Good news Bob, in something of an anomaly, you've got an opportunity to read the truth about this incident on foxnews(I know, it's opposite day in the world):

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-mar-a-lago-search-justified

Link is above, but choice quote from FOX themselves follows:


If this were a mere issue of simply recovering unclassified presidential records, though, there likely never would have been a criminal element to this matter. But buried into those boxes were countless properly marked classified documents. Those documents lacked any markings indicating that Trump had ever declassified them. No actual substantiated evidence indicates Mr. Trump ever declassified them. No one viewing those records would have any reason to view them as anything other than properly classified documents.

The government tried to recover the documents peacefully and quietly. They spent one year discussing the matter with Trump’s staff, and 15 boxes were sent back to NARA in February.

After identifying more missing records, the government returned in June with a subpoena and found more boxes of records that should have been returned. Both times, properly marked classified documents – up to and including documents marked as Top Secret and requiring Sensitive Compartmented Information access eligibility – were located within the boxes.

A Trump lawyer swore out an affidavit promising there were no more documents. The government gathered evidence that the Trump lawyer was not being truthful, and on August 8, 2022, a court-authorized search warrant was executed that, sure enough, located several more classified documents.

That is not an abuse of law enforcement processes. That is how the law works.


Now I'm going to repeat the last statement there for emphasis, but even FOX stated it: That is not an abuse of law enforcement processes. That is how the law works.

The texts, released yesterday, proved exactly that.

The Trump SS had credible threats by Jan 4 of an armed attack imminent on Jan 6 and serious specific death threats against Pelosi, Pence, and others that they actually hid from the targets and capitol police for days until 5 hours into the coup.

The SS is corrupted and was part of the failed fascist Trump coup.

Every single one should be fired for cause, no pension, banned from law enforcement for life, and investigated for their part in the coup and dereliction of duty.

No wonder they tried so hard to erase all traces of what they did surrounding the fascist coup….they were involved.

Sweet Zombie Jesus….the secret service emails were recovered and published yesterday, and they prove the secret service was well aware of credible death threats to Pelosi and Pence at the capitol on January 6 by Jan 4 at the latest (posted Dec 31)…and did not share that information with capitol police, Pelosi, or Pence until 5 hours into the coup….after trying to force Pence into Trump’s limo with only Trump’s SS security.

Yes, it’s now undeniable that the SS was absolutely part of the coup, hid their knowledge of the upcoming attack, hid their involvement by erasing all communications, and absolutely didn’t do their job….in fact it seems a hit squad of SS tried to kidnap Pence (and hand him to the crowd for lynching) but he knew Trump’s SS wasn’t going to protect him and he fled from them.

Every bit of information we get makes things so much worse. Now, the entire SS needs to be fired, for cause with no benefits no pension and a ban from working as law enforcement, and an entire new force Hired. Talk about deep state.

Remember, republicans have started to claim the “deep state is going to assassinate Trump”….and every accusation is a confession. The “red deep state”, which is undeniably real unlike the blue “deep state”, just might try another coup, starting with assassinations at the top.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/secret-service-pelosi-threat-rcna43712

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Secret-Service-waited-to-tell-Capitol-Police-of-17380259.php

So….as I write this there’s a police stand-off/shootout happening with a MAGA terrorist in Cincinnati who tried to force his way into the FBI building wielding an ar-15 and a nail gun.

One guess why he’s there, @bobknight33. It’s the same reason both the Trump appointed judge and Trump appointed FBI director have received uncountable death threats and have been doxed….hint: it’s because Trump is a terrorist leader of an anti American terrorist cult.

P.S. hilarious how fast “defund the FBI” and “defund the police” and “prison reform now” became Republican slogans, isn’t it? So much for pretending to be the “law and order” party. You know how to avoid being accosted by law enforcement? Don’t commit treason, and do comply with law enforcement’s orders!! 😂

the whole breaking into to serve a warrant is fraught w/danger and sheer stupidity.

- go into a house, the occupants have the right to gun every intruder down. dead cops when one JW witness call could get the door open and layout scanned?
- how many in the home deserve the death penalty?
- should landlords be held liable too? shoot up the f'n' place! good call officer fife.

seems to be just lazy law enforcement. too fast, too uncertain, too inhumane. until they have inside agents clearing the house for innocents (even a dog) it's a desperate act of fools.


yeah. i know. but after reading how a cop carelessly discharged his weapon into the head of a sleeping child - no crime is worth another crime.

You know that, at CPAC, ULTRA MAGA Republican Congress member Andy Biggs called for defunding the police, the DOJ, FBI, judges, courts, etc…anyone who has helped prosecute anyone for Jan 6 terrorism, any group investigating Trump, or Republican child raping senators….right?
Defund the police has become a far right rally cry now! After all those lies that Biden was going to defund them, and his insistence he planned the exact opposite, now your guys want to defund the police (now that your people are getting arrested and held on high bail, suddenly the disaster out incarceration system seems out of whack, where before Jan 6 any complaint was met with “you know how to avoid that? Don’t do crimes”…suddenly the right sees prison reform as important, and law enforcement as the enemy.

ROTFLMFAHS!!! I love it when a far right plan falls apart.

Who defunded publicly funded mental health facilities? R
Who put billions into fighting gangs? D
Who fights against making it harder for criminals to get guns, harder to track where guns are, and harder for law enforcement to take them? R

You’re again lying, maybe to yourself. Democrats have fought for these issues since I’ve been alive, and Republicans have fought against solving them in any way. Republicans don’t care, and don’t believe in prayer (and can no longer think). Democrats have actual plans to improve if not solve these issues that Republicans block at every single turn.

157 Republican representatives just voted against legal interracial marriage, and all Republican senators are expected to vote against it if they allow it to get to a vote, which they have said they won’t, they intend to just filibuster, killing it.

Lemme guess, it’s because Democrats are racists.

Same vote against same sex marriage.

These are the same people who just voted AGAINST identifying and removing Nazis and violent racist extremists from the military and federal law enforcement.

Would love to hear your spin on this. How will you contort reality to pretend this isn’t blatant support for returning to the racist laws and segregation, the total acceptance of white supremacy and removal of rights for non whites of the 50’s?

Next they’ll be voting to invalidate the 15th amendment on some made up technicality. Hide and watch.

Yep. The secret service is corrupted. No longer a non political organization, it’s become a Trump criminal cult.

After spending a week insisting the story that they had erased text messages surrounding the coup they were involved in was false, they had all the texts never erased, they supplied all those texts they claimed had not illegally been destroyed….all one of them, one single text. Like they’re thumbing their nose at congress, America, and the law.

2 weeks AFTER 2 official requests for the text messages, they went through with a total erasure of months of texts, including those twice subpoenaed, then spent months stonewalling subpoenas (something they should absolutely never even be capable of and IS definitely criminal), and another month recently falsely denying they erased the texts despite being ordered not to. That’s criminal, dereliction of duty, destruction of government property, and defying a federal subpoena. Every single agent should be prosecuted just like Bannon, and face 2 years for those crimes and sentenced to the maximum as corrupt traitors to America, corrupt law enforcement, and insurrectionists.

Time to disband them, and let Biden replace every officer now employed. No pensions, no benefits. They committed felonies as a group. If this isn’t prosecuted, rule of law is also destroyed in America…thanks Trump. Worst, most criminal, deadliest, most disgraced ex president ever.

One more organization totally corrupted by Trump’s touch. Before Trump they were purely a-political and above reproach, now they are purely political and clearly thoroughly corrupt….just like the Supreme Court, no longer trustworthy and thoroughly corrupt.
Thanks Trump.

This does mean any story the committee comes up with can’t be contradicted. They can decide what to say, and the secret service can eat a bag of baby dicks in silence. This is part of why they didn’t force Trump’s secret service agent to testify, he wasn’t trustworthy, was a well known liar, and had been defying subpoenas for his documentation for months. Also, there’s little chance he would show, like the other co-conspirators. They all claimed they can’t wait to testify,then claim they just can’t do it for no valid reasons.



Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up…..

BTW, every single Republican representative just voted against identifying and removing Nazis, white supremacists, and violent extremists from the military and federal law enforcement. I guess because they fear too many of their violent racist fascist voters could lose their jobs and blame them.

Bad parenting today, orange suit tomorrow.

On the bright side, this kid will be clothed on orange, for many years, courtesy of local law enforcement.

Fake media has brainwashed this kid family and will generationally curse them.

Not sure I follow... I'd think a police academy student would wear a uniform while they were taking the course. But when they are graduated, and don't actually have a job in law enforcement, there isn't a reason (besides cosplay) of wearing a uniform and carrying a gun/utility belt.

You absolutely deviate from that.
You never see wrong from Orange people, and rarely from white, but see nothing but wrong from darker skinned people.

You just see white and black and think it’s the same thing as right and wrong.

I don’t judge people by anything but actions….that leaves most people on my shit list, melanin levels have no bearing on that.
Outfit?

Yes, it is hypocritical because, yes, you did back Bundy at the time and were outraged he was shot, even though he took over a park armed, threatened rangers and police, shot his gun, and fled from police before being shot still armed. Hard to handle that with the courts when he’s on the highway shooting.
You supporting him and were angry, saying those cops didn’t need to shoot him, but are cheering on cops shooting an unarmed man running away no longer threatening anyone… 60 times. The difference? One was extremely more dangerous, violent, armed, and white. You only see the other one as the problem. That’s hypocritical.
I see 60 shots as the problem, and don’t believe the police version that he even fired his gun without proof.

Government overreach? Are you talking about Bundy’s other anti government armed action when he stole grazing from public lands and held off law enforcement with an armed violent militia, which you supported? Cheering him on for refusing to pay for using public lands for private profits and using deadly force against law enforcement? I’m talking about when he violently took over a park for months with more armed violent militia….which you also supported.

My life is pretty good. I have empathy for those less fortunate. I know you can’t understand thinking about someone else’s situation, but it used to be considered normal…real conservatives know that.

Lol…I’m not on any other social media at all, and I rarely get my news here. Sucker. Nice try, but I look for actual sources, not nut jobs saying what I want to hear, like Trump who got the election fraud fraud from an anonymous Twitter account.
It’s pretty telling that you think the way to “truth and understanding “ is remove all sources of information. What exactly do your eyes see with your head in that dark hole? Mine are wide open in the sunshine, sunshine. I see not only the “truth”, but also the various attempts at lies, and being (and keeping myself) fairly well educated I can tell the difference, a trait I’m afraid you sorely lack, friend. Thanks so much for the offer, but it’s like a deaf and blind man offering to lead someone with glasses across the freeway.

On the contrary, we’ve been here for you for over a decade, calmly explaining reality as you scream nonsense and fear monger. We will be here tomorrow. Assuage your fear of abandonment and maybe you can begin to think rationally.

Yep…not true at Parkland, wasn’t true here. There were DOZENS of “good guys with guns” milling around outside, and 19 inside, not one even tried to help, some assaulted students, parents, and teachers, but not the shooter.

Edit: 19 officers were inside, on the other side of the door while children were being shot to death for 45 minutes…during which time they heard the screams of children being shot to death, they received multiple calls from inside the classroom explaining that there were multiple dead kids, multiple still living children, and more being shot with every call, yet they did absolutely nothing but wait. They claim today that they decided he was a barricaded suspect and there was no time pressure to stop him despite being able to hear children being murdered just feet away from where they stood with their thumbs up their asses.
It now seems, according to today’s story from police (a story that changes with every telling) even the tactical team from border police was on scene almost 40 minutes before they went in.

*doublepromote *quality debunking of another of the right’s idiotic talking points.

I think 21 officers from that force need to be executed on the spot by grieving parents, with no charges for the shooters, and the rest fired and banned from being even unarmed security guards for life, with prison if they even attempt another job in law enforcement. This was undeniable proof that police aren’t heroes, aren’t there to protect the public, and are in reality just cowardly thugs with guns and authority that don’t step up when needed.