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Do you consider the film Die Hard a Christmas movie? (User Poll by eric3579)

JustSaying says...

Man, I'm suuuper late to this party....
Anyways, Die Hard is and is not a Christmas movie at the same time. And it depends on your definition what makes a Christmas movie.
I'm gonna take an insane detour here that'll make sense.
Is Star Wars Episode 4 a science fiction movie?
That setting is futuristic, sure, must be sci-fi then. Lasers, Spaceships, Robots, the works. The checklist is done. Sci-Fi.
But what are the themes it touches upon, what is the story?
A young farmer's boy (naturally an adoptred orphan) named Luke is dragged into a rebellion against an evil king (Palpatine) by accident. When the boy get's hold of a pretty princess' (RIP Carrie Fisher) message to an old ally and menthor (Obi) through the fault of her two comic-relief servants (Robot-slaves), he decides to seek the adventure he's yearning for. He finds the old man (by fucking up) and both seek the next harbor to board a ship to join the resistance. The hire smuggler/pirate/bandit/nerfherder Han and his foreign friend Chewie and cross paths with the black knight Lord Vader, the evil kings enforcer. Hijinks ensue, princess rescued, the magic castle/ship/train of the evil king get's destroyed and everyone gets a medal.
What's exactly sci-fi here?
That could play out in medieval times. Or ancient greece. Or the wild west. Or on Christmas.
The setting and the genre are two different things and both determine what you'll label a story with.
Alien is a horror movie, a slasher. Aliens is a war movie. Alien³ is a horror movie of the animal-gone-maneater kind. Alien: Resurrection is a disaster movie (hihi).
They're all sci-fi, like Star Wars. Because of the setting.
Now look at Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 2 Episode 9 'The Measure Of A Man'.
Lasers, spaceships, robots, the usual. What is it about?
A Robot who's so sophisticated that he has to go to trial to prove he's not property but a real boy. Sure, you'll say, I've seen Pinocchio and I can see african men argue the same stuff in the 18th century. The point of the story is not only that is humanity is questioned, the point is he's an artificial lifeform. The question is not only 'What makes you a person?' but also 'When does artificial intelligence become an artificial person?'
That shit won't work in a setting without spaceships and robots. That's sci-fi because of its story.
So, setting and story are both what makes you label a movie a certain way but they're not the same.
Die Hard. Happens on Christmas. Could be Thanksgiving too. Setting interchangeable.
Story? Doesn't contain any christmas-related themes beyond two estranged family members become closer again. That could happen at a funeral as well.
I'm in my mid-thirties and I love Die Hard. It's one of the best 80's action movies. I can watch it anytime and I've seen it at least 20 times (noit joking here). But mostly in the summer. But I understand the question and its diverse answers perfectly well.
Die Hard is a christmas movie if it feels like one to you. For me, Lord of the Rings (especially Fellowship) feels like a Christmas movie to me. I've seen them all in theatres in December, I watched them on VHS and Blu-Ray only in December so far. They have fuck all to do with the occasion but this year was the first one I didn't watch any of them in December. And I feel I missed something this year. I'm not sure I can watch them at this time of the year.

eric3579 (Member Profile)

Brother Dee Gray Exposes The Funeral Hustle

ToastyBuffoon says...

I understand completely what this man has said. My wife passed away a bit over 3 years ago, and after all was said and done from the funeral, to the headstone at the cemetery, I had spent nearly 15k. You know what? I don't regret a penny of it. Her funeral service was lovely, and gave myself, her friends, and other family members an opportunity to say goodbye and to reflect on the good experiences she brought everyone. It was beautifully done and I honestly believe I'd regret not having done that.

WKB (Member Profile)

This Diagram Explains Trump's Response To Orlando

RFlagg says...

The number of attacks on this country will skyrocket if Trump wins, simply because it would be far easier to radicalize people after that. Trump and the Republican party are doing everything they can to appease what ISIS wants us to do, making their job easier.

And while this guy was a Muslim, the constant labeling of him as being with ISIS is a bit out there. Yes he claimed allegiance to ISIS, but he also claimed allegiance to Hezbollah, a group opposed to ISIS that is in fact doing a lot of the fighting against them. So it seems more likely that he was taken in by the anti-gay rhetoric of religion (one shared by the far right Christians) and stepped it up to a mass murder rampage.

Nobody would call those guy who took over the Oregon facility Radicalized Christian Terrorists, though that's what they were. They did it in the name of Christ, saying that God was the one who told them to do it. You don't blame a whole religion for an act of a few radical members. The right then complains that regular Muslims don't do enough to protest the actions of those few, but I don't see masses of Christians counter protesting the God Hates Fags people who are protesting soldier funerals, or will be at the funerals of the people killed at this club... in fact I saw the God Hates Fags people there at the scene and there wasn't a big crowd of Christians fighting against the radicalized Christians spreading hate... Matthew 7:5 may apply to their attitude towards the situation...

Samantha Bee - Crisis Pregnancy Centers

newtboy says...

I had no idea this was a thing.
I actually hope we have a rash of fake abortion clinics being burned and receiving bomb and death threats because the anti-abortion idiots also don't know they are fakes and frauds. That would be the best karma ever. I would go cheer at both the trial and the funerals if that happened here.
I was amazed to find out that, even here in far N. California we have these fake clinics spreading lies.

Captain America: Civil War - Official Films Music - FULL VER

Judge Dead, 2016 (RIP(?) Antonin Scalia dead at 79)

radx says...

I'll just take the opportunity and quote from Hunter S. Thompson's comment on Richard Nixon's death:

"If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin."

The best, dumbest Star Wars Crap you can buy

Strippers at Funerals

JustSaying says...

If I was rich and had time to prepare, I'd hire clowns to my funeral. Not just to unsettle the people attending itz but also to be an asshole to the clowns.

Fuck clowns.

Ask a Mortician - Is Embalming Dangerous?

gorillaman says...

Well as David Mitchell says, I believe on death the body should revert to the state. To have its organs harvested, be turned into animal feed, whatever's most practical.

When I see a funeral procession go by I can't help feeling that I've witnessed some creepingly bizarre, atavistic rite. And the resources these superstitious, corpse-fondling indulgences consume! It's enormously and criminally wasteful.

Waspp said:

Cremation should be the law. BTW, I want to do it with her.

Moby-God moving across the face of the waters

Moby-God moving across the face of the waters

BoneRemake says...

fuck that noise. @eric3579 please double promote this for me and I will give you the power points back. Such bullshit for a great melody. I want this to play at my funeral to be honest.

A Moving Student Haka,Shows Mad Respect At Teachers Funeral

Asmo says...

Hell, I thought facing down a haka from 15 year old rugby players (used to play school Rugby Union when I was in NZ for a couple of years) was powerful.

For more information/context on haka's in general, this page gives a pretty good overview.

https://mysendoff.com/2014/04/funeral-haka-a-powerful-dance-from-the-soul/

There's a video of NZ defense force personal performing a haka for troops killed in action attached for those that are interested.



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