Sorry, but this needs some unnecessary censorship.

I've lived with _____ all my life and have been breeding ______ ____ for about five years now. I can absolutely guarantee the temperament of my _____. Playing with ____ is a great way to teach them where the lines are. Biting is OK, as long as it isn't hard. They can learn where that line is. I can play fight with my big boy Leo (7.5kg Ragdoll) and he mouths me but never hurts me. He never puts his _____ out and it's great fun. You can play with ____, but you do need to teach them where the lines are and be strict about stopping them when they do cross the line. Do this when they're little and they'll be great _____ when they grow up.
Indiscriminate play without teaching is where the problem is but play-fighting with a great big bundle of fluff is great fun and well worth the effort. I just find it a bit more interactive than a toy on a stick.>> ^robbersdog49:


That's better.

>> ^critical_d:
I would recommend not using your hand to play with the kitten. This can reinforce behavior (it's ok to bite fingers) and this will be a problem when they get older and are capable of doing real damage. Try using a feather wand or any of those cat toys that have a string on a stick design. This will still allow you to play interactively with the kitty and the cat will focus on the toy as "prey" and not your hand. A win-win situation for the both of you!
Let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to help.
More info:
http://www.perfectpaws.com/cat_training_and_cat_behavior.html
http://www.squidoo.com/cat-bites
>> ^messenger:
Question for experienced cat owners:
I love playing like this with kittens, especially encouraging them to bite me because I like how it tickles, and I find it cute how ineffectual it is. I've also heard that doing that trains cats to bite people whenever they play, a habit which they retain into adulthood and become those annoying cats that bite your guests. Is that really true, or is it just in the personality of the cat whether they'll bite as an adult?
Thanks!


I've lived with cats all my life and have been breeding pedigree cats for about five years now. I can absolutely guarantee the temperament of my cats. Playing with kittens is a great way to teach them where the lines are. Biting is OK, as long as it isn't hard. They can learn where that line is. I can play fight with my big boy Leo (7.5kg Ragdoll) and he mouths me but never hurts me. He never puts his claws out and it's great fun. You can play with cats, but you do need to teach them where the lines are and be strict about stopping them when they do cross the line. Do this when they're little and they'll be great cats when they grow up.
Indiscriminate play without teaching is where the problem is but play-fighting with a great big bundle of fluff is great fun and well worth the effort. I just find it a bit more interactive than a toy on a stick.

>> ^critical_d:

I would recommend not using your hand to play with the kitten. This can reinforce behavior (it's ok to bite fingers) and this will be a problem when they get older and are capable of doing real damage. Try using a feather wand or any of those cat toys that have a string on a stick design. This will still allow you to play interactively with the kitty and the cat will focus on the toy as "prey" and not your hand. A win-win situation for the both of you!
Let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to help.
More info:
http://www.perfectpaws.com/cat_training_and_cat_behavior.html
http://www.squidoo.com/cat-bites
>> ^messenger:
Question for experienced cat owners:
I love playing like this with kittens, especially encouraging them to bite me because I like how it tickles, and I find it cute how ineffectual it is. I've also heard that doing that trains cats to bite people whenever they play, a habit which they retain into adulthood and become those annoying cats that bite your guests. Is that really true, or is it just in the personality of the cat whether they'll bite as an adult?
Thanks!



I've lived with cats all my life and have been breeding pedigree cats for about five years now. I can absolutely guarantee the temperament of my cats. Playing with kittens is a great way to teach them where the lines are. Biting is OK, as long as it isn't hard. They can learn where that line is. I can play fight with my big boy Leo (7.5kg Ragdoll) and he mouths me but never hurts me. He never puts his claws out and it's great fun. You can play with cats, but you do need to teach them where the lines are and be strict about stopping them when they do cross the line. Do this when they're little and they'll be great cats when they grow up.

Indiscriminate play without teaching is where the problem is but play-fighting with a great big bundle of fluff is great fun and well worth the effort. I just find it a bit more interactive than a toy on a stick.

I would recommend not using your hand to play with the kitten. This can reinforce behavior (it's ok to bite fingers) and this will be a problem when they get older and are capable of doing real damage. Try using a feather wand or any of those cat toys that have a string on a stick design. This will still allow you to play interactively with the kitty and the cat will focus on the toy as "prey" and not your hand. A win-win situation for the both of you!

Let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to help.

More info:

http://www.perfectpaws.com/cat_training_and_cat_behavior.html
http://www.squidoo.com/cat-bites

>> ^messenger:

Question for experienced cat owners:
I love playing like this with kittens, especially encouraging them to bite me because I like how it tickles, and I find it cute how ineffectual it is. I've also heard that doing that trains cats to bite people whenever they play, a habit which they retain into adulthood and become those annoying cats that bite your guests. Is that really true, or is it just in the personality of the cat whether they'll bite as an adult?
Thanks!

>> ^messenger:

Question for experienced cat owners:
I love playing like this with kittens, especially encouraging them to bite me because I like how it tickles, and I find it cute how ineffectual it is. I've also heard that doing that trains cats to bite people whenever they play, a habit which they retain into adulthood and become those annoying cats that bite your guests. Is that really true, or is it just in the personality of the cat whether they'll bite as an adult?
Thanks!


I don't think it has anything to do with it. I have two twin cats, and both are total opposites. One seems to know that claws and teeth hurt, so when I play with her she keeps the claws tucked and doesn't bite hard if it's just my hand. If I dangle a string or some paper in front of her though, she'll shred the crap out of it. The other isn't into playing. If I dangle toys in front of her, she doesn't give a crap, but if I leave a toy mouse on the floor and leave the room, she'll go at it. If I come back in the room and she sees me, she stops playing and acts like nothing was going on.

They both like to sit in my lap. The one that seems to know claws hurt doesn't use her claws when she makes biscuits on my leg, but the other one really digs in and I have to put something on my lap.

>> ^messenger:

Question for experienced cat owners:
I love playing like this with kittens, especially encouraging them to bite me because I like how it tickles, and I find it cute how ineffectual it is. I've also heard that doing that trains cats to bite people whenever they play, a habit which they retain into adulthood and become those annoying cats that bite your guests. Is that really true, or is it just in the personality of the cat whether they'll bite as an adult?
Thanks!


Cat that doesn't bite isn't a cat, as long as it does it play in mind.

Question for experienced cat owners:

I love playing like this with kittens, especially encouraging them to bite me because I like how it tickles, and I find it cute how ineffectual it is. I've also heard that doing that trains cats to bite people whenever they play, a habit which they retain into adulthood and become those annoying cats that bite your guests. Is that really true, or is it just in the personality of the cat whether they'll bite as an adult?

Thanks!

I don't see how you came to that conclusion. I thought the Dad did a pretty good job of letting the girl know that it was her responsibility to clear the plate, and that carrying on wasn't going to get her out of it. I would have done pretty much the same thing in pretty much the same way, except perhaps not quite so well.

Now if he'd given in and cleared the plate for her... well that leads to a bad place.

How would you have managed it differently?
>> ^messenger:

There are ways to raise kids so they'll want to do household work. This is not that. This is encouraging that kid to consider evading tasks to be "winning", and she'll just get more sophisticated and probably carry this resistance to responsibilities into her adulthood, and find ways to avoid responsibilities long after her parents aren't around to tell her what to do.
My comment is not in any way autobiographical.

There are ways to raise kids so they'll want to do household work. This is not that. This is encouraging that kid to consider evading tasks to be "winning", and she'll just get more sophisticated and probably carry this resistance to responsibilities into her adulthood, and find ways to avoid responsibilities long after her parents aren't around to tell her what to do.

My comment is not in any way autobiographical.

>> ^AdrianBlack:

Never understood what people saw in this show.


I didn't either. Then I started watching it again, because it is one of my best friends fav shows (along with Malcolm in the middle). There is a horrible pessimism to the show that I only appreciated in my adulthood. Take it is as the stereotypical plight of a man, family that doesn't respect him, wife that won't stop harassing him, job that is utter shit, a life that longs to end but can't out of some strange biological will to live. Really, the show is kind of brilliant...err wait, I think I might be reading to much in to that

OMG, how can someone that stupid make it to adulthood? Seriously, it's time we took the warning labels off stuff and just let nature take its course.

*Yes, that was shamelessly plagiarised.

>> ^BoneRemake:

I do not want kids because of the liability. Blue shirt could of been killed, he missed that by inches. Kids are too stupid, all I would do is worry.


And yet the vast majority of kids in first world countries - even the badly brought up ones - survive to adulthood. It easy to look at stuff like this and say 'he could easily have been killed' but in reality, it's pretty unlikely. As a parent it would be for you to teach them how to deal with the world. The worst thing you could do is insulate the kid from all danger because then they don't understand that some things really can be dangerous, and they go and do something like this. I would never have gotten on that roundabout because something in the back of my mind would have said 'hang on a minute...'. And that's what parenting is.

Don't get me wrong, the thought of being a parent terrifies me, but I'd like to think any kid of mine would be far too busy in front of a computer to be out doing stupid stuff like this...

Such a nice sound- the paper shuffle at the end of the clip. they must set that mic up strategically. :]

Dont borrow sugar from the neighbors, we have foodstamps...
Dont help the family business, we mustn't disqualify our unemployment..
Dont do yardwork for the oldlady down the street, she can afford lawnservice w/ her gov checks

Increasing this "social safety net" seems to be a tad counter-productive towards the reconstruction of this lack of community Keith talks of. How can we learn and really understand how to share unconditionally, when we are obligated to share through our money. Without so many checks from the gov., this disconnection between ourselves will be forced to mend together.

how can I learn to connect with the "extras" in my life, when they are just being indirectly fed by me.

Kieth says we don't care about each other. But I believe we are setting ourselves up for it. Why not take some physical step to fixing this instead of throwing money at it. Baby steps. -Ofcourse there our some bigger things the social safety net should catch. But overspending can widdle away the little things which make us who we are as a whole. He's right, we grew up sharing and caring in our childhoods. How can we set ourselves to share and care about eachother in our adulthood?

>> ^shinyblurry:

Your problem is you didn't actually do what God told you to do. You were a kid, you didn't understand, fine..Now you're old enough to know. Are you content to lean on the reasoning of a child? You say God reveal yourself to me! What amazing arrogance. Why don't you try doing what God told you to do first? Then ask God to show you He is real.


Wha?? Perhaps you didn't hear me. I was raised Christian. I did what God told me to do. It was upon reaching adulthood that I was able to free myself from the darkness of magical thinking. I didn't realize I was an atheist until I was around 30. My reasoning as a child was to believe what I was told. If I was leaning on the reasoning of a child, I would still be a believer. My reasoning as an adult was to think for myself. That's where religion falls apart.

Furthermore I think it is the height of hypocrisy for you to tell me to do something you didn't do in order to reach your "enlightenment". Or maybe you think you're special. God's elected! Yes I mock. To think that a God who loves all of his children would pick a few and give them personal proof of his existence but leave the others to ask and receive nothing but silence. Yes, I prayed about the doubts I had when I started questioning Christianity. I got no response. Unless you count an ever increasing clarity about the mythical nature of religion.

Enlighten me God! I am here listening! But this guy over here says I have to obey you before I know you're real. What kind of fucked up deal is that? And why does he keep quoting inscrutable scriptural nonsense at me??

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year olds life: "The Lord of the Rings" and "Atlas Shrugged." One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

--Anonymous

One of the best bands of my early to middle young adulthood. Love the Manowar...Ride like the wind, fight proud my son.