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Homeschooling certainly isn't perfect - but then the quality of the teachers in most public schools isn't always shining either.

When we were homeschooling, we found that parents would use other homeschooling parents as "specialist" teachers. One dad, had a love of math and would take the kids for math. One mom was an art major etc etc.

The socialisation thing is always thrown out there - but I think it's crap. Why is throwing 30 kids of the same age into a room supervised by a single adult part of natural socialisation? It's more like Lord of the Flys, with a good chance of bullying and brutality. Traumatic incidents in an environment like this can shut kids' "socialness" down for years into their adulthood.

As humans we've adapted to accept that the status quo is "normal" and the right thing to do - but as the Porgy and Bess devil says ... it ain't necessarily sooo.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

Even with good intentions, homeschooling limits the child. Generally, a home-schooled child will have 1 or 2 "teachers" who will not be trained in teaching methods, nor have expertise in as many areas as a school-full of actual teachers would, if they have any expertise at all.
The child's social interactions will be even more limited than their studies.

So you when you endanger people simply because you can't behave accountably, as long as there's adolescent humor in it, TYT will give you unalloyed plaudits. Adulthood fail.

So you were asking whether our sense of the passage of time differs from childhood to adulthood? We already know humans are notoriously bad at estimates of time. Forward and backward telescoping, for example, are well known psychological phenomena. But aren't you trying to link that to.. something else? Something about dreams ... it all starts to get hazy there.
>> ^kceaton1:

>> ^berticus:
Bleh. This conversation is too waffly for me.

I know the time stuff is wonky, but here is a link that talks about it a little. I know there is more information out there on this as there were some studies that came out about six-ten months ago. Some of that will be in the archived area for www.physorg.com.
If I find the more pertinent data I'll put a link in this post within a few days.

Jesus, how sad, especially because schizophrenia doesn't usually manifest itself until early adulthood. She's not even going to have a stable childhood to look back on as she gets older. And did you notice the bags under her eyes? I'm sure her prognosis is awful. I have a feeling she won't live past age 30.

I'm too cynical. As much as I'd like to appreciate adults letting go of the stressors of said adulthood and letting their inner child free for a bit of fun, the video still strikes me as an advertisement for a large, soulless, profit driven corporation.

But yeah...I'd play on it.

I think there is something wrong with this but the issue is blurred. There's no hard and fast rule about what we allow children to do - we simply trust that parents show good judgement.

Yet many will allow children to imitate adult behaviour when they're not entirely sure of the subtext and it probably does erode their innocence and propels them too quickly into adulthood.

I'm no expert though as I don't even have kids.

Just a thought now; what if these girls were stripping down to their costumes as part of the performance? Too much or just adorable?

@spoco2 ^ - Sometimes thoughts like that give me pause on IVF, etc. also. But hey; when my grandparents or great-grandparents were the "current" generation, a very non-trivial percentage of kids that were born didn't survive into adulthood due to disease, accidents, etc. I figure modern medicine and the march of progress has already destroyed natural selection, so we'll just have to trust it to be able to handle the unintended consequences / fallout of that as well. Either that, or Zombie Apocalypse = nature reboot.

Choggie is no troll. He sure as hell rubbed a lot of people the wrong way but that's their problem more than it is Choggie's. He was also never malicious in any way that I ever witnessed. An asshole then? Sure, but being an asshole ain't no crime last time I checked. We're all adults here, and if you haven't ever learned how to deal with assholes by the time you reach adulthood, then that's once again your problem. There are people on the sift whose crimes are greater than any ever perpetrated by Choggie. If being an offensive, racist and hateful troll are indeed crimes then Quantummushroom should have received the death penalty a long time ago, but he hasn't, nor should he. Choggie is none of those things, but when there was a boundary to test or a line to be crossed he was definitely your man.

We're a weaker community as of yesterday- without a little colour life is a lot less fun. It's not worth getting so worked about people- it's just an isolated little corner of the internet.

And I still haven't tried his Jambalaya.

@ Winstonfield_Pennypacker

Is this what they call a libertarian position?

The problem is that SMALL, LIMITED GOVERNMENT, should you achieve it, puts you in a position where there is a lot to fix and no good reason not to fix it, which brings you back full circle.

Any sane person is for simplification of bureaucracy, but the reality (IMO) is that that can only come from a concerted effort to reach an acceptable, logical standard of social care. Not looking after those who are unable/unwilling to survive/conform does not put you in a better long term position.

A bit less oportunistic trillion dollar invasions and general corruption (read lobbyists) and we could afford to get most people on their feet (read entering adulthood educated and not traumatised) and fight the spiral.

So surely its about what government is up to as much as how big it is?

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

Nothing to do with Rand, of course, but here is a compelling debate between David Horowitz and Michael Albert: http://www.zmag.org/znet/zdebatehorowitz.htm

From Google Video: For further research of the claims made in this video, AstroTheology & Shamanism: Thousands of years ago, in the pre monarchic era, sacred plants and other entheogenic substances highly respected for their ability to bring forth the divine, Yahweh, God, The Great Spirit, etc., by the many cultures who used them.

Often the entire tribe or community would partake in the entheogenic rites and rituals. These rites were often used an initiation into adulthood, for healing, to help guide the community in the decision process, and to bring the direct religious experience to anyone seeking it. In the pre literate world, the knowledge of psychedelic sacraments, as well as fertility rites and astronomical knowledge surrounding the sun, stars, and zodiac, known as astrotheology, were anthropomorphized into a character or a deity; consequently, their stories & practices could easily be passed down for generations. Weather changes over millennia caused environmental changes that altered the availability of foods and plant sacraments.

If a tribe lost its shamanic El-der (El - God), all of the tribe's knowledge of their plant sacraments as well as astronomical knowledge would be lost. The Church’s inquisitions extracted this sacred knowledge from the local Shamans, who were then exterminated.

Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill

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WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.


"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment
of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

* creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
* satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
* augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
* rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."



Get well, my friends. Get well.

Ya, dolphins are one of the few animals that participate in frivolous activities past childhood. Most animals will play as "pups" but then digress from such things in adulthood. It seems that the higher intelligence you are, the more you goof off and make a menace of yourself, kind of funny really

That is terrifying and awesome! I'd be so afraid of those even in my adulthood!

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world.

The other, of course, involves orcs."