Neat enough.

I'm probably a freak but in my ripe old age of 38, I feel like my brain hasn't really evolved much beyond what Windows XP offers. I'm sure children weened on game controllers with dual joysticks and a trillion buttons will have brains hardwired to enjoy these operating systems that seem to encourage not actually concentrating on one thing at a time but just watching all the task switching in this video made me physically nauseated.

Could have been the veggie dogs I just ate though.

I guess the "bigger" point I'm trying to make is that it seems like perhaps we've reached the point where the user interface is beginning to mold the way our brains work rather than our brains molding the UI.

>> ^IAmTheBlurr:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Hope is an a positive position of bias. There is no certainty that unknown things will end up satisfying hopes. Bias is irrational. Being agnostic to uncertainty is the logical/reasonable stance to the unknown or unknowable. So hope, the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out for the best, is irrational.

We’re talking about two different things then. You’re talking about the expected outcome of the hopeful events occurrence not matching initial expectation, and I’m talking about the desire for the event to occur regardless of whether or not expectation meets reality.


Almost certainly, then, desire can't be seen as rational. Wanting gravitation to exist some other way, and hoping that it could isn't rational.

Using reason can't always get you to an answer. For example, the famous Buridan's ass example. There is a ass between 2 exact piles of hay. He is hungry, and wishes to eat the hay. Which pile of hay should he choose, more over, which one will he choose? Using only reason, and leaving it to no deus ex machina ( like making a random choice), choose for him. While I do wish to be a man of reason, I have to admit to myself that most times, I am not, and for many questions I will never have an answer.

I think most human choices are emotional rather than rational. We then use post-rationalization to justify our behavior. Why is eating meat any better than eating plants? Well, since we like meat more than veggi, we are quick to find answers to support ourselves. But our justifications leave wanting most times, and would really restrict us to eating nothing composed of biological matter if we fleshed out all of our conclusions to the logical ends. I am just ranting now, sorry. I love morality, rationality, and philosophy so much I hijack things

Somehow it's less funny if kids ruin their health with crappy food... Something inside of me screams: NO! You should be eating veggies and fruit!

Fuck you! Fuckin' hippie!

>> ^spoco2:

Agree with him... as a father of four, I agree with him.
Now... I'm not of the school of 'no tv, no video games, no fast food'... but I am of the school of IN MODERATION!
And any time one of the kids shows signs of being a little dependant on the video games, it's unplugged and put away for a week or more.
I fricken HATE the biscuits (BBQ shapes, pizza shapes, all that sort of thing) which you can just smell as soon as you open a box of them. The ridiculously overpowering smell of flavour enhancer 621, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals.
Our kids love fruit, there's always a bowl, we have 2 plum trees, an apple and a lemon tree and are growing our first crop of veggies in our veggie patch. Our kids always have a selection of raw vegetables with their meals.
When I see parents who always give their kids cordial or soft drink, or... oh this annoys me... if they give them milk they always add flavour to it, so it's strawberry or chocolate milk... ARGH! WATER and Milk are the two drinks our kids get at home.
But yeah, not militant on the TV or games etc, I have great fun sitting down with the kids to watch a movie, or playing a Wii game with them. I had those experiences as a kid, so why shouldn't they? But I also had time limits, as do they.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

How much of the population would u estimate treats their kids like this though?
The sad fact is the major determining factor in who will win the survival war is reproductive rates.
In reply to this comment by spoco2:
Agree with him... as a father of four, I agree with him.
Now... I'm not of the school of 'no tv, no video games, no fast food'... but I am of the school of IN MODERATION!
And any time one of the kids shows signs of being a little dependant on the video games, it's unplugged and put away for a week or more.
I fricken HATE the biscuits (BBQ shapes, pizza shapes, all that sort of thing) which you can just smell as soon as you open a box of them. The ridiculously overpowering smell of flavour enhancer 621, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals.
Our kids love fruit, there's always a bowl, we have 2 plum trees, an apple and a lemon tree and are growing our first crop of veggies in our veggie patch. Our kids always have a selection of raw vegetables with their meals.
When I see parents who always give their kids cordial or soft drink, or... oh this annoys me... if they give them milk they always add flavour to it, so it's strawberry or chocolate milk... ARGH! WATER and Milk are the two drinks our kids get at home.
But yeah, not militant on the TV or games etc, I have great fun sitting down with the kids to watch a movie, or playing a Wii game with them. I had those experiences as a kid, so why shouldn't they? But I also had time limits, as do they.


Oh, absolutely, he's bang on about the vast majority of parents, and it makes me very sad.

Also, I know I do let them watch too much tv and play too much Wii, even though we limit as much as we do... I still feel they need to be using them less. I have a friend who has a couple of young kids, and they have no TV in the house. Those kids are fricken amazing with what they can already do. One is just starting kindergarten and has already read the first two Harry Potter books and is attempting to compose things on her violin. The other hasn't even started kinder and is already writing such that you can actually work out what words they are supposed to be.

Just stunning stuff, and sure, I know that after a few years kids kind of all level out and catch up on those basic reading/writing things, but it's amazing how much further ahead kids can be when those things are really full on nurtured by the parents.

Still, in our house I completely refuse to give them Nintendo DS's... so many of their friends all have them, and they spend so much time on them... ALL the time. Man, it's just wrong. My kids have pestered us for them, but no, no way will they be getting anything like that until they are old enough to buy one for themselves. And they are also never getting TVs or computers in their rooms either.

The eldest of my kids is 7, and friends of his and younger have DS's and TVs/DVD players in their rooms etc. It's just so very, very unnecessary.

If there was only the option of what most kids have today and just cutting off TV/Video games, I'd be on the side of cutting them off entirely.

How much of the population would u estimate treats their kids like this though?

The sad fact is the major determining factor in who will win the survival war is reproductive rates.

In reply to this comment by spoco2:
Agree with him... as a father of four, I agree with him.

Now... I'm not of the school of 'no tv, no video games, no fast food'... but I am of the school of IN MODERATION!

And any time one of the kids shows signs of being a little dependant on the video games, it's unplugged and put away for a week or more.

I fricken HATE the biscuits (BBQ shapes, pizza shapes, all that sort of thing) which you can just smell as soon as you open a box of them. The ridiculously overpowering smell of flavour enhancer 621, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals.

Our kids love fruit, there's always a bowl, we have 2 plum trees, an apple and a lemon tree and are growing our first crop of veggies in our veggie patch. Our kids always have a selection of raw vegetables with their meals.

When I see parents who always give their kids cordial or soft drink, or... oh this annoys me... if they give them milk they always add flavour to it, so it's strawberry or chocolate milk... ARGH! WATER and Milk are the two drinks our kids get at home.

But yeah, not militant on the TV or games etc, I have great fun sitting down with the kids to watch a movie, or playing a Wii game with them. I had those experiences as a kid, so why shouldn't they? But I also had time limits, as do they.

Agree with him... as a father of four, I agree with him.

Now... I'm not of the school of 'no tv, no video games, no fast food'... but I am of the school of IN MODERATION!

And any time one of the kids shows signs of being a little dependant on the video games, it's unplugged and put away for a week or more.

I fricken HATE the biscuits (BBQ shapes, pizza shapes, all that sort of thing) which you can just smell as soon as you open a box of them. The ridiculously overpowering smell of flavour enhancer 621, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals.

Our kids love fruit, there's always a bowl, we have 2 plum trees, an apple and a lemon tree and are growing our first crop of veggies in our veggie patch. Our kids always have a selection of raw vegetables with their meals.

When I see parents who always give their kids cordial or soft drink, or... oh this annoys me... if they give them milk they always add flavour to it, so it's strawberry or chocolate milk... ARGH! WATER and Milk are the two drinks our kids get at home.

But yeah, not militant on the TV or games etc, I have great fun sitting down with the kids to watch a movie, or playing a Wii game with them. I had those experiences as a kid, so why shouldn't they? But I also had time limits, as do they.

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Absolutely friggen awesome, and I applaud them for this in all ways I do have queries:
a) A lot of that wood looked like untreated pine, isn't that going to weather really quickly and fall apart?
b) The number of nails and bolts and things put into that tree... is that going to cause it harm and maybe kill it?
c) Why can't I have enough money to have that much land and to be able to afford that amount in materials. Seriously, I just recently built a sandpit, a veggie patch and a BBQ area, and those cost well and truly enough, the amount of money this project must have cost is impressive.

and

d) Yes, I'm just jealous

omg i didn't even think about herbs!!! that would be amazing to dry and store my own herbs and not have to buy that expensive shit at the grocery store.

yeah so, my family and i are on very limited budget and eat about 75-85% of our food raw and unprocessed (because it's completely awesome). so i'm very interested in ways to get the most out of my produce. also, i might be trail mixes #1 fan and my son is dried fruits #1 fan. like, if there was a competitive eating competition for trail mix, i'd totally compete in that. i eat some sort of trail mix at least once a day. i think we'd use it a lot. unless it was difficult to work or the dried fruits/veggies/herbs tasted bad or didn't consistently come out right.

in your experience was the end result adequate quality? was the process user friendly?

>> ^BoneRemake:

>> ^peggedbea:
i've also been thinking about investing in a dehydrator this year and making my own trail mix out the apples and berries and bananas that are "soon to go bad". has anyone ever used a dehydrator before? what do you think?

They are worth the money, IF you use them. If you only plan to make a couple batches of trail mix, then it will not be worth the money spent, If you are asking for a comparison of models I cannot help you, I am only giving personal experience, and that is using it for as you said " using up degrading fruit" but it is also a preservative means, honestly , if you can find a use for it, then they are worth the 60 or so dollars spent, but if it is just for a couple novelty dried fruit trail mix expenditures, then no, it is not worth the money.
They are excellent for storing over produced fruit/vegetables from warm months, herbs especially, you just have to have a means to make it worth the money spent, and usually with herbs, within two seasons you can justify it easily.

my kids and i eat a mostly raw diet. i'm also insanely busy and i don't have a lot of time for food prep during the week. and honestly after work and school and the kids stuff, i often dont even feel like putting a lot of work into dinner.

i also noticed i was throwing out an exorbitant amount of fruits and veggies every week because we just didnt get around to eating them all.

this is something excellent we've started doing, that makes our diets healthier and saves a ton of time and money.

every saturday we go to the farmers market and stock up on our produce and raw nuts and seeds etc. then we spend sunday chopping all our veggies and fruits. we portion out what we think we will eat for the week and put them into small tupperware containers. now all i have to do at dinner time is (or when the kids want a snack) is open a few tupperware containers! done! the nuts and seeds get seperated out into individual serving size baggies (that we recycle week to week) and put into the snack drawer. they keep for a long time and we go through them quickly anyhow. but again, easy access for snacks or to throw on top of our salads.

for the excess fruits and veggies (what we know we wont eat in a week) they get portioned out into individual serving sizes, vacuumed sealed and put in the freezer. frozen grapes and strawberries make excellent snacks, but there are lot of things i just dont think taste good after theyve been frozen and thawed ... so instead of eating them whole i will throw them into my juicer or make a smoothie out of them and it works out perfectly. ill also make sauces and dressings and jams out of my thawed out produce from time to time.

it's healthy, saves me a ton of time and we don't waste even 1/4 as much as we used to.

If i watch this one more time I will somehow merge in my mind jailbait sex crime and veggies

Veggies are good for you!

Cancer is completely misunderstood by most people these days. The general view seems to be that no one has cancer until something "gives" it to them, like a virus giving you a cold. Then, once you have it, there are a few medical interventions that may or may not help.

In reality, everyone has cancer (or at the very least micro-tumors). Whether those tumors are held in check by the immune system or allowed to grow and invade other tissue is largely an effect of the condition of the person's body, which in most cases is very much controlled by that person.

Inflammation drives many of the processes that feed cancer, including the creation of the additional blood vessels around it. Things that significantly increase inflammation include tobacco, alcohol, excess fat (especially abdominal fat), lack of exercise, foods high in omega-6, and any foods that increase insulin levels abruptly (ie- sugar and refined carbs).

So yes, Hitchens' lifestyle is a large part of the problem. Thin people who exercise and eat plenty of vegetables do get cancer, but at much lower rates than those who eat a typical western diet and don't exercise regularly.

If you want to reduce your personal risk of cancer then don't smoke, don't drink, get lots of omega-3, eat lots of veggies (variety is the most important thing), and get plenty of exercise (length of exercise is more important than the intensity).

Eventually we'll have the medical knowledge to prevent and cure virtually all cancer, but currently you are the only one who can control whether you live long enough to see those advances. You can't currently drop your chances of cancer to 0%, but you can get very close.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

>> ^chilaxe:
Hitchens, as intellectual as he is, basically killed himself. Smoking, drinking, overweight, no exercise, probably terrible diet.
If there were a "next time," he should clean up his act within a rational time frame, and advocate increased science funding above the miniscule current amounts. We'd feel really dumb if we died of a curable disease.
However, there isn't a next time...

Right, because skinny people who exercise, and don't smoke or drink never get cancer.
Give me a fucking break.

Fascinating. Eat certain veggies, get skinnier, and reduce cancer risk. Sounds good to me!