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How To NOT Use A Roundabout

newtboy says...

Nice....but I did notice a number of cars in the video weren't following the rules they were describing!

We got caught out in Iceland on the freeway. We had little opportunity to choose the correct lane to just go straight, and no opportunity to read road markings and direction signs at near freeway speeds. Good thing there's almost no traffic there or we might have caused a wreck.

I think single lane roundabouts are great....but with the unintuitive and nonstandard rules paired with poor average driving skills I don't think multi lane versions belong in America. Freeway roundabouts are just plain nuts.

eric3579 said:

Roundabouts seem to come in many different designs. I assume the key is to have good signage and lane markings. I for one, love me some roundabouts.

Start @1:40

How To NOT Use A Roundabout

newtboy says...

Um....once you are in the middle/center lane, you have to cross the outer lanes to exit in any direction. On the freeway roundabouts, three lanes wide, 95% of all traffic in all lanes went straight through, meaning the middle lane cuts off the outer and center lane cuts off both outer lanes. You seem to suggest everyone should be in the middle lane for that, but that simply cannot be correct. The exits had three lanes, so it makes sense they expect all three lanes might exit....or all three might continue around. I saw both things happening, people on the outer ring not exiting, and people on the inner ring going straight through like it wasn't there. It all seemed incredibly dangerous and a total freeforall.

No, sorry, that's not how I've ever seen one, and absolutely not how they work in Iceland. The lanes do not spiral outwards. All three lanes form a circle. If you keep in your lane, you'll be there forever. You have to cut across outer lanes to exit. You've been on some very different roundabouts it seems.

In Iceland, if you're in the fast/left lane, you enter across the two outer rings to the center ring, then cross both outer rings again to exit. I think the inner ring had right of way, but I'm not sure. (Edit: checked, that's correct) My wife just refused and made me drive.

Spacedog79 said:

Multiple lanes are for going different directions, left to go left, middle to go straight on and right to go right. If people get in the correct lane ahead of time they shouldn't need to cut anyone off.

In the US for example going left you'd be in the left lane, but as your go around the lane you're in will merge right. If you keep in the lane you'll be on the right by the time you get to your turnoff and you won't be in anyone's way.

How To NOT Use A Roundabout

newtboy says...

Hmmmm....in America, and I'm pretty certain Iceland (the only countries I've been in with roundabouts) it's the reverse....the car in the roundabout has the right of way. The yield signs are at every entrance. That works fine on single lane roundabouts.

My big question is, on multiple lane roundabouts like freeways, which lane has the right of way? How does a car in the inner lane exit without just cutting off the outer lanes?

TheFreak said:

Here's the issue I have with roundabouts in America.

Merrka! FUck yeah!

We're full of "me first" individualists. In Sweden I dealt with the giant freeway roundabouts and it works because you yield to people entering the roundabout. Sounds counter intuitive but as long as EVERYONE FUCKING COOPERATES it works.

I deal with a roundabout almost daily and the issue is that when an American gets onto it their instinct is to block people entering. It's the exact same mentality that has someone speed up to block you from changing lanes in front of them on the highway.

The end result is everyone pulls up and has to come to a complete stop while the people on their left get on and try to accelerate hard to prevent the people on their right from entering. Fucking absurd.

To be clear:
You don't yield to people already in the roundabout when you're entering.
You do yield to people entering the roundabout when you're already in it.

How To NOT Use A Roundabout

newtboy says...

They installed a double roundabout freeway exit/entrance here, in Arcata, about 4-5 years ago. The only signs are yield signs. Because it's got two one way freeway exits, two one way freeway entrances, and one through street it's pretty hard to mess up.
Now, the roundabouts ON the freeway in Iceland, three lanes wide, those were incomprehensible.

psycop said:

I'm from the home of the good 'ole roundabout and honestly... I don't get how you are meant to use this thing. Also yes, ours are absolutely plastered with signs and help.

Is this two one way roads, or was it just random chance that all the traffic was going one way? Normally one side of the road would be for return traffic?

Took a wee while, but I found a picture of a normal looking roundabout and even in a country where people use them all the time there are a lot of attempts to tell you how to use it:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/56302000/jpg/_56302665_roundaboutsofwales2012june.jpg

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Lava flows out as Iceland volcano erupts near Reykjavik

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Lava flows out as Iceland volcano erupts near Reykjavik

newtboy says...

As far as I know, the Icelandic people are the only ones in history to successfully redirect a lava flow (excluding Tommy Lee Jones). They got this.

[ In January 1973, Eldfell volcano on the island of Heimaey erupted an ‘a‘ā lava flow. Over the next 5 months, billions of gallons of seawater were pumped through an elaborate network of pipes laid out across the lava to cool the flow and slow its advance toward Heimaey's only harbor, the lifeline of the island and a critical economic resource for the entire country. The fragmental nature of the lava flow's surface allowed the seawater to penetrate deep into the flow and cool the lava near its core, and the advance of the flow was slowed as the flow front thickened dramatically.]

After Ice

The world’s largest organism - Alex Rosenthal

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newtboy says...

Actually, it's an interesting but inefficient way to fund their rescue services that save stupid Americans who go hiking where they don't belong and get stuck.

For years, they couldn't get on SKYTV, the European ESPN. They would film events and send them to SKYTV, never getting a reply. An organizer eventually called to find out why, and SKYTV told them they weren't interested in RC cars....Only to fall out of their seats when it was explained those are full size cars with drivers. At least that's what our host told me when we were in Iceland to see it live.

00Scud00 said:

An amusing, if inefficient way to re-distribute top soil.

Fibre. It’s how we internet now.

newtboy says...

I went in the late 80's. Nicest people I've ever met, with Iceland a very close second.
Both made me feel depressed about how Americans act. By comparison, we are a group of uncivil toddlers.

Edit: my favorite story that exemplifies this was from a hot spring we visited with a dozen concrete pools on a hillside, one emptying into the next. Two groups of kids were playfully throwing pebbles at each other from one pool to the next when one, about 12, stood up and in the most calm voice and proper enunciated English said "Excuse me, but I would appreciate it if you would stop throwing stones.", and they all stopped. We just couldn't imagine that working with American kids, they would all target the complainer. It was quite a lesson on how civilized they are, and how far behind American manners have fallen.

Khufu said:

I have family there, and lived in Sydney, Aus for a while and worked with lots of Kiwis, they were great.

Iceland bringing the hits!

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vil says...

San Marino? Iceland? Finland? New Zealand? Switzerland? Holland? Denmark? Canada? Possibly Sweden? Id give them a shot.

Funny to imagine that. Montenegro pulling the strings for once instead of being pushed away from the camera by Trump. Half the world scurrying to maps in vain, trying to find it, the other half not knowing what the fuss is about as usual. You will buy our goat milk or we will impose tariffs on your fancy gangster guns, automobiles and helicopters!

As superpowers go, the US is not too bad. Its a fairly hands-off type superpower if you compare it to say the Roman Empire or Napoleonic France. Taking a long time to even annex Puerto Rico properly.

Wondering really how China will fare. Give it 25 years. And they sure wont ask as nicely as you just did.

bcglorf said:

Here's a challenge, name a country you think would be better, or you would rather see as the worlds dominant super power.

The Wicked Feline Murder Floof, a Yule Cat Story

newtboy says...

When we visited Iceland, my wife and I hiked all over Dimmuborgir, the home of the Yule lads. It was a maze of caves and canyons with pathways throughout, some more obvious than others. Various placards had information about them and their parents, but I don't recall anything about their cat.
*quality mythology

The Wicked Feline Murder Floof, a Yule Cat Story



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