Desegregate schools? Nah...

Trigger Happy Cop Attacks Private Investigator

MaxWilder says...

My point is that we have become accustomed to these dangerous escalations because of bad training, so much so that they are getting predictable, not justifiable. Even so, I still think there are elements we can't see about the situation from this single point of view video.

Pardon me for trying to have some nuance. Next time I'll rant about crooked cops and avoid implying that the issue might not always be perfectly clear.

bronx man beaten and arrested on video for no charge

scheherazade says...

How is it not surprising that the problem sees no problem?

You say : "I don't see people getting beat up, or shot, or assaulted, or arrested for no reason"
So, those that were "beat up, or shot, or assaulted, or arrested", were for a good reason, right?

Ever consider that those reasons are often made up?
Ever consider that the stories you heard around the water cooler were simply B.S., and it was in fact the police simply preying on innocent people?



Just what exactly does LE do for me, or anyone?

Do police have super powers and spidey senses?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting raped, and prevent it?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting run over, and prevent it?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting beaten, and prevent it?
Will they magically teleport to someone getting robbed, and prevent it?
The answer is : no.

Police can't actually /help/ anyone.
They can only show up after the fact, and ask you what happened, and if you know who did it.
If you don't know who it was, tough shit. Sucks to be you.
Unlike on TV, there is no in-depth investigation. The most they do is tell you to call them if you remember something else. (This is speaking from experience)

What if you're not around to even tell them anything? Almost every murder committed by an unrelated stranger without witnesses or video goes unsolved.
Why? Because all police know how to do is ask friends/family where they were, and if everyone has an excuse, police got nothing.

At least when a normal person [that you can identify] harms you, you /can/ call the police, and maybe, just maybe, if they feel like it, they will round them up after the fact.

(They often don't. We've had people dumping trash on our land : police didn't respond. We've had people hunting [strangers shooting guns] on our property : police didn't respond. Brought evidence of a fraud to the police station, with account numbers, names, addresses : we won't investigate. The only time they ever came was to talk with my mother after she reported her credit card number was being used by a stranger - LOL, of all the things, they bother coming for /that/?)

But if the police harm you, you've got nowhere to turn to - but them. And they care more about each other, than some stranger.

Heck, I've been tailgated by a cop, on a multi-lane road, so close his headlights weren't even visible over my trunk. He could have gone around me any time. After miles, when I finally sped up - BAM. Ticket.

I've pulled up to a roadblock by my house, and asked if I could go by. The guy was so incensed that he detained me for hours, and told me I was threatening his life, reckless driving, and not wearing a seatbelt.

I've been threatened by a cop - because I interrupted her chat with her girlfriend to ask for directions around a road they were closing off.

I've been pulled over with gun drawn, for trivial speeding (well below reckless).

Seriously people, every time you get pulled over, you are at risk of getting shot, because someone is trained to be suspicious and paranoid, and they saw something shiny.

Just look at how they behave. Cop shoots his daughter in his own garage, because he thought she was a burglar.
What, too much to ask just to look at the person to see if they're even a burglar? Shoot first ask questions later.

Every year there are multiple cases of police raiding a house and shooting people - only to find out it was the wrong house. What, too much trouble to be a decent human being and just knock first, and ask for whoever they need to come out?

Oh, but that might put them at a greater risk. And we all know that police take MINIMAL risks themselves, and instead risk the lives of the citizens. (Why not approach with gun drawn? At least you're ready to shoot the suspect. And if you accidentally shoot the suspect, oh well, just say they 'attacked'. No biggie. Why take the risk.)
The biggest risk they take, is the one they dream up for when they want to take credit for being the heroes they never were.

Look at the friggin VT shooting. Swarms of cops surrounding a building. Man inside, could be killing more people by the moment... and the cops just camp out and wait for him to kill himself.
Worst part, is if it were my family inside, and I tried to go in and stop the shooter, the police would just shoot me for trying to enter.

(And no, police don't deserve heroic praise. They deserve the _pay_check_ they signed up for. If that's not enough, they should take life more seriously and really think about what it is they're getting into, before they do it. Take responsibility, like an adult should.)

The police are a liability. They're armed. They're selfish. They're paranoid and suspicious. They're jumpy.
IMO, the best thing to do is keep away from them, don't look at them, don't talk to them. Stay away, and stay safe.

Oh yeah, and the police are also immune form the constitution's equal protection clause. "Because interpretation".

Look at the numbers. You are less likely to be arrested or go to jail in NORTH KOREA, than here in the U.S. of A. By a factor of 4 last I checked.
What the heck is going on here?

1 in 18 men is either in jail, on parole, or somewhere in the process of going to jail.
Most of the countries in Europe have smaller populations, than the people that we have 'in the system'. And most of the people we have 'in the system', never even harmed another person. They're just arrested for 'behavior crimes' - simply doing things that are not allowed. This is madness. The system is mad, the police are mad.

You don't end up with videos of a gang of police acting like gangsters, if it's a matter of 'a few bad apples'. They all have to be in the same frame of mind.
If they weren't all of the same frame of mind, one would do something bad, and the others would say "whoa there man, you're out of line".
But instead, they all do it. Because there are no 'bad apples'.
There is 'bad training', and 'bad culture', and it permeates the profession.

And when I say bad, I don't mean that "they are trained to be thugs".
I mean that the police don't see suspects as 'citizens (members of the state) that the police are on the side of'.
Whoever crosses their path is dehumanized. Some kind of "other", that the police need to protect society from. Not realizing that those people /are/ society, and /they/ need protection.
The kind of behavior that I see in these kinds of videos, it's simply treason. Betrayal of the state.

If the laws of this country were written to provide restitution to victims - and there were no laws to simply tell people how to live, and if the police spent their time providing restitution to victims, then I would have nothing but the greatest appreciation for the police.
As it stands, there's very little nobility around this profession. Majority of the job is simply picking on people - sometimes because they did harm, but usually because they mind their own business in an unapproved of way, or for kicks.

-scheherazade

lantern53 said:

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In my 30 yrs of LE experience I don't see people getting beat up, or shot, or assaulted, or arrested for no reason.

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Kanye West - Black Skinhead

newtboy says...

Yo, dumbass, the 300 were Spartan, not Roman or Trojan.
It's interesting to me that people still pay attention to this gay fish and his hobbit woman. What's up with that?
I'll admit some of 'his' music is OK, but I rarely like the lyrics and never his 'singing' or 'rap' (they can't overproduce it enough to make it 'good' to me), and I don't think he writes the music.
As a person, he's just a bad train wreck.

Breaking Bad - Train heist scene

Quboid says...

>> ^shuac:

I never understood what 1sttube was supposed to mean. Like it was "first on television"?
Ick.
What's the process for renaming a channel? Cuz that one needs it. How about, oh I dunno, something crazy like television. Maybe?


I've been on the sift 6 years, but each time I sift a video I have to look at the tool tips for half the channels to see what the heck they are; even then sometimes I don't know.

They are named by people who know the sift inside-out, for people who know the sift inside-out - which is a pretty poor design IMHO.

Breaking Bad - Train heist scene

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

GeeSussFreeK says...

Looks like we a got a new one to ride the wave.
>> ^Stingray:

This thread is an ohmen. Resistance is futile.>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Looks like we have sparked some new interest
>> ^Hastur:
I find your capacity for bad puns re-volting.
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^gwiz665:
Power-ful humor you got going there.
>> ^Payback:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
That's a bad train, your grounded!

Your attempt at humour is shocking.


It's just the way I am wired.

Seriously, watt is wrong with you people?

Sorry, threads like this get me amped.




Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Stingray says...

This thread is an ohmen. Resistance is futile.>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Looks like we have sparked some new interest
>> ^Hastur:
I find your capacity for bad puns re-volting.
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^gwiz665:
Power-ful humor you got going there.
>> ^Payback:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
That's a bad train, your grounded!

Your attempt at humour is shocking.


It's just the way I am wired.

Seriously, watt is wrong with you people?

Sorry, threads like this get me amped.



Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault

Train Has A Crazy Electrical Fault



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