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Daily Show: Australian Gun Control = Zero Mass Shootings

scheherazade says...

I think you missed the part about focusing on victims, punishing the guilty, and leaving everyone else alone.

I think you'll find that most people that kill others, are already doing something legally prohibited.
Focus on fixing/dealing-wtih those offending individuals.

I know people just want to "do something"... But leave me, my community, everyone else out of it, please. We didn't do it. Thanks.






side note :
Deadliest school killing in the U.S. was done without a gun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

The alternative to a gun is not merely 'a stick'.
You should read about the lethality of hydrogen sulfide. (Mixing 2 common household cleaners that you probably have right now)
1 breath can hospitalize. The gas commonly kills whoever is exposed, whoever finds them, and 1st responders, and it raises no alarm.
I would /not/ say that's /less/ harm than a gun.
Now think for a second about how much more damage one of those school shooters could have done with a simple super soaker from wal-mart.

Btw, you're already prohibited from owning a gun if you have mental health issues.
Check out ATF form 4473, and the electronic background check (granted some states don't have good records in the check).

Gun control still has 2 flaws.
1) It doesn't get gangsters/criminals to turn in their guns (essentially the entire 'problem population')
2) It puts non-violent people who have prohibited arms in jail - having done no harm.

With 1/3 of a billion people, something extremely rare will seem common if it's constantly reported.
You would live many many many lifetimes before you ever meet someone who knows someone who was shot.
We live in the least violent era of human history.
I feel very safe.

Since you mention an AR15, here's a stat :
In the U.S., more people die each year falling out of bed (~450), than are killed by all rifles combined (including an ar15 with massive 'clip'). The danger isn't as large as people imagine.

-scheherazade

ChaosEngine said:

@harlequinn, you do realise that NZ actually has quite sensible gun laws? You can own semi-auto rifles and so on but to do so you need a firearms licence. This includes not only a police check, but the cops will actually come to your house and check that you have adequate storage provisions for your guns. On top of that

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Shepppard says...

No... This definitely continues the point of "We don't need weapons that are easily concealed and readily available for this exact situation to be available at your local Wal Mart."

In terms of Canadian gun laws, could this still happen? Yes. But only after he's taken not one, but two tests, and a psych exam. Other than that, if he were walking around outside with a gun, it would've been something like a hunting rifle, where she could A) have hid, or B) said "He's carrying a gun!"

Lets go back to the whole "What about if he didn't have a handgun" bit, though. Because, honestly, if he didn't have a handgun, the cops would literally have been there within 2 minutes most likely.

You also make the assumption that even if she had a gun, she wouldn't have gotten shot. That would be true if she had been brandishing it when the guy broke in, but unless it was already in her hands, he already would've had her within the first 10 seconds of being in the house.

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Bernie Sanders tears into Walmart for corporate welfare

shatterdrose says...

*sigh* No, what would happen is exactly what Wal-Mart does . . . They'd threaten to move. They'll strong arm governments, which is what they ALREADY do, warning they'll destroy them if they don't play ball.

For instance, Wally World has 5 stores in 5 small towns. Town A complains they're having to compensate the workers too much, so Wally World just leaves. Wally World has already undercut and destroyed the local economy with their "low prices" and "capitalism" (they are not far from that) so by leaving, they take away the rest of the town.

Now, the other 4 towns get word that Wal-Mart is going to build a Super Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart will pick one town to build in, and close their stores in the other 3. So now they face death, or playing by Wal-Marts rules.

And on top of that, all these workers have no where else to get jobs because Wal-Mart killed off their competition through unfair pricing schemes (by lowering prices below cost and taking a loss knowing their other stores will compensate). So now these workers have no where else to make money . . . except stealing, dealing drugs or turning to prostitution. But you're absolutely right, they should have sought these other choices.

Or maybe they should have gone to school at one of those privatized places . . . or gotten a eduction by the standards that most Republicans think is scientifically creationist "has a whole way of shutting that down" and let's eliminate all Atheists from our history books schools.

So I agree, you're absolutely right there. 100%…..

bobknight33 said:

The point of view that Sanders is taking is that corporations are paying so little that the workers have no choice but to take welfare.

I say that if there was no welfare ( well not as much as there is today) then corporations like Walmart would have to pay more. Otherwise people would not even apply.

For every dollar the government hands out in welfare, the corporations have to give a dollar more to make working for them worthwhile.

Minimum wage is not to be a living wage but an entry level wage where one can better oneself and then one would have standing to ask for a higher wage.

As far as big ass tax breaks for the big corporations I say F to that.

I agree that corps have corrupted government to favor them. Capitalism without morality is we are today.


Capitalism is the best system. We all practice capitalism every day with our purchasing dollars. We look for the best value for the good and services we desire.

Bernie Sanders tears into Walmart for corporate welfare

Sagemind says...

Wow, so many of these people are so far out of touch with reality.
It's not a choice to work at Wall Mart - It's a last resort. If people had other options, they wouldn't be there. Few people chose to live in poverty

And Who cares about the cheap prices that Wal Mart is able to give. It's self serving. The largest employer keeps it's employees poor so they have no choice but to shop at their own store, which in turn just gives their wages back to employers. Sure other people reap the benefits of some cheap stuff, but let's stay real. It's cheap because the quality is often lowered to meet the competitive contracts targeted for manufacturers to be able to be Walmart's choice product. Nothing bought at WalMart lasts more than a year or two, you always end up re-buying it. So where is the cheap affordability now?

And while Wall Mart works hard to choke out the competition so they can raise their prices on certain products, their merchandising does the same thing. They only target certain manufacturers and give then the lion's share of the merchandising space on their shelves. Selection at Wal Mart is Slim. They are great at choosing your brands for you. The companies that play ball with WalMart. I have better selection on items at non department stores. Case in point Groceries. They have great prices on certain grocery items, but I don't have any choice on the brands I'm buying. And sooner or later, I'll still need to go to the grocery store, because WalMart just can't give me what I need to stock my kitchen with the basics. My Wall Mart doesn't even sell large bags of sugar.

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mizila says...

...and imagine all the ants killed with every road and parking lot and Wal-Mart and... calm down people. Ants are pretty resilient. They'll be waging wars for their queens long after they've helped compost the last of our dead.

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Fantastic Toy Commercial For Future Girl Engineers

My_design says...

OK, so everyone can comment all they want about camera cuts, who did what in the commercial, whatever the f#ck you want to say tear this apart, deconstruct it or knock it down. But I'm a sixteen year veteran of the toy industry, and I see potential. I see something here that moves past the crap that Mattel and Hasbro, Jakks Pacific, Spinmaster, New Bright, Jada, MGA and others cram down the throats of kids at places like Wal-Mart, Target and Toys R Us. I'm guilty of being a part of that machine, I admit it. But I'm not necessarily happy about it, and seeing things like this makes me even less happy about it. Especially that I now have a 4 year old daughter. So I truly hope that this thing takes off. I wish them the absolute best of luck, I'm going to be voting regularly for them to get the spot, and I look forward to buying their product.

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JiggaJonson says...

Ever since Facebook became publicly traded, I've used it less and less. Too many of my friends will suddenly like "Wal-Mart" or some other crazy bullshit Ad right in the middle of my feed.

I suppose I already barely use twitter though. Hmmm. What's the fare like on Google+?

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Sagemind says...

It isn't only a profit issue. It's a price point issue.
In retail, there is a set price that people are willing to pay, so the retailers want product to hit those price point plateaus. (Say, $15, $20 and 29.99) The manufacturers then cut corners to meet those price points.

Next time you're shopping, for anything, have a look, they will have virtually the same product at several different price points. The lower price points lack quality but it also works in their favor because when you cheap out, you end up coming back sooner for the better product once the cheap on craps out.

Example. I went to Wal-mart for a garden rake. They had one at $14 and one at $35. so naturally, I picked the cheap one. as I was using it, the tines gut caught on roots and stuff, and got all bent out of shape. I ended up having to go back and get the $35 rake - My rake then ended up costing me $49 total.

Um, so ya, a profit issue in the end, yes, it's just move convoluted than the obvious.

VoodooV said:

let me guess, companies cut corners on the quality to....maximize profits?

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