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Lara Logan report on her assault in Egypt

AdrianBlack says...

The only wrong here is what was done to Lara. I don't think what happened to her was her 'fault', nor am I blaming her. I am blaming the crew's lack of common sense.
Voltaire said: "Common sense is not that common." This applies to both sexes.

I am simply saying this situation could have been avoided with more forethought. Which is true for a lot dangerous situations no matter what is between your legs.

Of course in a perfect world she should have been able to walk amongst an excited crowd without issue. However we live in far less than a perfect world. And that should be remembered by everyone that risks their own safety on a daily basis like reporters.
If Lara were a man and this had happened, I would feel the same way.


>> ^Gallowflak:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Delirium" title="member since July 29th, 2009" class="profilelink">Delirium
"This appears to me like the typical reaction to a rape story. They are looking for what the woman victimized has done wrong. I believe that the wrong lies solely with the rapist, in all circumstances."
And I think that this is intolerably idealistic, and there's a cultural fanaticism about never questioning whether or not the rape could have been avoided should the victim have altered their behaviour (in a reasonable way).
Rape is possibly the vilest, most destructive common crime there is, and gang rape is a perfect example of the inalienable barbarism of the human species. Two people that I love have been raped. I know what it does, and I know what the victim has to carry with them through the rest of their life. But in all things, you're taking risks. Part of being intelligent is balancing the risk in whatever it is you're doing.
The wrong does always lie with the rapist or rapists, that's for certain. Questioning whether the circumstances that the woman was in were at all negligent isn't, in my mind, seeking to attribute any blame to the victim, although there are plenty of misogynists who would. But rape is too awful, and too horrific, to allow ourselves to wander around in some fantasy land where cause and effect doesn't operate. People are not to be trusted freely and easily.
These sorts of situations are dangerous for women precisely because of the inherent weakness and grotesquery of man, especially in a mob like this, where responsibility can be diffused so broadly. Add to it that it's an Islamic society, a religion with an associated culture that almost literally belongs in the 9th century.
We can't afford to not be practical.

Lara Logan report on her assault in Egypt

Gallowflak says...

>> ^Mindfuck:

Where can I see the video? I really need it...for educational purposes.
"It's incredible how calmly she tells the story. I don't know how anyone recovers from this."
That's because it's a fake viral story to boost up ratings. Notice, how there are no videos of her getting raped anywhere. No scars either. It's all BS.


Wait, what? WHAT?

Lara Logan report on her assault in Egypt

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Lara Logan report on her assault in Egypt

Deano says...

>> ^AdrianBlack:

My grandmother, who died at the age of 100 in 1989, told me "Since you are a woman and won't be strong enough to defend yourself if someone is deadly serious on their intent - never allow yourself to get into a situation where you could be compromised."
Excellent advice from a sage lady...I wish that Lara would have realized that herself.
My mother is a journalist (obviously never listened to her mother's advice), and I think that reporters easily forget exactly how unsafe they are. They feel a sense of distance from the event, as they aren't participants. The equipment also seems to bring a false sense of protection, and adds to the feeling of detachment.

A very sad story that could have been avoided.


I think maybe you guys are being a tad harsh on her. She knows her job involves taking risks. She had some security but you just never know. These people are always in tight situations. Most times I read about reporters having close scrapes but this was just a terrible attack based on hatred and incitement.

Maybe there is a false sense of security but if this was ever a situation that you thought a crowd would welcome a tv crew, well this was surely it. I guess it says a great deal about Egyptian society.

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Woman Pressures Cheetahs into Accepting Her

gwiz665 says...

These cheetahs raping everybody out here!
>> ^lucky760:

I hope this isn't taken the wrong way because I'm not making light of it nor am I trying to be funny, but this reminds me very much of Lara Logan in Egypt.

Woman Pressures Cheetahs into Accepting Her

shrimpfork (Member Profile)

kronosposeidon says...

Goodbye choggie


In reply to this comment by shrimpfork:
@ LizLizscot, Hey now, no need to blame god exclusively or even the bogus interpretation(s) offered up from the best and worst of devotees of all sects, creeds, religious atheists, etc.
Perhaps it's the modern Persian male and the generations of deficit imprinting?
(in most personal experiences with the same, the stereotype seems to have served adequately)
-Cultures the world over have all risen respectively to their incompetence in demonstrating a healthy social evolution. What can one say ma'am, the world is a pretty sick place thanks to most humans.

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. "
-Jiddu Krishnamurti




In reply to this comment by shrimpfork:
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the possibility that while her cover as a correspondent (guess so) may be without holes, CBS might be using a universally incendiary act allegedly perpetrated by some revolutionary yahoos to produce some new and improved hype in order to rally nation(s) of robots to fall deeper into their somnambulant stupor regarding the mechanisms and intent of world affairs?

Who cares if she's the best-looking teleprompter-reading propagandist on the telly? Hmmm?




In reply to this comment by shrimpfork:
I concur by voting for this video though this fellow regularly abuses his internet status of alternative news source with the kind of lazy-minded titillation reserved for tabloids and entertainment news segments.
Wall Street should be burned to the ground in effigy for future generations.

Reporter Lara Logan sexually assaulted and beaten in Egypt

Gallowflak says...

>> ^LizLizscott:

Dirty Arab Egyptian scum
Where does it say in that foul Koran of yours does it say it is OK to rape women
Muhammad has created a horrible religion and you think Christianity is bad
Both are misogynistic but I think Islam takes the cake.
Its a shame that you have taken your moment in the sun and turned it into a vile and despicable act.
There is no excuse for that behavior.
Now I suppose we must kill Ms. Logan because it is her fault you animals attacked her.
Isn't that what you dopes do "honor killing".
Maybe you will overstep your bounds with your new found military dictatorship
and provoke Israel so the Jews can destroy your country as they did in 67.
Terms such as freedom and democracy are words you can not understand
until you free yourselves from "to serve"


While I understand the intensity of your feelings about this, I think you should check that you're still being rational enough about your position.

Payback (Member Profile)

Reporter Lara Logan sexually assaulted and beaten in Egypt

MarineGunrock says...

Uh, where exactly did Christian influences play a role in that? >> ^Reefie:

>> ^EMPIRE:
yeah... arabic mentality is not exactly the most respectful towards women (surprise, surprise!).

Wasn't always like that so it's not fair to generalise. Take a look at how women used to be treated in Afghanistan, they were worshipped and were easily the equals of men (worth also pointing out that the Koran classes men and women as equals). It's only since the end of the second world war when religions such as Christianity and Islam worked to change the perceived role of women in Afghan society so that the last half a decade has radically altered the standing of women in that country. King Amanullah worked very hard to promote women's empowerment in the early 20th century, but all his work has been undone, and from a historical perspective we only need to look towards the Christian and Taliban influences at work in that country to understand how it all got fucked up.

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Reporter Lara Logan sexually assaulted and beaten in Egypt



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