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The Stone Age Tribe on a Banned Island You Can't Visit

newtboy says...

By "just fine" I meant surviving, which for natural animals as groups today is actually doing far better than most.

Is it a bad thing that there are no more stone age tribes? By my estimation, absolutely. I value diversity for many reasons, but mostly as a safety net against the totally unpredictable. For some unfathomable reason, something about being pure stone age might be advantageous.

I 100% agree about the option part, but offering them that option itself destroys their world viewpoint and eventually their civilization, proven time and time again with other tribes.

I honestly don't think there is a "right" answer, any course of action (or inaction) has it's own inherent dilemmas and moral traps. As a probable last example of unadulterated natural humanity, conservation seems to be paramount....but that's just like, my opinion man. ;-)

Edit: maybe I was over influenced by ' The Gods Must Be Crazy'....I thought clearly things were better without that coke bottle.

ChaosEngine said:

"they were doing just fine with stones"

Were they? What was the average life expectancy? How about childbirth mortality rates? Hell, how's their dental health?

Obviously, a bit of iron isn't going to fix those problems, but it might make them more efficient hunters. Maybe their diet has improved because of this?

"Now there aren't any known pure stone age people left at all now"

Is that necessarily a bad thing? We had the stone age, we grew out of it.

I feel like it's easy for us to want to preserve their way of life, but no-one is giving them the option. If presented with a choice, most people wouldn't opt for a neolithic lifestyle. Even the so-called "paleo" adherents aren't really living that way.

I completely get where you are coming from, but part of me also feels like we are keeping humans in a zoo.

I honestly don't know what's the right answer.

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NotJerry says...

This is not actually a "How-To", or from a documentary, heh. It's the dry humor of the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy", or its sequel. I've seen other, similar sifts on the site which are clips from these movies -- presented as "documentary".

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chilaxe says...

"Human genetic diversity is really small, when compared to other animals."

I think those kinds of statements derive from promotion of the unity of humankind ('humans share 99% of the same DNA, so we shouldn't fight wars' etc.) and are thus intended as normative statements, not positive statements. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative )

Some groups of humans have been separated by geographic bottlenecks for a long time, and we have an enormous total population, so there's a pretty large range of diversity.


The geographic history of humankind is fascinating.

The last common human ancestor is commonly implied to be when some tribes left Africa for the Middle East 50k-100k years ago etc., but there are pockets of humans that are outliers in that narrative... the Khoisan people in the Kalahari desert (the folks who talk with a clicking language in the movie the Gods Must be Crazy) are a remnant of an earlier people who lived in Southern Africa before the Bantu expansion of West Africans that swept across much of the continent. There are also human clusters that descend from tribes that left Africa even before the Middle Eastern exit, via Madagascar and the islands that dot the Indian Ocean.

Also, in recent work like the 2009 book the 10,000 Year Explosion, it's becoming clear that a lot of our diversity has arisen in the last 10,000 years, so it's not necessary when pointing to how much diversity we have to go back to ancient migrations 100k years ago.


All of that genetic diversity is somewhat beside the point, though, because in the reprogenetics driven by embryo-selection that's being used now in in-vitro fertilization to filter out disease genes and will see increased usage each decade proportional to our increasing genomic knowledge, instead of parents caring about the uniquenesses of ancient human geographic history, they care about genes that correlate with low rates of addictive behavior, etc.

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