Yikes. Think I'll take my chances with an old fashioned EMT that knows WTF they're doing. I can see the promise of the fast response time, but I'm afraid that misdiagnosis by the caller could lead to f'ups. Defibrillation of someone having a seizure rather than a heart attack, for example, probably isn't recommended.

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I disagree. His manner seems as foreign to myself as perhaps assisting a single EMT with a sucking-chest wound would seem, if you sir were asked to.....'flowers-in-his-hair'??? Really??? Sounds like your power-animal might be a cute little penguin or fluffy bunny, kinna like the guy behind the wheel of this 'film it for court purposes' offering and oh, upload it to the internet to show how calm, cool, and superior I am to this mentally divergent enlisted type (who is CLEARLY insane) by become a living statue of "DUH."
Loook how we handled ourselves, while being completely oblivious to our lack of driving skills and how they affect people who pay attention to the road when they share it with everyone.

Believe me sir, I KNOW this type all too well, and I'm not even a mental health professional....

Reception Area is decorated with Aloe Vera plants: Hors d'oeuvres include frozen treats and serving bowls filled with varying-sized bandages and gauze with surgical tape dispensers on the walls nearby.

BYO flame-retardant clothing and crazy, drunk uncles....

Bridesmaids-Nurse uniforms
Groomsmen-EMT Uniforms

could toooootally do your next wedding ladies...

This may run long, so bear with me.

Law Enforcement employees tend to come from two specific groups of people. The first group is going to consist of people who actually joined up to try to protect people and make things safer for them. They are idealists who may grow jaded over time; because realistically if your only input on what being a LEO is the internet and reality TV, you are not prepared for the type of mental assault you will endure day in and day out. I'm not talking about angry people, but stuff like drawing circles around little chunks of brains on the highway from a teenage girl that went through a windshield.

As an officer at any level (except maybe a small town), you are going to see the absolute worst side of humanity on a daily basis and you aren't on a tour of duty like the military. You don't get to 'rotate' home and put it behind you. This will wear on anybody who is not a sociopath, it will grind you down to a nub. You could see professional help for this, but I will go into that later.

The second type of person who goes into law enforcement is someone who likes authority, a sense of power over someone else, a bully. This person is in the job because it gives them power over others and the law will protect them because it is vaguely worded in SO many cases. This person will shrug off the effects that cripple the first type over time, because they feel in charge of every situation. After a while, if they don't tone it down, they will get caught. Thankfully the cell camera and the internet tends to be helping clean them out due to their own incapability to see they can't ALWAYS be in charge, but it will be a long road because this group is the BULK of the ones that join LE organizations.

Now why do these two groups tend to be the ones that you are going to run into on a consistent basis? The simple, hard answer is that we pay our front line LEO's very little compared to other services that risk their life or experience the mental grind. Your average patrol officer is going to pull a median salary of about 35k with comparable benefits to someone working in a office job. A firefighter is going to pull around 45k and scales up much quicker, not to mention their benefits are beyond good. EMT's make about the same as patrol officers, but their benefits are also very good and they don't have the same stressors. I know that ranges will vary and State LEO's are very well paid on average, but we are talking about the people you are going to encounter most often.

If you have to choose between a job where you are going to be considered a 'hero' or a job where everyone is going to be biased towards you being a 'villain, and the hero jobs pay better, which would you logically choose? Assuming of course that you are not sorted into one of the two groups I described, most are going to run away from serving in LE. In fact, this is why more of the 'bullies' tend towards LE and the 'idealists' don't. So you already have created a situation where the 'stormtrooper' mindset is going to prefer this job and haven't considered options to rectify it. The people you don't run into that much are going to be the people that took college and got pushed through the ranks quickly. If you didn't take college or just took an Associates Degree, you have to beat these people out. It is extremely hard to do that, even if you do your job much better than they did.

The final factor that runs into this is the mental issues I mentioned earlier. If you seek help from your employers for mental stress, they are going to handle it differently if you are a LEO. You are going to find out quickly that you are expendable. If you seek help and get classified as PTSD, you set a chain of events in motion that is inexorable. You will be rotated to a desk. You will see a Psychiatrist who will prescribe anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication. This person will meet with you for around 15 minutes 3-4 times a week, ask you questions, and ask if the medication is helping. If you return to functional status in a month or two, you get put back on duty. If you don't, they put you on short term disability for up to one year. Your visits drop to once a week, then once a month. One year later, your employment is terminated. They hire a new recruit and start the cycle again about the same time that you start your short term disability. You get to try to salvage your career in anyway possible, hopefully you paid through the nose for long term disability, or you can try to find a smaller department that doesn't bother to dig too deep on background checks.

Other related fields like firefighters/emts comprehend PTSD and work with their people much harder. They have better benefits so you they can see outside therapists as much as needed. There is less stigma if you have a problem, because they understand. You go on the fritz as an LEO and you will overhear people who used to respect you call you weak or a pussy. Sadly this type of thing happens at all levels of LE, even as a State Trooper you are expendable.

In any case, the point to this essay is that the system is flawed and is going to drive out the good LEOs and save the bad ones to protect itself from litigation. Protect yourself at all times with video, be advised of the laws and loopholes in them that bad LEos will exploit, and don't force confrontation with a LEO if there is a loophole. If the man had stepped outside and talked calmly, the incident would not have escalated as it did. In this case he did not inform himself of the loopholes correctly and got tasered (which was improper, they didn't warn him correctly or anything), and the LEOs look like villains again.

I have serious issues with authority of any kind, especially uniformed thugs employed by cities or counties. The state of law enforcement in America is absurd-I do not believe you can remain a cop with noble ethics or morality; YOU WILL compromise any noble intentions you had to"protect and serve" eventually.
I never give police factual information when I do not absolutely have to. I will of necessity or impulse, reaction or response, engage injustice when I see it, regardless of personal safety or violation of statutes.

I don't know you, don't strike a woman in my presence: I don't care if she hit you first and don't need any "whys", I won't stop pummeling you until you are unconscious.

I have met about 5 fair cops in the hundreds I have ever had to engage.

Sorry porky, you chose a douchbag profession. Sorry Velocity5, I suppose I simply don't have my "life" together enough to appreciate Mr. Badgy. I do however get wood when I consider the noble fireman or EMT. Used to hang out at the firehouse with my son once a week in Durango. You can't "hang out" at a police station....If you did, some dickhead would start asking questions and probably arrest you for loitering. Fuck the PO-Leece.

i held out as long as i could to watch this. fine, take my money. I haven't snowboarded or mtn biked in 8 yrs. I'm sure I will have undesirable results and the camera will be taken off my body by an EMT, then uploaded by an intern, which may be sifted here, but in my defense this video made it look SO EASY.

>> ^Yogi:

Soooo should I just get outa Nursing school?


No way, stay in- Medical fields a-booming....Best return on the investment in the realm of "higher" learnning.

Military
Police
EMT/Medical
Prison System
Rich People (%1%)

Professions that will make up over %50 of all "employment" opportunities in our evolving paradigm...

@ulysses1904
http://www.copblock.org/2841/police-brutality-statistics/

Sorry there criminal justice professor, no need to site anything but internet sources, you have eyes and everyone has cell phones to record, you can see the rage in the faces of the majority of cops. They pump the shit into homes 24/7, 365 to let us all know that crime is on the rise and more cops with better weapons are needed.

The violence may continue to rise given that the pool of recruits becomes less intelligent (a result of being raised in a society in decline) and the pool of qualified applicants include more inner-city youths, PTSD victims returning home from fucking around the globe playing war games, etc...

Police organizations will always recruit the dregs as well as the capable, but more punks and thugs everyday become law enforcement...Goes with the territory as it were, I am convinced that to perform your duties as a Police officer you have to compromise integrity and ethics at some point or you will not make the final cut. The job has become tainted.

In one possible future which includes these less-than-ethical thugs as cops, there may only be a few types of citizens:
Ultra Wealthy
Wage slaves
Police,Military, Prison personnel, EMT, and other Government employees

the mysterious EMT from the woods really gave me the new york flavor.... the tow truck men getting it pulled and flipped was also a beautiful symphony of cooperation. Huzzah to society with EMS and first responders! Boo to syria's assad and religious factions fighting civil wars.

The problem with your riposte is that doesn't address my comment. The "justice" of a shooting by police where the facts are not yet known is not the concern of this sift. An angry mob outnumbering cops, say, 10 to 1, leaves cops with little option but to defend themselves from being killed. Or do you expect them to let mobs simply kill them?

A mob is not a gaggle of angry but thoughtful/idealistic/rational individuals, it's a "monster" with its own appetites, savage and anonymous. Witness riots by fans of sports teams that have won.

Do angry mobs run into burning buildings? Do they try to pile in to an ambulance while EMTs are attempting to load a stretcher? Then why the approval of fking with police trying to do a job?

The facts surrounding this shooting have yet to come to light.

Ignorance is expecting perfection from any human being, including cops.


>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^quantumushroom:
"Hey, I just got a great idea, let's all form an angry mob and go scream at police, even though we have no idea what the hell's going on. We do know some guy was shot and killed. We have no idea why he was running from police, whether he threatened police with deadly force or had just killed someone else--hell, we don't have context for any of this--all I know is I'm with this mob screeching at police. Bring the kids, they'll want to see this!"

That's bullshit. It doesn't matter if the people here were ignorantly lead to believe a lie about what they were protesting or if they were just plain wrong and supported a radical ideal. We shouldn't do this in America where even the ignorant like yourself are protected. We should support those with differing opinions with a dialog, not brute force. You and those in political office that support your fucked up vision of the world are the reason we're in this in the first place.

I hope you choke on a chicken bone or something this christmas..

But refuse the help of the marxist EMTs who were spent by NObama the socialist kenyan and the rest of the taxocrats in order to increase spending on hard working Corporate Persons like Goldman Sachs.

>> ^quantumushroom:

taxocrats are hoping Paul will get the nomination (he won't) so the marxist could run easy, deceptive ads about what a kook Paul is.
I'd vote for Kook Paul over the marxist.

Usually EMT makes some tasty-looking business, but this looks altogether too perverse.

>> ^ulysses1904:

meh. They will report anything they hear when it's live TV, they have to keep up a constant stream of chatter. That morning at work we were hearing that there was smoke coming from the White House and that the Sears tower in Chicago was burning, blah blah blah. We heard lots of stuff that day, this is par for the course.
Also there's plenty of footage of eyewitnesses whose versions are at great odds with the actual videos of that day. Like some guy insisted the 2nd plane shut off its engines and glided into the 2nd tower.


Yeah hundreds of eye witnesses claim there was multiple ground level explosions, including firefighters, emt, and police. But the 9/11 commission didn't feel it was necessary to hear their testimony, and the few it did hear never made the final report. So obviously the eye witnesses are just delusional and must be suffering from post traumatic stress... :eyeroll:

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