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A Definitely True Message From George Santos

newtboy says...

No, you say both sides because you can’t admit your “team” has a problem that isn’t ubiquitous.
Again, I show you dozens of individuals intentionally voting multiple times, dozens of campaigns and the party itself engaging in ballot harvesting and other schemes that together equate to hundreds of thousands of stolen votes, you answer “both sides” with absolutely not a single case on the Democrats side (besides the one entrapment case I handed you)….and pretend you won’t provide examples because they’ll be dismissed not because you have none….being dismissed doesn’t stop you from posting all the other propaganda. Knowing you will dismiss the verifiable facts I present you hasn’t stopped me from posting them in contradiction to your baseless propaganda.

I admit Democrats self deal, do insider trading, and sell their votes to deep pockets….but on a scale that’s microscopic compared to the complete lack of ethics and morals on the right. The right was significantly less honest, more money hungry, more corrupt than the left BEFORE Trump….after Trump it’s comparing the Mediterranean to an Olympic sized pool. Technically both have water. Comparatively the pool is completely insignificant….but you only want to focus on what happens in the pool.

Trump and family made literally BILLIONS selling favors. Never been a bigger crook in any office in the land. Greene went from pennyless to a multi millionaire in 2 years. Same for Santos who is a total fraud in every way, a fugitive, and supported by your party…apparently made millions from his campaign. You’ll be hard pressed to find any Republican that hasn’t made millions in office by ignoring ethics completely. You won’t find ANY trying to get big money (bribery) out of politics…only the left is interested in that, the right wants MORE bribery legalized (citizens United was their case, proving Republicans fight for MORE corruption in politics while Democrats fight to end it), the right refuses to divest, and opposes any strengthening of ethics rules EVERY TIME Democrats push for more/stronger ethics rules/laws.

Of course I’ll dismiss your hyper biased, unthinking, no fact idiotic claims, especially since they NEVER have references (because everything you believe is partisan nonsense and lies). It’s not worth the time because it takes no time at all to debunk your constant consistent lies and pure fantasy. If you had any actual facts it would be worth posting them, but you just don’t. You don’t bother to post lately because the stupid lies have gotten dumber and are being debunked as fast as you guys can lie them. It’s past the point where it’s safe to simply deny anything you say as a partisan lie with no investigation at all….chances are 99.96% you are lying or repeating lies any time you type. You never have facts or even references to show where your lies came from….which is totally intentional because you know that only makes debunking them much easier.

In congress….98% of corruption, 100% of child molestation, 100% of treason, 100% of calls to rescind the constitution, voting, and democracy and become a dictatorship are on the right. You call that “both sides” and pretend it’s really mostly a problem on the left with a very few outliers from the right….ignoring the facts….as usual.

You know the old saying….
“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” -Thomas Paine

You sir abandoned fact and reason well before the Traitor Trump rode his golden escalator of lies into your heart. I don’t argue with you except as practice, you have no actual argument to offer, only the far right party lines. I simply tell you the verifiable facts. You then argue with the facts and pat yourself on the head in congratulations. Silly boy.

BTW…have you grown up enough to discuss Ashley Babbitt yet? The treasonous traitor who violently attacked the capitol with an armed gang of thugs trying to overthrow democracy at Trump’s urging and got what they all deserved….your hero.
No, I’m sure you’re still just too embarrassed of how idiotic supporting domestic terrorists is and just hope everyone will forget you stand firmly with the treasonous terrorist traitors against democracy, law, and order.

bobknight33 said:

I say both sides because it is both sides. You just so biased that you done even see it.

I dont bother to post because whats the point - you will just dismiss it an its just not worth the time.


You know the old saying..

“Show me a man that gets rich being a politician and I will show you a crook” Harry s. Truman

A Definitely True Message From George Santos

newtboy says...

Hold on there nutjob….

I 100% agree the ball was completely dropped by Dems who should have made an issue of this in Oct, knowing the right wouldn’t because they say facts and honesty are only for liberals. Had they discovered this immoral scam directly from the RNC before the election, Dems would have kept the house.

But it’s not the job of the opposition to discover the lies their opponent tells, nor their fault for not uncovering lies told by candidates and backed by their party. It’s the person who lies and those that knowingly corroborate their lies that are to blame, they are in the wrong, not the Democrats. You would blame the victim for not discovering the unbelievable crime beforehand, and accept no blame as the willing accomplice. Do you blame home invasion victims for not having security doors and bullet proof windows, armed security, and panic rooms? Oh wait….you actually do (Pelosi)

It took more than a scratch of the surface because Republican representatives and RNC officials totally knowingly supported and corroborated the lies with big grins, never saying a word despite knowing he was completely full of shit and not caring one bit they were lying to their constituents because honesty is not a righty feature, they didn’t just lie to the left, they did this to you, lying to you and making you their sucker intentionally for power. You don’t care, because it gains your team power and you like being lied to, and no amount of criminality and dishonesty is a deal breaker for you….absolutely nothing could make you upset that you belong to a terrorist anti American party of crooks and frauds, not even when they call to repeal the constitution and eliminate voting.
If Democrats perpetrated this kind of fraud you would be apoplectic, totally enraged and calling for another insurrection, but they never have and never would because their constituents care about honesty, facts, and ethics unlike the right.

You love to “both sides” every time your side gets caught pulling fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud after fraud, but you NEVER come up with examples of anything close to the scope and immorality of the Republicans. I show you a dozen concerted efforts by campaigns and elected officials to defraud elections on massive, 10000 votes and more scale, you come back with one woman who cast a single provisional ballot in Texas after officials cleared her to vote and say “both sides”.

Democrats aren’t perfect, but 98% of corruption, fraud, outright lies, self dealing, etc is on the Republican side, and 100% of yes to big money in politics, 100% of domestic terrorism, 100% of anti democracy sentiment, 100% of child sex abuse, 100% of calls to rescind the constitution is on the right. Or as you say….both sides.

bobknight33 said:

Hold on there nutboy

Where were the Dems opo research?
A mild scratch of the surface and all this would come out.

That being said he should be kicked out. But Rep's will not do such a thing because they need him to hold the majority.

Sad to see that our government is so corrupt and standards so low. This is on both sides.

A Few Key Moments From The Jan 6 Committee

luxintenebris jokingly says...

that's cute. adorable. 'his own dime' - tee hee!

any 'dime' he made - on his own - he spent on breath mints or chicken-laced fat.

what a rube.

'tho if'n U R B N serious about getting rid of big money, Citizen United has to be overturned - or better - nix by an amendment.

BTW: it was a conservative court that believed non-existing entities were/are people - so w/coathanger amy, biff, & the ice man* - it's only gotten worse.

for it to work - gotta give up the 'us vs them' mentality. it's keeping your people in bull rings, on shooting ranges & viral videos at school board meetings. (hair hilter ain't the way)


*https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/mar/23/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-frozen-trucker-alphonse-maddin

bobknight33 said:

The treasonous Traitors are our Government leaders. They are bought by those with big $. Those are the traitors. They bow to the highest bidder.

Trump came to office on his own dime. Think about that. He is not bought. What good is a politician if he is not controllable .

A Few Key Moments From The Jan 6 Committee

newtboy jokingly says...

The treasonous Traitors are YOUR Government leaders, the far right and extreme right that actually tried to overthrow the American government. They are bought by those with big $. Those are the traitors. They bow to the highest bidder. They created and still support “Citizens United”. They block every effort to get big money out of politics.

Trump promised to come to office on his own dime, then took hundreds of millions including massive donations from foreign agents of countries he later gave preferential treatment. In total, for 2016 Trump officially raised $339 million (we know he raised way more privately) and spent $322 million, much of which was paid to Trump companies. Think about that. “On his own dime”….based on what? His promise!? Bwaaaahahahahaaaa! Sucker. He is totally bought and paid for. What good is buying a politician if he is not controllable .

FTFY

bobknight33 said:

The treasonous Traitors are our Government leaders. They are bought by those with big $. Those are the traitors. They bow to the highest bidder.

Trump came to office on his own dime. Think about that. He is not bought. What good is a politician if he is not controllable .

Republicans Hate Dark Money Until They Love It

luxintenebris jokingly says...

bob & i are on the same page.

not the 'all are corrupt' twang but agree on dark money - or big money. it needs to be culled to foster irreproachability in our government halls.

not sure how to do this, but bet the Red & Blue could come up w/a purple solution (if the Red aren't so f'n' far gone). would also like all the insider trading to be nixed. for the good of all of us/the US.

go w/Truman's belief: “honest public servant can’t become rich in politics.” like to believe most go w/good intentions 'tho noxious weeds grow in unattended gardens - & parking lots.
("Fifth Risk" is a good read on the subject.)

* * * did 33 offer up tax funding for social good? we are having a good effect on him hanging w/good company can save souls * * *

Why Geography Makes The US Insanely OP

newtboy says...

More Right wingers go to congress as millionaires, spending their money to get the job than leftists. Trump is a prime example of spending millions intending to abuse his presidential power for personal familial gains in the billions….then repaying himself with campaign donor’s money. Also, it’s the right that refuses to consider campaign finance reform and consistently fights for more big money in politics. The left tries to close corruption loopholes, like requiring complete divestment instead of fake “blind trusts” like Trump who had his son do his insider trading while joined at the hip and called that a blind trust. 🤦‍♂️

Trump is fascist, his politics fit the definition nearly perfectly….had the military abandoned their duties and followed him into despotism as he expected it would be perfect. (He was ever so pissed his generals didn’t follow him blindly like Hitler’s generals, because he’s so ignorant he doesn’t know Hitler’s generals tried repeatedly to assassinate Hitler)

Is this finally an admission it was Trumpists committing treason by trying to overthrow the government with a violent coup on Jan 6, not ANTIFA or BLM? How long will that last I wonder. You just admit(ed) that this is true.

Again, because you never remember, 1 million Americans needlessly died from a vacuum of leadership encouraging them to ignore all public health as a divisive political move, and the right would have doubled that number of dead given their druthers.
I would also remind you a huge portion of the arsons in 2020 at BLM rallies were right wing false flag operations trying to blame BLM for Trumpist’s crimes, exactly like you did with Jan 6.
https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2020/10/07/white-people-make-up-90-of-arson-charges-and-75-of-property-damage-charges-stemming-from-portland-protest
s/

I would point out that one week of the Trucker blockades at the Canada border cost $360 million per day in lost production/undelivered goods alone, totaling over $2.5 billion in losses for the first week of that right wing nonsense that lasted weeks-months then traveled the nation disrupting business for almost a year. Jan 6 cost well over $500 million. All BLM damage (including the false flag damage) is ESTIMATED to eventually reach UP TO $2 billion in insurance CLAIMS, not actual losses and damage, not payouts.
Right wing riots are more costly by far, and the causes are ‘being viciously murdered by police’ on the left, and ‘having to wear a face mask’ on the right (often when there’s no mask mandate in place).

bobknight33 said:

Like I said all governments are corrupt, even ours. Democrats and Republicans are corrupt. Why would anyone spend millions just to get a 200K $ /yr job?

Trump is not Fascist, just has a large following.
Jan 6 was 1 day of that went sideways.

During Trump years the left burned looted killed many more. The Left are the dangerous side, inciting violence, anti free speech.


You just admit that this is true.

This man is POTUS

newtboy says...

But those who itemized before lost big money. Now the standard deduction is almost always the best you get, not the case before….bait and switch is all that was, a shell game, not a give back.

Where’s my tax form I can fill out on a postcard in 5 minutes? Where’s the promised simplification so ordinary people don’t have to spend hundreds or thousands to get their taxes done? And when do those higher standard deductions run out, without the return of previously deductible offsets?

*crickets*

bobknight33 said:

its your standard deduction on you Fed tax form.
12K for singles
24K for married.

It's Not Okay

BSR says...

I wonder why we never see any big money making racist movies or blockbuster music hits that are racist. Never saw a racist win on America's got talent.

What the hell are you watching?

newtboy said:

Lol. Even you aren't ignorant or dumb enough to not know this is a well known white supremacist racial hate slogan, not an equality movement slogan, not a non inflammatory statement.

Edit...when you see bald white guys wearing t-shirts printed with "14-18-88" you would insist they're just clean cut math enthusiasts. There is none so blind as he who will not see.

Um....take another English class Vlad, I think you mean nuts infer hate, because you just called your own cohorts nuts. It's crystal clear they are implying hate with these pro white fliers being posted only in minority areas and schools, not predominantly white areas and schools....you need #10 RWNJ goggles to hide that fact from yourself.

Rightwing cowardly assholes can't stand behind their own hate in public, but revel in it when they're together in private. You're cohorts are afraid to admit who they are, so afraid of everything they're afraid of themselves, or at least they're afraid of the repercussions of exposure. That's why they can't admit what's obvious to everyone who isn't delusionally biased....that they're racist.

Remember, it's RWNJ's like yourself that totally lost their shit and continue to be triggered today over "black lives matter", insisting it's a racist movement and slogan...now they want to hide their obvious racist intent by pretending they're emulating that social justice movement when challenged...it's laughably transparent.

I guess you didn't watch this video, because there was plenty of right wing fear there....ending in the creation of your fear...."it's not ok to be white"...a Fox news created slogan you were terrified by. Boy do they have your number.

You are helping them spread the white supremacist message by only looking at life with your blinders and right wing goggles on.

College Entrance Exam Scam Busted, 50 Arrested

Mystic95Z says...

Yep, the whole college admission testing/qualifying thing is a scam, unless you are going for a free ride via scholarship. This should be a non issue if colleges take big money from a donor directly to get their kid in.

Payback said:

Not sure why these people were singled out. I guess the schools were pissed they weren't being bribed too.

AOC Exposes The Dark Side - "Let's Play A Game"

newtboy says...

She clearly points out the ability of CONGRESS to satisfy their own self interest and the laws (that they write) that do nothing to stop loopholes of self enrichment and then EXPLAINS HOW THEY ARE HELD TO a higher standard than that of the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CADRE OF SWAMP MONSTERS are held to.

And yet she somehow KNOWS that Trump ( POTUS of 2 years with ALL outside big money funding, SOME FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY AND LAW) has been more GUILTY OF MALFEASANCE than those she sits with.

FTFY

bobknight33 said:

She clearly points out the swamps ability to satisfy their own self interest and the laws (that they write) that do nothing to stop loopholes of self enrichment and then implies that this is a higher standard than that of the president office is held to.

And yet she somehow feels that Trump ( POTUS of 2 years with no outside funding) has been more mailable than those she sits with.

Why Louisiana Stays Poor

Accidental Courtesy: Daryl Davis, Race & America - Festival

bobknight33 says...

It is in the best interest of media, news and politicians to keep this poisoned fruit of racism alive. There is big money in it. They don't want you to truly know the 'other'.

Daryl Davis is doing a good job.

there is a new party in town called the justice democrats

enoch says...

i guess i am in a way.
i have seen bob break away from his ideologues to promote his own ideas.so i know he is capable of defying the monolithic demagogue machinery.

i mean,just the other day he posted a video from secular talk,which is a liberal talk show and is a founding member of justice democrats.

now the video he posted was most likely to promote his own criticism that democrats are greedy little big money addicts,which is not an inaccurate accusation,but i found it odd that he posted a video from a founding member of justice democrats and yet down voted a video---promoting justice democrats.

i want to know how he is reconciling this obvious disparity.

newtboy said:

Clearly the latter. Why even ask? Are you just trying to see if he even realises it?

Tesla Predicts a 2 Car Crash Ahead of Driver

harlequinn jokingly says...

Why research grants of course. Everyone knows that's where the big money is these days. Why just last week I saw a climate scientist driving around in a new Maserati.

(There is a grain of truth to it though. It's not unheard of to bullshit one's way to their next research grant).

newtboy said:

1/4-1/2 of us here believe scientists 'made up' climate change for money (somehow, I've never heard an explanation of where that money comes from)

TYT - How to Rebuild the Democratic Party

newtboy says...

Fire the DNC....yes....AND anyone working for the Clinton campaign. They are all poisoned, and poison to the party now.
Don't put Sanders in as head, we need him in the Senate. He's not the only honest person available, find another or wait until he's retired please.
Removing big money, first from their own campaigns and then if elected from the election in general as a platform base is, perhaps, their ONLY possibility for survival now. The days of accepting 90% of funding from <10 people and still winning elections are over....for the Democrats at least. Working for the people rather than donors....well, removing the money should make that automatic, but perhaps it still needs saying.

Sadly, I think he's right, Democrats in power will snicker at all of those proposals, won't adopt any of them, and will lose even bigger in 2018. We need them to take a long, hard, honest look in the mirror, do an honest critical assessment of the election and how and why they lost against someone so terrible as Orange Kanye, and have an epiphany, or we're just going to be moving farther and farther to the 'right' for the foreseeable future while the Democrats only whine and cry that things aren't fair and it's someone else's fault.



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