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British Airways safety video - director's cut

StukaFox says...

"In the event we do auger this huge fucker, you can safely forget everything you've just been told as you'll be too busy shitting your pants and watching the passengers in front of you being crushed to paste before your turn inevitably comes a few microseconds later.

Thank you."

Air flight hell. A terrifying 90 min of violent shaking

eric3579 says...

What's up with the pilots announcements? Way to terrify the passengers. Also wonder why they couldn't/didn't shut down the problem engine. What a terrifying experience.

pigeon (Member Profile)

Effective guardrail is effective.

ChaosEngine says...

D'oh!!! You're totally right.

@AeroMechanical, my apologies... I completely failed to see the keyword "drop" in the sentence "In a passenger car that DROP probably have maimed or killed the occupants." (emphasis mine).

In which case, I completely agree. A race car would have a roll cage, but a passenger car would be seriously kerfuckelled.

Let that be a lesson, kids; don't comment on things before your first coffee.

eric3579 said:

If im reading this right you guys are talking about two different things. You about hitting the guardrail and him about actually plunging over the edge.

Effective guardrail is effective.

ChaosEngine says...

edit: I'm an idiot. See @eric3579's comment.

How so? First up, a passenger car wouldn't be travelling nearly as fast (or at least, you'd hope not).

Second, many modern passenger cars have side impact beams and curtain airbags.

You'd probably get injured, but I think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to be "maimed or killed".

And that guardrail is functioning exactly as designed. The connections to the ground are designed to break, but the rail itself acts like a giant rubber band. *engineering

AeroMechanical said:

In a passenger car that drop would probably have maimed or killed the occupants. In a race car they probably would have been alright.

Effective guardrail is effective.

AeroMechanical says...

In a passenger car that drop would probably have maimed or killed the occupants. In a race car they probably would have been alright.

To codriver must have had bad notes. Definitely a second gear turn, not a fourth gear.

This Is How It Feels Chewing 5 Gum

BSR (Member Profile)

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Doctor Forcibly Removed From United Flight For Overbooking

newtboy says...

United totally, 100% disagrees with your assessment. They say they were absolutely wrong and the passenger shares zero responsibility for what happened to him, something that never should have happened and never will again (according to the United President).

Edit: Also totally convinced United did the wrong thing, their shareholders. Ignoring any legal rights, the publicity this gained for them has cost United hundreds of millions in market value.


The guy went to the check in counter to discuss volunteering to fly later, and refused when he was told he would not fly until the next afternoon at best, not in a few hours. That was not acceptable and would cost him money and patients, which he told them. Then he got back on without incident.
Then he was forcibly removed.
Then he got back on again without incident, rambling and bleeding, now diagnosed with a broken nose, missing teeth, and a severe concussion.
And you support the company that had him attacked and concussed and let him back on the plane twice, not the one even United calls "the victim".

Also, why is no one upset that he managed to re-plane twice with no one even noticing?!? That's an insane security failure.

What the world must look like to you when you insist on being on the wrong side on every issue. You really must exist in a living hell.

bobknight33 said:

The guy was removed once and then sneaked back on.
The Airlines were right in doing what they did.

Doctor Forcibly Removed From United Flight For Overbooking

dubious says...

Passengers have many legal rights. For instance they can't be left on the tarmac for over 3 hours. It's not a simple situation like "flying is a privilege". If there is no law that this is violating Congress should clearly pass more protections for airline passengers ASAP.

Furthermore, the "I was just following orders" type defense is pretty poor given certain historical contexts of its use ... people need to use their own judgment of a situation in the moment. The passengers refusal to move should not have gotten to the point of force, it should have gone up the chain, where I would hope a different course of action would have been decided. I know it's difficult in the moment, but clear thinking heads would have realized that.

bobknight33 said:

United Airlines Pilot: "FLYING IS A PRIVILEGE"

The Airlines were right in doing what they do.

Gratefulmom (Member Profile)

Doctor Forcibly Removed From United Flight For Overbooking

transmorpher says...

This c*** of a pilot trying to make it sound as if the 69 year old was a potential security problem. WTF.

Man, what is going on in the USA? It's like everyone with a badge is power tripping. Is there a gas leak from all of the fracking? People seem to go straight to red about the smallest of issues.

What if they "randomly" chose someone that wasn't going to accept being manhandled. Would this have ended with the passenger getting shot?

bobknight33 said:

United Airlines Pilot: "FLYING IS A PRIVILEGE"

The Airlines were right in doing what they do.

Doctor Forcibly Removed From United Flight For Overbooking

bcglorf says...

Truth be told, I don't have a problem with airlines over booking flights. The ONLY condition I would place on it, which I had wrongly thought was already the case, is that they must find volunteers if the flight ends up with too many passengers. Sorry, but if you paid for a ticket and your at the boarding terminal the airline doesn't get to just abandon the contract. They should be required to continue offering larger and larger incentives to volunteer until somebody does. Being able to just boot paying customers for no reason except that the airline screwed up while trying to maximize profit isn't acceptable. Make it volunteer only and the airlines have to balance what people are willing to pay to skip the flight against the profit from overbooking.

Doctor Forcibly Removed From United Flight For Overbooking

transmorpher says...

This is insane! He obviously had a concussion the way he was stumbling around and repeating himself.

So much incompetence - starting with the person that hired the guy who thought it was OK to assault a passenger.

How did the all of the other staff just standby and watch this happen?

My mind is blown.

I hope this poor gentlemen is compensated very well.



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