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Hardball: Joe Solmonese vs. Pat Buchanan on Gay Marriage

volumptuous says...

^ Sorry Shaka, I think its the backward church-folk who made the decision to let their ugly bigotry stand in the way of finding kids loving homes.


btw: Who gives one shit what Pat Buchanan has to say about marriage? Jesus fucking christ!

Hardball: Joe Solmonese vs. Pat Buchanan on Gay Marriage

Lodurr says...

That's kind of a straw man argument. There are all kinds of fertility treatments, and new ones come along all the time, and we're almost at a point where a completely infertile couple could produce a genetic offspring (through surrogates, but genetically theirs). A more valid argument is that since women can produce children simply by going to a sperm bank, why is Pat Buchanan against homosexual women getting married? With sperm easily available, they're even more fertile than a heterosexual couple.

In California, where domestic partnerships by law grant all the same rights as marriages, the gay marriage debate is simply a culture war over a word. Both sides of the argument seem petty to me, one for having couple's rights but wanting a different name for it, and the other for exaggerating the effects of redefining a word.

Oh noes! Obama is really the WORST PRESIDENT EVER!

vairetube says...

thanks QM.

purposely creating racism while pretending to fight it i think makes a circle neatly back to the nest of being a racist.

racist like rush limbaugh, like pat buchanan.

David Icke, now there's a crazy mother fucker I can get behind. He's only against jews-as-reptile-spaceoverlords. Since they're really reptiles I can't be a racist only a specieist haha.

Hehe, alex jones fears waves of thirld world immigrants!

.. and you can bet money he don't mean WHITE people... so what is he really afraid of? I just don't... oh... browns! woops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igG4VJtEi5o

DID YOU KNOW OUR GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR SIGNS TO BE PRINTED IN OTHER LANGUAGES!! THE BROWNS ARE COMING!!

Ron Paul debates Stephen Baldwin on Legalizing Marijuana

StukaFox says...

Ron Paul is like Pat Buchanan: he says one sane thing that makes you think, "Wow, that guy's got it together!", then he says something batshit insane, and makes you think, "..."

That said, this is one of his saner moments.

Siftquisition of Member ietest (Siftquisition by rasch187)

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

joedirt says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Help me out Yehoshua.
What are Israel's long term goals here? Do they think that if they can kill every member of Hamas that all of their troubles will go away?


Nope, they just want to kill anyone who has or will ever vote for a group like Hamas.

But the real answer is much more Ockham's.. The long term goal is really just the ruling party's short term goal of getting re-elected. They looked foolish and got their arse handed to them, so now they are showing they can be tough against Arabs, even if they causing long term problems.

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

Trancecoach says...

Bush's diplomatic ineptitude in dealing with Palestine has created the conditions for Hamas to come to power. They are a terrorist faction and Israel needs to defend themselves. I hate to pin yet another failure on Bush -- with such a disastrous laundry list of FAILURES connected to him as it is -- but the fact of the matter is, the U.S. serves a diplomatic role for Israel in the Middle East and Bush's staunch pro-Israel / anti-Palestine position these past eight years has functioned, primarily, as a yet another example of black-and-white thinking which characterize most of the failures during his administration.

Oh, and Pat Buchanan failed to mention the concentration camp the U.S. maintained with the Japanese during WW II.

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

10768 says...

>> ^joedirt:
Pat Buchanan is probably a little racist, but mostly if you are black and in the US. I can't see anything he said here that is anti-Jew and I love how you have zero defending this absurd behavior by the Israelis.

Here you go Dirt, do your homework. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan#Accusations_of_Anti-Semitism
assuming this wasn't a plant by the "Zionist Occupied Government", it may shed some light on your new hero.

And Wtf - It's OK if he's only "a little racist", and just hates blacks? Strange bedfellows you have Dirt.

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

joedirt says...

LOL.. I don't think anyone has ever made it faster to ignore lists, and that includes a lot of people. This harvey guy keeps making ridiculous statements that keep showing how weak this Israeli side really is.

Pat Buchanan is probably a little racist, but mostly if you are black and in the US. I can't see anything he said here that is anti-Jew and I love how you have zero defending this absurd behavior by the Israelis.

Copy and paste this, because it is all your are left with.
- you must be an anti-semite
- it's all Hamas fault
- Palestinians could have ended this and had fabulous lifestyle of luxury
- Hamas hides behind human shields
- israel can't help bombing them, it's for everyone's good
- israel can't help bombing schools, they are hiding in there


Yes, Israel did help create Hamas to undermine the previous political support, but the US also created Bin Laden with money and CIA training. Clearly, it is a country's right to go bomb the hell out of their Frankenstein's monster when it goes all haywire. Who cares what country that happens to be in.

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

raverman says...

Why is it racist to support Palestinians rather than Israel?

Just because they're Jewish doesn't make it racist not to support them.
If anyone is an opposed minority it's the Palestinians.

Why is Pat Buchanan a racist?
...for objecting to the slaughter of hundreds of civilians? or for objecting to it when Israel is doing it?

Would it be OK if Russia was invading Georgia and killing hundreds of civilians who got in the way of trying to kill terrorists?

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

curiousity says...

>> ^mharvey42:
>> ^campionidelmondo:
U.S. news networks are a joke. They failed to mention that the UN driver was shot and killed by Israeli soldiers.
Oh and by the way, Clifford May is vice-chair of the Republican Jewish Coalition.

OMG, He's a Jew?!?
Get a rope!
lol
You sound just as racist as Pat Buchanan.


Are you so desperate to make a point? Being a vice-chair of a coalition might show some bias, don't you think?

You are irrationally and fervently set in your ways. Seeing your rash of comments lately makes me think that you are akin to a fundamentalist in the way that you will hold onto your beliefs no matter what facts come out. No matter the context or source, you will latch onto anything that supports your beliefs and dismiss anything that undermines them. Oh yes, everyone acts that way to some degree, but you win a prize.

What prize you ask? You win exclusive access to list that has remained untouched. Yes, you are the first and probably only person to go on it.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

10768 says...

>> ^campionidelmondo:
U.S. news networks are a joke. They failed to mention that the UN driver was shot and killed by Israeli soldiers.
Oh and by the way, Clifford May is vice-chair of the Republican Jewish Coalition.

OMG, He's a Jew?!?
Get a rope!
lol
You sound just as racist as Pat Buchanan.

Even Pat Buchanan makes sense debating the Gaza-massacre!

10768 says...

>> ^honkeytonk73:
Wow.. I usually can't stand Buchanan.. but I am 100% with him this time.


That should be clue for you when you find yourself cheerleader for Pat Buchanan: Maybe your current opinion is seriously off-base.

Listen to Cliff May. He makes sense.

Jack Cafferty Explains Why 3rd Party Has No Chance

SpaceOddity says...

Pat Buchanan ran as an Independent in 2000. Does being Christian somehow mean one is ineligible to run 3rd Party? And guess what, Ron Paul happens to be Christian, as well as conservative.



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