>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^rottenseed:
So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.

Well i don't understand exactly what's going on with the separate experiments. I assume the cannabinoid is what you typically get from weed, and the pure THC is the extracted drug from the weed without anything else.
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Maybe you are confused because they tried to dumb down the terminology. They are testing the interaction between two cannabinoids found in Cannabis, THC and cannabidiol. The idea is that new varieties of Cannabis have been selected from higher THC content, and that this throws off the ratio between THC and other canabinoids in the plant. The question is, "does the ratio of THC to other cannabinoids affect the frequency of psychosis in Cannabis users?" They are testing this by giving people either synthetic THC alone, or synthetic THC in conjunction with synthetic cannabidiol.

Their sample size is small, but the results appear to support the prediction that the effects of THC are altered by the presence of an additional cannabinoid that naturally co-occurs in Cannabis.

This appears to be the research they are reporting on:
http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v35/n3/full/npp2009184a.html

I don't see why the marijuana users have their hackles up about this. Wouldn't it make sense to push the breeding community to develop strains with smoother, or a wider variety, of highs, rather than constantly pushing for greater potency? Maybe they are already doing this?

>> ^smooman:

im curious to hear her laugh sober. I know when im high my laugh is distinctly different (and magnitudes more absurd)


I laugh like i laughed when i was a kid. Times which i miss. I think we could all benefit from laughing like we were kids.

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>> ^rottenseed:

So she gets high twice, has 1 good trip and 1 bad trip, and now they're reached an ultimate conclusion. Wow...science sure is easy.


Well i don't understand exactly what's going on with the separate experiments. I assume the cannabinoid is what you typically get from weed, and the pure THC is the extracted drug from the weed without anything else.

And what this tells me is that weed is good fun. Also, i've only ever "tripped" on weed by having FAR FAR FAR too much (alcohol equivalent - an absolute bender, 2 litres of vodka and beers to follow in the space of a few hours). Wasn't too bad, i just stared into space and drifted off a bit, then snapped out of it and got confused as to how long had passed. And laughed so hard i nearly puked.

Very good point. The researchers are probably doing a very good job, but the media needs to stop sending ignorant non-scientific reporters to do scientific stories. A reporters opinion on a subject is NOT news.

>> ^braindonut:

It's worth noting that she's only talking about HER experience in this piece. She probably isn't the only participant in the study...
It's the BBC that makes this look whole thing look like a joke, not the researchers.

one kid i beat SO bad and in such a violent rage actually RIPPED his bottom lip off.
they literally had to take skin grafts from his asshole to reconstruct his lips.

Maybe it's the edible THC, but this filled my basement with horrified, joyous laughter.

BTW, Downunder tag...was this Australia? Giving bullies the gift of Mad Max.

Why are you kidding? Are seeds really around that much any longer? I haven't seen one in years.

At any rate, you do want to grind what you put in the vape anyway, so seeds will be obvious and you just remove them. My old buyer would buy them back from you if you ever found them, which I never did.

Vaporizers are the way to go. I've used a VaporBrother for almost 10 years now, and couldn't imagine life without it. This is why I always laugh at the anti-legalization argument about how its so harmful to your lungs! Oh no!! Right, because there's only one way to ingest THC?

This is the one I have. Cost me $120 brand new, with 2 year warranty.
http://www.vaporbrothers.com/pages/products/vaporizers.html

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
What happens when you get a seed gets in?

Don't buy shit weed. Problem solved.
Kidding. I don't think it really matters. Probably just bakes it down with everything else.

>> ^BoneRemake:

But THC is just the tip of the iceberg for compounds in cannabis that make you " high" Cbd, Cdb Cbb Thca/thc, hundreds..


I was going to say the same thing. I hate it when they make the claim that THC is the only compound in grass that gets you high. In fact, increasing the potency of marijuana by increasing only the THC leads to more "paranoid" weed. You need the other compounds to mellow it out.

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he would do better to decarboxilate the THC by baking it at 220F for twelve minutes 22 seconds and then eating it.

hour and half later he would of been flying high and laughing at the crack in the walls jokes.

I don't know if it's training or personal experience, but there has been a plethora of police officers, sheriffs, etc that have only been stopped from escalating situations involving my brother by my father or another police officer who is less gung ho to kick it up to 10 on the action meter.

My brother has something that is obviously wrong with his mental state, it was believed it was drug related (marijuana specifically...possibly laced) but after he spent over a month in jail for outbursts in court and during drug testing he was worse. My parents have tried to get him treated but it's remarkably difficult to force an adult into treatment they refuse, all it takes is a no from the patient at any point and the doctor will stop whether they agree or not....he was even released from psychological evaluation holds by different doctors than the ones who placed them (72 hour hold suddenly becomes 4 hours type deal). The police agencies would rather lock him up for months on end than send him to a facility to force treatment on him. That said, this had some situations where the majority of police basically wanted to kick his ass when they got involved and were restrained by my father or another police officer.

One situation was where he snapped for the first time, he wasn't hurting anyone but he did smash a cell phone and lock himself in the house. From the story multiple people called police, my mother, a younger brother, and neighbors. They showed up, he had locked himself in the house. My dad shows up and tells them to wait outside and he'll get him to come out peacefully, they tell my dad to move aside and that they are going to have to kick in the door to "deal with him". At this point my dad tells them "You're not kicking in my damn door, so either you leave or I get him to come out." They attempt to kick in the door anyway, leaving a big black mark down the door from their boots. Basically they were ready to go in and rough him up on the notion that he was inside murdering everyone....even though you could see his figure on the other side of the glass door holding the lock so it couldn't be unlocked.


Second, he was at the courthouse...this would be after he's had the law called on him multiple times for acting irrationally...trying to get someone to make it so my parents could force treatment on him to try to get him thinking more clearly. He's in court for drug possession, he rants at the judge, she let's him go. One out of half a dozen police officers there tells the others that he'll handle it, because the rest of them want to tackle and subdue him thinking he's high on something. They take him over to be drug tested by the judge's orders, he refuses like he does everything else...the one officer who took responsibility for him stopped them from taking him down yet again. He called and got the judge's permission to arrest him for the outbursts and refusal....and they stick him in jail. They attempt to get him a mental evaluation, he's sent to a mental evaluation facility. So my brother lucks out and gets an officer who actually tries to get him the help he needs through the judge where the rest of the officers wanted to tackle him and lock him up. But then they fuck up yet again, send him to be tested for competency but nothing else. So he still has an undiagnosed and untreated mental disorder, but they find him competent because he understands why he is on trial. They gladly gloss over the fact that the only medication he will willing take is marijuana or pill form equivalents of THC called marinol or something like that for cancer patients....which they won't give him...and he's on trial for drug possession. No druggie in their right mind is going to ask to be treated with an illegal substance when that's whats keeping him from being out on the streets where he can get more drugs.

He got put on house arrest after all this (not even for the drug charges because he has never been sentenced on this yet due to all this competency stuff and how slow the court is). He was court ordered to seek treatment and follow doctor's orders....which of course my brother won't take any medication but what he demands. So back into jail he goes. Except this time they stick him in general population...he was there for about 2 days before a couple of guys beat the hell out of him. They dragged him out of bed off a top bunk and initial evaluations were that he'd need surgery to fix his arm, but they've changed their opinion on that since. He won't admit to getting beat up, says he fell. Even though investigators are certain he was beaten.

So he's in medical holding while everyone hopes they finally force treatment on him to get him straightened out. But I suspect they put him on trial for the drug charges untreated/undiagnosed and let him continue to bring suffering upon my parents as they try to get him treated......which the law won't allow them to force treatment on him unless they take guardianship of him etc etc......and they won't help you with that either.

Basically what Im saying is, cops in general aren't the problem. It's just a general inability or disdain for doing anything that doesn't follow procedure. Chances are the guy who was killed in this news story is just as messed up as my brother, and if my father hadn't been there to mitigate the police response or a specific officer hasn't been there in court...my brother could have been killed in a similar fashion. I've tried to talk to him about this crap he thinks, he's just totally irrational and it pisses you off fast trying to talk to him about anything....so if someone thought he was dangerous I could see them progressing to lethal force if he acted even remotely aggressive. It ain't right, but I suspect it's what they are taught or what is expected out of them 99% of the time and if they don't react in that manner and an officers gets hurt..they'd probably be in deeper shit than if they shot the guy. It doesn't make it any better, but it seems like a pretty simplistic view to take. And mental disorders are only going to increased and worsen as the economic problems continue.

If someone is doing both then they are still drunk driving, which can be tested and prosecuted.

If they are under the legal alcohol limit then the effects of the combination will be virtually identical to someone smoking without drinking anything. Any amount of alcohol that would further impair a smoker would be illegal (and stupid) for a driver even without smoking.

It would be nice to have an on-site test for weed intoxication, but I don't think that is enough justification to continue prohibition along with all of its inherent dangers/effects. (so basically, I agree with you)

Edit: I believe there are blood tests that show THC levels, though I'm not sure how accurately they show the level of intoxication at the time of the blood draw. If nothing else, legalization will create more incentive for companies to create such tests.


>> ^bmacs27:

The drunk mofo that just puffed a J before getting into his car. The combo will straight wreck your shit before you know it. It isn't as if legalizing it is going to reduce the instance of people that consume both before driving.
I'm all for legalization, but the guy is right that no reasonable test exists for determining if someone is high while driving. There is no .08 for pot. You can either A) let that be subject to "police judgement," or B) use blood/urine/hair testing which will come back positive for up to a month since your last use. Neither of those seem like appropriate legislation on the matter.

>> ^d3bas3r:
This is a slippery slope, next they will make it legal to grow hemp to make fabric and paper.

Well we've been doing that up here in Canada for awhile. The funny thing is when you run into the fields of the stuff growing, and you see some idiots run up grab an armful throw it into their trunks and hightail it. Let me just give a "Good luck on that. 0.0000% THC content douchebags." If you've never eaten hemp hearts, good stuff. Tastes like bean sprouts, but even better for you. Super high in long fiber and protein.