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Charles Manson's Epic Answer

thinker247 says...

If a therapist tells a client to kill themselves, and the client does so, that person didn't need to live. So in that case, I'd thank the therapist for ridding the earth of a weak person who took the advice of anybody in authority because they were too weak to make their own informed decisions. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

If a leader orates beautifully about killing millions of Jews, but he is speaking to an empty room because everyone is at home enjoying time with their families and neighbors, where does his message go? Do six million people end up in gas chambers? It's the people who propel the leader, not his message. That is why I absolve the leader of much of the blame, but condemn the followers. If the German people hadn't been so easily manipulated by a flatulent meth addict because they were reeling from a devastating loss in World War I, Hitler would have been reduced to nothing.

Some people would argue that Hitler was just as much to blame as his followers, but he was just a man with ideas. He couldn't have sent ten million people to their deaths by himself. And Charles Manson couldn't have massacred seven people on his own, either.

You think if he'd said to bake them brownies, instead of murder them, those people would still be alive?

That depends on how well the Manson Family could bake.

Squeaky Fromme tried to assassinate Gerald Ford, if you recall. I don't think Manson told her to do that. Some people are just crazy on their own. Maybe the murders would have still occurred, but maybe not. *shrugs*

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I'm very glad you have high moral standards and a strong will, not everyone does. In fact some people are pretty easily influenced by authority or their peers. And while this doesn't belay that these people are responsible for their actions it also doesn't exonerate those who push them into said actions. If somebody worships the ground I walk on, and I turn around and tell them to go kill some people, am I not responsible for how I used my influence over them? Isn't my influence and direction over them the catalyst? Again unless the influenced was coerced under extreme duress, they still retain responsibility for their action, but person who told them to is also responsible, it was their actions, their misuse of their power that caused the other person.
If a therapist tells a client, "wow you really don't have anything to live for, you should kill yourself", and the client does, is the therapist not responsible? Didn't they, in a position of authority, give the emotionally vulnerable client instructions to do something that would cause irreparable harm?
I would also like to add people can go to prison for conspiracy to commit murder. If somebody told you to kill someone, and you said no, then told the cops that person had tried to get you to kill someone and had solid evidence to the fact, that person is going to jail for a long time, if not life.
So I guess to sum things up, yes the people who actually did the killings were responsible for what they did, and as far as I know, none of them went free. But Manson, who directed them, is also responsible for his actions. You think if he'd said to bake them brownies, instead of murder them, those people would still be alive?

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The Fate of Threads lost (Wildwestshow Talk Post)

choggie says...

ok up a notch....
If someone "creates" a play list on youtube, which is not necessarily a sum of like parts, meaning it is created to convey another altogether, for instance, any number of the players I have made here which carry a vibe....like this one>http://www.videosift.com/video/D-R-U-M-M-A-C-H-I-N-E-M-O-N-T-A-G-E

or any other number of similar ones I have flown and crashed or landed, why would this not be similar to a "self link"..?

To all you folks who are dead set on "refining" the sift by adding new rules....
As certain users hold hostage the freedom here to be and do as one pleases within' the framework(these idiots bug the fuck outta me-still love ya, welcome back, now sit down and shut the fuck up) the "quality" of this place as it grows, becomes appealing only to those who need little more than some beer-bongs, a chorus of flatulence, or a window overlooking the basest of the human experience.....or you have some holier than thou agenda to teach the world of which you don't know a goddamn thing about!! (DUMBASS!!!)-esp. you political tire-kickers and fans, and ya goddamn, blessed atheists.....(But we here at VS are working to keep your personal take on what you think the world should be doing according to your programming, in a tiny little box. At least that guy choggie is.....
a better "put to all", is how much time is there in the world, before this place and her users, take this place to the next level, and make dag and lucky, and all of us rich and famous????Hmmmmm?

You whiners need to shut the fuck up....and leave me alone to tweak this place as I see fit-

oh, forgot to say please.
please, there.Peace....

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flexing the discard
flexing whatever power I choose in my arsenal, when and how I see fit, for the edification of all, to the sorrow of but a passing few-

The Fate of Threads Lost (Wildwestshow Talk Post)

choggie says...

ok up a notch....
If someone "creates" a play list on youtube, which is not necessarily a sum of like parts, meaning it is created to convey another altogether, for instance, any number of the players I have made here which carry a vibe....like this one>http://www.videosift.com/video/D-R-U-M-M-A-C-H-I-N-E-M-O-N-T-A-G-E

or any other number of similar ones I have flown and crashed or landed, why would this not be similar to a "self link"..?

To all you folks who are dead set on "refining" the sift by adding new rules....
As certain users hold hostage the freedom here to be and do as one pleases within' the framework(these idiots bug the fuck outta me-still love ya, welcome back, now sit down and shut the fuck up) the "quality" of this place as it grows, becomes appealing only to those who need little more than some beer-bongs, a chorus of flatulence, or a window overlooking the basest of the human experience.....or you have some holier than thou agenda to teach the world of which you don'y know a goddamn thing-esp. you political tire-kickers and fans, and ya goddamn, blessed atheists.....(But we here at VS are working to keep your personal take on what you think the world should be doing according to your programming, in a tiny little box. At least that guy choggie is.....
a better "put to all", is how much time is there in the world, before this place and her users, take this place to the next level, and make dag and lucky, and all of us rich and famous????Hmmmmm?

You whiners need to shut the fuck up....and leave me alone to tweak this place as I see fit-

oh, forgot to say please.
please, there.Peace....

flexing the downvote
flexing the discard
flexing whatever power I choose in my arsenal, when and how I see fit, for the edification of all, to the sorrow of but a passing few-

Dildo Song

Highbrow Antics of a Cat! (3 seconds)

snoozedoctor says...

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'Farting Cat Incident'.

Feline flatulence fracas. The doc has arrived to view the carnage. I didn't even watch the video. I came to inspect the combat. It's kinda like channel surfing and stopping to watch that Ultimate fighter crap. It's revolting, but you want to stick around and see who wins. I reel at the number of sifters who nearly choked on this hair-ball.
Prescription- take 2 chill pills, wash them down with Talisker, put your feet up on the deck railing, watch the sun set over the fields of amber, get all comfy, then go inside, turn on the TV and see who IS winning that Cage fight. I'm pulling for that guy with the tatoos, crooked nose and the 2 inch thick ears,.........wait, they all look like that. Nobody wins in that cage.

The Flatulating Bunny

Highbrow Antics of a Cat! (3 seconds)

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(American) Football Ref Farts on Camera

J-Rova says...

so many haters. what do you foreigners call it, then? I know in Germany they call it Amerikanischen Fussball, but ahh... I'm at a loss on the English side. Perhaps I should rename it baseball, since there is no actual footage of any sport, of any name or kind, in the video - unless, of course, you consider flatulence a sport - but I'm not sure what that would be called either.

Joepieee!

The Flatulating Bunny

rougy says...

"^furry with a tail?"

No - big feet and flatulent.

"rougy, how many girlfriends have you got?!?"

At present, none. I was unable to lower my standards any further.

Kitty Corner Shot... a stuffed animal gun... oh jeez

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