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To condense this more seriously, Armstrong was the organiser and chief perpetrator of PEDs in cycling.
Given the rules in which he operated he should pay a price. There is also the related legal backlash from various third parties - good luck there Lance.

But I do accept we need to ask if a war on PEDs is any different to the (arguably) failed war on drugs.

People *want* to see cyclists bombing along at speeds ordinary folk can't muster. They want to see Olympic records broken. You either do this by being a naturally outstanding athlete (e.g Bolt, who's on record as happy to chomp down chicken nuggets) or start doping.

It's bothered me a bit that improving yourself in this sense is beyond the pale but having access to the best facilities, coaching and medical staff while others skimp by with very little is somehow acceptable.

I think it's acceptable because it's a nonsense to try to police that. And perhaps it's the same with PEDs.

IIRC there was a British athlete who went on to voice support for PEDs. That was a long time ago and I don't recall the name. A few more today need to start questioning conventional thinking.

To be honest I care less about you than I care about Lance having his jerseys. Think about it *Glare*

Also Jail for Perjury and Fraud, why? We don't put bankers in jail, we don't put war criminals in jail. Why the fuck does everyone get soo upset about athletes cheating but people who cause real problems in our country "Eh whatever." Fuck Everyone!

How do you feel about the part where he sued several people into the ground simply for telling the truth about him?

Fuck Lance Armstrong. He's an egotistical prick and frankly, he should go to jail for perjury and fraud.

I still like Lance Armstrong. Cheating in a sport isn't a big deal to me, especially if it's cheating that maybe 90% of the serious contestants do. Those that don't should be heralded for their ability not to take drugs, but Lance won so fuck'em.

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Well there were drug-free riders but they got the heave ho from the sport thanks to Lance. After that I have no doubt it wasn't worth competing unless you decided to use PEDs.
Also I think it's instructive to read cyclist Nicole Cooke's retirement speech.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/14/nicole-cooke-retirement-statement

Here's an extract;
"Every scandal on the men's side has caused sponsors to leave on the Women's side. And with such thin budgets, the losses have a greater relative impact on what survives. In areas where there was unique female development and growth, such as in Canada, which hosted a major Tour, a World Cup and the World Championships, all geared to supporting their number one rider — Genevieve Jeanson, there has been calamity. Perhaps Jeanson will not be a name familiar to you. She was the Canadian superstar, a national icon. She never tested positive. She missed a drugs test when she beat me and received a meaningless fine as a consequence. She exceeded the 50% Hematocrit level and the authorities acted in line with their legislation and imposed a "health rest" on her."

Holy crap! I totally forgot Lance Henriksen was in Powder.

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