I find it so bizarre that it went down this way. If the bulk of congressional Rs don't like the idea of having Social Security and Medicare sunset, maybe they should have been vocal in pushing back on Rick Scott's proposal? Their relative silence on that front effectively proved Biden's original point, so to react so strongly to his statement seems silly. But then, the party stopped behaving seriously years ago, opting for culture war nonsense over actual impactful policy.

CDC says the increase in overdose deaths was cut nearly in 1/2 to 15% in 2021 from what it was in 2020, 30% increase.
The CDC numbers do not match yours.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/202205.htm

Also, note using your statistics it went from 54k total deaths to 92k deaths under Trump, and 92k to under 107k under Biden. Also, 1 month of 2021 was Trump….the worst month by FAR….indeed, the first half of the year was still under Trump’s policies, they changed mid summer to Biden’s border policy, and still he cut the increase in half. Wait for 2022 numbers and see, I bet they prove me right and increase rates drop again by near half once the entire year is under Biden border policy.

It’s more pronounced when you target opioids, where in 2019 overdose deaths were under 50k, and 2020 were up to 68.6k, up 19k or 38%…2021 had 80.4K, up 12k or 17%. FYI, 17% is less than 38% increases in overdose deaths. These statistics strongly imply more new fentanyl use under Trump both in total and per year so far….with rates of increase going down under Biden but doubling under Trump. Before Trump, I had hardly heard of fentanyl outside MJ’s death…now it’s as ubiquitous as meth. Yes, there is more now than last year, but the rate of increase is much lower.

Directly on topic, Heroin death rates involving fentanyl plummeted in 2021 from 13.1k to 9.1k, almost 1/3 lower. In 2016 they skyrocket from 13k to 15.5k…up near 20%. Clear evidence that Biden’s drug policies on his worst day are doing better than Trump’s on his best day.

you know I don’t click your links since you posted multiple links to fake sites that were virus hosts, but I found the same data.

As to your assertion that these numbers “ All with fentanyl being the main reason for this upswing. ” that is a total lie. The numbers you list are for ANY substance caused death from drugs AND controlled substances including prescription drugs and include intentional suicides. The numbers for heroin/fentanyl are down. You didn’t, or couldn’t read.

Cut the increases in overdose deaths in half, yep, Joe did that.

Lol….burn? I think you burned yourself, dummy. People who can’t understand statistics shouldn’t try to use them in arguments. I got an A in statistics, how about you?

Your argument is like saying “sure, Joe cut the deficit by 2/3, but the debt still went up to the highest number ever so he’s clearly causing the all of the horrific debt problem, Trump had nothing to do with it.”…just idiotic.

Now, have you had time to prepare to discuss the rightly executed traitor Ashley Babbitt? You’ve had 2 years.

Look at the chart.
Smuggling didn’t double the day Biden’s policies went into place, seizures did. That means way more came in under Trump’s lax enforcement, and more deaths resulted from the tons he (his policies to ignore ports where most came in and focus only on the southern border where a fraction came through) did not seize.

Your suppositions ALWAYS turn out to be wrong, unsurprisingly since they are based on lies and a complete lack of understanding. You might want to stop making guesses, they never work out for you.

QE Quantitative Easing
helicopter $ All those Gov Checks that kept people home.

Gas policy. Biden want to kill the oil industry. Transition to cleaner forms of energy is great but you can't just switch off our dependency of oil.



https://youtu.be/PIbrBk9b1Hg

https://youtu.be/Dtf4Q_qzx44


under Trump we were a net exporter of oil. Now we need to import.
oil companies are reporting record breaking profits. But it follows pandemic-fueled losses.
Biden pissed the Saudis over the assassination of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi so they say no oil for you, Joe..

When the SPR is depleted or stopped being used what do you think will happen to gas prices?

Wow. Ok, we can agree that far about China policies. They went too far, and now too lax.

Well….1/2 off something overpriced by 10x isn’t great, that’s why PE ratio matters. I think 25 is super high, but by today’s standards it’s average. 90+ was insane.

You have blamed him for the economy, as if he didn’t inherit 2020’s remains, but I’m just glad you’re willing to share/spread blame. A good step. Kudos.
Don’t know what QE and helicopter $ is.

Supply chain issues are global. It’s hard to blame anyone for even a majority. IMO they have been getting better slowly from 2020….I’m not in manufacturing though.

Gas policy? Explain please. My understanding is gas/oil production is up under Biden….oil company profits certainly are. Analysis indicates their increased profit margins accounted for over 1/2 the increased prices. I’m glad I have some energy stocks in my portfolio.
Remember, Trump policy was to sell our refining capabilities to the Saudis, who then decreased production and increased prices.

""""Wait….are you suddenly saying severe covid restrictions by China were lifesaving and absolutely the right thing? …and now that they’re lifting expect major disruptions and death? Who is this?"""""""

Communist welding doors shut and shutting down cities -- I dont agree what they have done over and over. They dont have a good vaccine and now all is lifted. My current issue is that this too will leak out and their variant will hit the globe.


Tesla at 300 at 200 is a good price 1/2 off of anything is a good price. Now we see 60 to 70% off and getting better.

This down turn will end and go back up. If not in recession, which I think we are by a slim definition - we will be in Q1 or Q2.


I didn't blame Biden for all of this. This started way before Biden. All the QE and all the helicopter $ Trump and Biden gave out. This is causing supply chain issue and probably see some deflation on some products.

Now the FED trying to pull that $ back out of the market,

Biden gas policies and all the spending does not help and causing inflation on some fronts. I just think that his policies are the straw that broke the camel back.

Elon reversed his free speech stand on Twitter, banning accounts he specifically said were safe, and going farther, banning the people who ran the accounts (like the one tracking his plane using public information) even though they violated no rule or policy.
At the same time, he pulled all fact checking and safety screening, allowing covid disinformation and neo nazis back.

Edit: now he’s attempting to Welch on contractually obligated severance pay he offered thousands to quit their contracts. He’s not only going to be sued into the poor house, his employees are going to sabotage his companies now that it’s clear he’s going to screw them even worse than he already has, will cheat them out of pay, severance, and other contractual obligations. He’s actually so dumb and self centered he thinks just not paying bills is a cost savings method, not criminal theft. That’s what the right does, welch on obligations. It’s going to be sweet when his landlords reposses Twitter, and his ex employees take Tesla as compensation for contract violations.
Tesla is failing now that Elon showed his hand as a petulant child, not a stable genius, not an engineer.

He’s so screwed, he/Twitter has reportedly stopped paying rent on Twitter global offices worldwide among other bills.

He’s really turned out to be a moron. He’s no longer the world’s richest person, but is the biggest loser in history now. Tesla down over 60% ytd and in freefall, and favorability among democrats has dropped from well over 30% to below 10%. Not great to alienate your customer base before becoming profitable as competition ramps up.

This bizarre story was immediately explained in the honest media as being MAGA attack, while lying Con media made up a story about Pelosi’s husband having a fight with his gay lover, and you bought it hook line and sinker again, fool.

Bid surprise, it was absolutely undeniably a politically motivated MAGgot terrorist attack.

But to recap, you came up with a ton of insulting nonsense bullshit to hide your party’s obvious culpability over a terroristic politically motivated elderly attack and spouted it like it bore a resemblance to facts. It did not….again. Your positions never bear even a slight resemblance to facts. Every single detail of your position is bullshit lies….every time. Never once have you accepted responsibility for the horrific actions and policies you support. As usual, you spout insulting lies, then slink away like a cowardly worm to pretend you didn’t say the disgusting lies you just said.

It was a politically motivated terrorist attack by a hard core MAGgot attacking Pelosi over “the big lie” that came directly from Trump, with many more Democrat targets.

Where are the web links YOU were looking at. The fake stories created on that Friday and gone by Monday? They’re gone, hidden in the darkness, just like you, buddy. Never once a “mea culpa, I’m wrong, or I’m sorry” from you despite being intentionally insultingly wrong 99.998% of the time

If only you had a scintilla of honor or sense of self worth….there isn’t a bag of dicks big enough for a piece of lying shit loser like you. Go take a long walk on a short pier if you can’t admit you’re nothing but a sick troll and do better.

as long as the driver has a large-mouth bottle, all american trucks have toilets.*

did read that there was a correlation between bladder cancer & truck drivers. was surmised, that holding your toilet had a part in the troubles. maybe, will have a definitive answer when amazon workers start having the same issues.

also many uti's.

read this reading up on school bathroom policies. a lot of uti's & colon-related problems - kids' tracts lose the ability to feel the urge & end up w/constipation and incontinent issues - in schools w/"hold it or lose recess" rules. (special place in hell, or the backyard, for those enforcers) - so the theory might hold water.

(a long drive for o̶n̶e̶ two puns.)



* "Most of us do carry pee bottles. But you have to stop to utilize them. I don't have enough hands to steer, shift, hold the bottle & direct Little Richard in the right direction all at the same time. Stopping to water the flowers is no longer an option, as it could lead to a sex criminal(sic) charge for indecent exposure."

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.

The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.

Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.

But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

Bwaaaahahaha!

Propaganda? No sir, this is the definition of entrapment being used as a deterrent to voting against only Democrats, Republican counties exempted. Not one bit made up, like your red wave….another red tsunami coming to wipe out your dreams. How’d that work out last time? ROTFLMFAHS!! You sucker.
There’s a reason even Trump started calling fraud last week before voting started, he knows his candidates are major losers, the most insulting incapable mentally defective candidates ever put up for office. They lost you 100% of independents and nearly 25% of republicans, and are already driving democrats to the polls in record numbers for a midterm.

#walkaway is real this cycle….but it’s Republicans walking away by the thousands. I personally know many that, until 2016 voted Republican across the board every election no matter what. They will never vote Republican again after Trump. D’oh!

Edit: And let’s not forget this election happens in Roevember, and Republicans made the stupid decision to ignore the long held rights of the majority and legislate for the tiny minority. It’s going to cost you the under 35 vote, and the real “smaller government, more freedom” Republicans like my family who, had they not already left over Trump, would have left the party over abortion rights.

The party that fucked America is yours, buddy. Over 1/2 of inflation is due to corporate profits going up over 50% in the last 2 years. The other half is from Trump’s policy of printing money when he couldn’t get funding for his personal ego projects, and from spending trillions in 2020 while gdp went to negative 36%!

Statistically every prosecuted voter fraud case this decade has been against Trumpist cultists or Republican candidates, sucker. (DeSantis’s blatant, now determined by the courts to be entrapment notwithstanding). You guys fucked up election integrity, intentionally, because you cannot win fair free elections, and cannot accept your losses because you’re babies.

Tool of the party…..stop with the projection, dummy. No one has been as much of an unthinking dull tool as yourself. Proof? Ashley Babbitt, treasonous anti American that deserved to be shot dead….she destroys at least two of your idiotic party positions just by existing, that’s why you cower, hide like a frightened child from the question. You know your propaganda regurgitation painted you into a corner with your toxic spew.

This idiotic, desperate “democrats want communism” nonsense….you don’t even know what communism is, moron, and you can’t point to a single policy from democrats that supports this idiotic accusation….so I’ll ask…why are Republicans wanting communism? (Your baseless accusation against your enemies means you just admitted YOU want communism fast. Very reminiscent of Republicans calling investment in infrastructure “democracy destroying socialism” then rushing to Biden on their knees, mouths open wide, begging for some of that sweet sweet socialist jizz that’s just so delicious). Yes, I’m rubber, you’re glue, but only because you speak in projection from a place of intentional ignorance, and because it’s painfully obvious to those with brains that every accusation the right makes is an admission….like calling democrats “the party of debauchery” when Republicans get caught jerking it in public to kindergarten children while in their clear view.

Ashley Babbitt, I’m so glad that, by your cowardly silence, you admit your total hypocrisy and now say she deserved to be shot point blank along with every single MAGA terrorist “fucking with police” on Jan 6. and those leading them to it….all the MAGA traitors deserve a bullet in the head says Bob.

The last 3 major recessions were under and 100% due to Republican “leadership”, the last 3 economic booms were under Democratic leadership. Democrats caused the last budget surplus the country will likely ever see, actually paying down the debt until Bush fucked it all up.

Who’s causing downward economic spirals again?

The idea that Republicans are better on the economy is just ignorant belief in propaganda. Consistently the economy does better under democratic leadership and spirals down under Republicans….usually directly because of their policies like in 08 and 2020. Both 100% caused by Republican policies (like banking deregulation or Covid denial), policies opposed by the left.

This has been the case for decades.

Republicans spend like drunken sailors, then cry poverty the instant democrats hold the purse strings.

D’oh!
And again, today California/Newsom announced another new program aimed directly at helping the mentally ill homeless called the community assistance and recovery act (CARe) designed to stabilize them mentally, , get them services, and get them off the streets. Stage one is $63 million to serve 7-12000, with $1.4 billion to train businesses on how to safely employ them once they’re stable, housed, and off street drugs. No new tax required, the advantage of Democratic policies making us the strongest and largest economy in America by far.

What has your legislature done to help the homeless there?

(queue lyric) America! F**K Yeah!

Oh... oh... I mean:

America! Ya F***ked!... by successive right-wing policies that lead to this glorious day, and in so many other ways (letting infrastructure crumbles, deny climate change, permanent tax holiday for the rich, fully supporting the MIC and virtually nothing else)

Unfortunately the republican party seems to excel at convincing a huge percentage of their membership to vote against their best interests. The less educated republican voters you refer to have been manipulated to benefit the 'club' that Beau talks about in the video.

This holds for education, but also for plenty of other subjects, like universal healthcare, taxation, and even foreign military policy.