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Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

“Fined for mishandling the payment “?
She hired a law firm and classified the payment as legal fees. Isn’t that something your side says isn’t a crime? 😂
The dossier was bought and paid for by Republicans, then sold to the Clinton Campaign. I know you hate that fact, but it’s there.

The laptop contents are fantasy, as is the diary. Half truths and pure fiction. Shouldn’t have tampered with it if you wanted anyone to pay attention….not that it would matter anyway, Hunter is nobody.

The economy crashed under the felon, it got better under Biden. Trump can get credit for the first 6-12 months of the next president’s economy which were not good, but absolutely not last 12 which so far are amazing, far better than the last guy’s best year.

Michael Flynn was convicted of treasonous activity and the felon Trump pardoned him because he did the treason for Trump, namely negotiating with Russia in December before his administration started then lying about it to the FBI.

The Biden’s did no such thing and your multiple investigations have found zero evidence of any payoffs nor a single time Biden changed policy to help China, that was Don and Ivanka who were given millions in patents then the next morning changed policy to favor China, then were gifted more million dollar patents. You can’t point to any untoward or even questionable payment after 4 full years of investigations. At best you just refuse to hear the verified explanations and make up crimes.

Trump lost jobs. He left a negative gdp and recession. Shelves went bare under the felon. Over 1 million Americans died due to his policy according to his own CDC. He added more to the debt and deficit in one term than any listed president did in two. The wannabe dictator left the nation more divided than any time since the 1850s and continues to sew division constantly. Trump was worse than any you listed by any measure. You simply deny the facts.

Nice pedophile fantasy you have there, every accusation is an admission, but not smart especially since Trump definitely fucked his daughter and has bragged about it publicly for decades, Barron is definitely her son, the resemblance is there but not with Melania. Trump is on the Epstein list more than anyone else but Maxwell who he still wishes well…know who isn’t? Biden. Trump is an adjudicated rapist with now 40 accusers. Know who isn’t? One has 34 felony convictions…which one was that? 😂

BTW- the first few post debate polls are out…Biden gained a few points after the debate. Enjoy!

bobknight33 said:

The Russia hoax was just that. Bought and paid for by hilly Clinton, and she got fined for mishandling the payment .

The Laptop IS real. The diary is real

The Economy did get better.
Michael Flynn took a shit deal. along with all the others

.


Biden sold America to China and Ukraine and lined the pockets of himself and his family.

Trump still a better POTUS than OBAMA, Biden or wannabee Clinton.

Joe showered with his daughter. Pedophile Joe is your man.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

bobknight33 says...

The Russia hoax was just that. Bought and paid for by hilly Clinton, and she got fined for mishandling the payment .

The Laptop IS real. The diary is real

The Economy did get better.
Michael Flynn took a shit deal. along with all the others.


Biden sold America to China and Ukraine and lined the pockets of himself and his family.

Trump still a better POTUS than OBAMA, Biden or wannabee Clinton.

Joe showered with his daughter. Pedophile Joe is your man.


bcglorf said:

@bobknight33

Biden crushingly lost the debate....

But that doesn't make Trump's lies true. It doesn't make Trump the better candidate.

Trumps "Russia, Russia, Russia" lie like the entire investigation into him was a hoax is only one of many things that should disqualify him for office. Not just that he's lying about the investigation, but because of the revelations of the investigation itself. The reality of the investigation is SO bad for him that he has to just declare an alternate reality where it's all a lie.

The truth though is that 34 people were indicted as a result of the investigation into the Trump campaign embracing Russian support. 8 of those have plead guilty or been convicted.

The reality got much worse though, as many of those from Trump's campaign were convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury and witness tampering. In return for their committing crimes to cover other crimes, Trump went ahead and granted them pardons... It's beyond imagination.

That's not the bottom though, there is no bottom. Michael Flynn was one of Trump's loyalists that plead guilty to perjury to protect Trump and thus earned a pardon from Trump. After being pardoned Flynn came back to show his continued loyalty to Trump, and after Trump lost the election, promoted a plan for Trump to declare a national emergency, implement martial law, declare the results of the election irrecoverable and initiate a new election vote this time conducted by the military.

So on seeing that plan promoted, Trump invited Flynn to the Whitehouse to advising sessions on handling the election loss...

There is NO bottom to where Trump will go. He's already a convicted felon, and has yet to be convicted or tried for the most egregious of the things he's done.

AND it is also try that he annihilated Biden in this debate.

Doesn't make him a better president.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

I watched enough.

You don’t win a debate by lying. You win by telling the truth and backing it with facts.

Biden won the debate, but lost the campaign commercial-off. He did not “perform” well, he showed his age (a full 3 years older than his opponent) he was hoarse, and he stuttered. He did not seem like he’s ready for another 4 years of a difficult job (allegedly because he had a cold)…which was the point of the day.

The problem is most of America also wasn’t listening to the answers, they were judging the vitality of the candidates. By that measure, Biden lost (slightly, Trump’s fact free rambling was also incoherent at times) but angry lying grandpa in fact lost the DEBATE because he is wrong on the facts, but he looked better doing it.

In fact, Biden won the debate, but I don’t dispute that Trump won the night.
Understand?

bcglorf said:

@newtboy,

Did you watch the debate? Biden lost. Trump is a lying, criminal traitor and by far the worst possible choice for president. Within this debate though, Biden came out weak, incoherent, reactive and worst of all seemed lost and couldn't even finish his first response because he forget what the point he was trying to make. Biden looked like a man who's memory or capacity has been taken from him by age in a terrible way, while Trump was comparatively articulate, on point and focused. That's how badly Biden flubbed this.

Biden's performance was a disaster. Trump is still without doubt the worst possible choice for President, but Biden's campaign did Trump a huge favour with this debate performance.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

To lose, your points must not be valid.
To win, your points must be valid.
Biden won.

Biden also showed his age and missed multiple opportunities to stick it to the felon.

Trump couldn’t get a single fact correct, that’s not good, it’s not even OK. In a debate, that’s a total fail.
Yes, I understand this was more campaign commercial than actual debate. In that, Biden lost.

If Michelle would accept the nomination it would be amazing, Trump would be done and America would be saved by a brilliant woman…but she won’t. I would still be excited for Buttigieg, my choice in 20, but I don’t think he’s going to try either. Anyone is better than the fascist felon. ANYONE. Biden is still a better choice if he’s in a coma.

bobknight33 said:

I watched,
This was Biden's to lose, and he did.
Trump did ok, not great.



Biden looked like a deer in the headlights.
Time to put Michelle Obama in the warm up pen.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

bcglorf says...

@bobknight33

Biden crushingly lost the debate....

But that doesn't make Trump's lies true. It doesn't make Trump the better candidate.

Trumps "Russia, Russia, Russia" lie like the entire investigation into him was a hoax is only one of many things that should disqualify him for office. Not just that he's lying about the investigation, but because of the revelations of the investigation itself. The reality of the investigation is SO bad for him that he has to just declare an alternate reality where it's all a lie.

The truth though is that 34 people were indicted as a result of the investigation into the Trump campaign embracing Russian support. 8 of those have plead guilty or been convicted.

The reality got much worse though, as many of those from Trump's campaign were convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury and witness tampering. In return for their committing crimes to cover other crimes, Trump went ahead and granted them pardons... It's beyond imagination.

That's not the bottom though, there is no bottom. Michael Flynn was one of Trump's loyalists that plead guilty to perjury to protect Trump and thus earned a pardon from Trump. After being pardoned Flynn came back to show his continued loyalty to Trump, and after Trump lost the election, promoted a plan for Trump to declare a national emergency, implement martial law, declare the results of the election irrecoverable and initiate a new election vote this time conducted by the military.

So on seeing that plan promoted, Trump invited Flynn to the Whitehouse to advising sessions on handling the election loss...

There is NO bottom to where Trump will go. He's already a convicted felon, and has yet to be convicted or tried for the most egregious of the things he's done.

AND it is also try that he annihilated Biden in this debate.

Doesn't make him a better president.

Biden Brings Felon On Stage

newtboy says...

lol. You claim CNN states Biden lost but post a clip from the NYPost of him “hitting back” on his 36 felony convictions (and 50+ more charges) by pointing to Hunter’s 3. WHAT!? Does he know who the candidate is? 😂
Biden lost the fight for live fact checking, but that’s all he lost. Trump was his normal lying and ranting self. Tomorrow’s fact checking will show 90% of his statements were lies, but that doesn’t matter to you, we know, because you share his (total lack of) morals.
The choice is thriving democracy or crumbling despotic monarchy, and that’s no choice.
Biden wasn’t my choice for 2020, he wouldn’t be my first choice in 2024, but given the choice between him and a convicted felon whose second term will be a vitriolic and violent attack against half of America and may never end, I and tens of millions more would vote for Biden if he was drooling in his oatmeal incapable of speaking, and I’m certain it would be better for the country.

So sad…just grasping at nothing in desperation. It’s ok…we all know who you’re voting for, and we all know better.

bobknight33 said:

CNN states Biden lost the debate. Even they turned on Joe.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

The economic numbers are so amazing that the world bank recently said the American booming economy is almost single handedly stabilizing the entire world economy.

Your dream of a failing economy like your convicted felon and rapist candidate and disgraced ex president has failed, the economy has never been better. The market continues to hit record highs, unemployment remains at record lows, inflation is at zero for months, wages are still rising fast. You can’t lie fast or convincing enough to contradict the reality that the Biden economy is the envy of the world.

BTW- the deficit under Biden has been half what it was under the felon…$4.3 T vs $9 T…with $2.2 T being infrastructure investments in America. $2 T in deficit reduction under Biden vs $440 billion.

Many Americans have not yet recovered from 2020 when your guy drove us off a cliff, crashed the market, destroyed jobs, completely erased the economy to a negative gdp, ignored long term supply chain failures, and oversaw the biggest jump in crime rates in my lifetime, etc.

Suck it!

Surprising, but fun! Your team lost in the Supreme Court…red states cannot sue the federal government when the fed asks social media companies to police dangerous lies. Red state governors had sued the Biden administration because Twitter downgraded their disinformation campaigns, fighting all the way to the top to protect their right to lie to you without contradiction, correction, or comeuppance. They lost. Not good news for your guys campaigns that rely on misinformation to mislead voters into voting for them.

Suck it again. 😂

Sadly the maga court just legalized bribery so long as the payment comes AFTER the corrupt act. No surprise, two of the six were guilty of bribery under the near 40 year old anti corruption law they struck down. America can suck it again, says maga.
The same corrupt court accidentally released their decision about emergency abortions in Idaho. Alito again? The corruption and incompetence increase daily.

bobknight33 said:

If The economic numbers are all amazing, then why are so many Americans BROKE?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh oh….leaked transcripts of the felon’s lawyer’s notes show he knew for certain having the stolen classified documents was a crime and repeatedly tried to get his layer to go along with lying to the DOJ and saying repeatedly “wouldn’t it be better if there are no documents” “shouldn’t we just say there are no documents” “wouldn’t turning over the documents open me up to prosecution or more searches”.
Blows up his “I didn’t know stealing classified state secrets and keeping them in rooms open to the public and lying to theDOJ and FBI about it was wrong” defense…not that that would be a defense in any unbiased court…but he’s got Cannon so it’s a tossup.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Sucker!
Proof at 1:15


Another fake, just like the fake of President Biden pausing mid sit where the audio was altered so you don’t hear he was listening to an announcement to see if he should remain standing…or the Normandy fake where the paratrooper was removed from the clip to make it appear he wanders alone into a field because he’s lost, not talking to a paratrooper who just landed.

You have to produce these fake videos because the real President Biden is in good shape mentally and physically unlike the diapered felon who meth rages every morning at 3am and needs his team to spend every day doing damage control over his tantrums, lies, and ridiculous accusations that are always admissions (he has no imagination so when he wants to make a claim about someone he just thinks of something he’s been attacked for or that he knows is wrong and accuses them).

Democrats don’t have to fake videos or make up lies about the Felon, his actions are disgusting and illegal enough, actually so bad many won’t believe he could really be so disgusting, such a long term public pedophile, such a business fraud, so incredibly unreligious, so outrageously anti democratic, and ALWAYS SO HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

This felon and rapist is you guy, this you pick…he is the absolute best maga has, and he will soon be a prisoner. Note, this means you see yourself as worse than a felonious rapist, business fraud, charity fraud, constant liar, and public pedophile because you obviously see him as your better.

If you were a real man with any honor, you would kill your self for being such a worthless tool spreading these anti American lies, but you are an infant that doesn’t understand the concept of honor or truth so you think nothing of it.

PS- Convicted felon Bannon is being sent to Danberry…not a club Fed prison! This is because he has other cases. Who else has other cases but is about to be sentenced to Rykers Island? 😂

PPS- Gaetz is now under investigation for sex with minors and child sex trafficking, drug use (and transportation across state lines so drug trafficking), abusing his authority to dispense political favors to friends, and obstruction of official investigations (including this one). I guess that means he’s ineligible to run for office just like Hillary was, right? 😂

Bonus- Trump Media is in total freefall, dropping another $5 to hit $30 this morning and still plunging. I think it burned through all its cash reserves and may fold soon, bringing it to $0. Congratulations, another total failure. Maybe he can get another savior loan from another Russian oligarch through the Dominican Republic like last time…oh wait, Russia has no money thanks to strong Biden sanctions that have completely decimated their economy…sorry Charlie!
His properties values are also plunging because his name is toxic, so much his bond may become invalid again!

bobknight33 said:

Do you really think the Dem party wont replace Biden?



bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂 Jr is telling you idiots that his Daddy (he thinks it’s his daddy anyway) isn’t on the “Epstein list”. 😂

I bet you take his word for it.
Truth is no one else is featured as often or as prominently as Doe 174, (DJT). A minimum of 7 trips on the Lolita express to kiddie rape island (and recall he had multiple planes himself, and absolutely took them to kiddie rape island repeatedly as well, and flew with Epstein on the Trump plane often as well, proven with flight logs), he’s accused by multiple Epstein victims of rape, and they were all under legal age, some under puberty age…all told “you look like my daughter”.
Epstein rode on Donald’s plane too, with Donald and girls as young as 15.
Trump was on the SS Lolita too, the party barge full of 14 year old girls and 60+ year old millionaires.
Multiple Epstein victims were referred to him by Donald, told Epstein would give them a better job than they had at Mar a Lago.
Recall, he still wishes Maxwell well, after her conviction for facilitating the sexual abuse of young girls. She must have serious dirt on him.
Donald is on audio recording talking about forcing his way into the dressing room of 15 (and younger) girls to leer at them nude.
Donald is on video lusting after his daughter a few hundred times, talking about wanting to have sex with her, etc.

Thanks for the reminder Jr. “Not on the Epstein list”….MOTHER FUCKER HE IS THE EPSTEIN LIST! 😂

The fake “black church” event was hilarious….not a single black parishioner in the crowd because he RENTED a black church and (criminal) pastor, he wasn't welcomed by the church goers, he had a crowd of 300+- elderly white people wearing “blacks for Trump” shirts….they’re already claiming there were 8000 people in that max occupancy of 350 church (it wasn’t even full). There was literally only one single local black person there, and 5-6 they paid to come from elsewhere. The service was a worship of the felon, not God, not Jesus, but the one you put above them both, Don. Convicted felon Trump’s outreach to the black community doesn’t include the black community…he left that photo op to go to a rally by Charlie Kirk, a massive blatant racist, where on stage they flew flags saying “WHITE BOY SUMMER” and other racist, slogans.
The black community is insulted by the idea that such a sad little show will make them forget how he treated them for 4 years.

Meanwhile President Biden went to the black church that was attacked by a white supremacist in 2015 and prayed with its actual congregation.

BTW- Records prove that in 1927 Fred Trump Sr (The convict’s grandfather) was arrested for being a KKK member who was part of a racist KKK riot of 1000 racists that attacked police in Queens in an attempted race riot.
His son and grandson paid millions for racist redlining.
He refused to denounce the KKK or David Duke…he actually pretended he didn’t know who David Duke or the KKK was (hint- remember the meetings you went to with grandpa where everyone dressed as ghosts and talked about the inhuman animals and what must be done about them? Duke is their leader.)….Mr. ”I see nothing…I KNOW NOTHING!”

Literally everything you morons do is a fraud.

EVERYTHING

BTW- Crime stats are out. Dark Brandon is better at fighting crime than the entire Justice League put together. 25% drop.
Economic numbers are insanely good, best in the world, constant record high stock markets, low unemployment, high wage gains, dropping inflation…as long as you don’t have antixwoke stocks the market is BOOMING! Sorry DJT stockholders.. 😂

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Atlanta Democrat sentenced to seven years for $15M fraud

newtboy says...

They certainly seem happy about this. I wonder why?

So, she, like hundreds of thousands of others, defrauded the Convicted felon Trump’s completely unregulated and set up to defraud PPP welfare for business owners scheme that cost taxpayers $800 BILLION and in the end failed completely because it did not save any of the jobs it was intended to save.

Only one year for every two million she stole…not nearly enough. I sure hope they go after them all with the same zeal, starting with Manly Traitor Greene who never repaid nearly $200k for her “business” that seems to only have employed her and her husband, she refuses to acknowledge any questions about it. Lock them all up.

Unlike Maga, reasonable people understand party affiliation doesn’t erase criminality. The fact that she’s a Democrat to me means she’s slightly more criminal, because she’s not even in the party of criminality and convicts she’s in the party that supports law and order equally applied to everyone.

lol! “Is the candidate responsible for knowing where donations come from?”
They better hope not or their favorite candidate is in such deeper shit than 34 felony convictions! He’s absolutely taken millions from hostile foreign powers (like Russia and China and the Saudis) laundered through lackeys like Giuliani and Kushner without disclosing it, and has been caught over and over and over with undeniable paper trails. If the candidate has some responsibility, he shirked it with gusto. 😂

What an ending line….”Hypocrisy is not a crime but fraud certainly is”… seems they forgot to add “unless it’s convicted felon DJT committing that fraud to the tune of HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS…then prosecution is a witch hunt”….they better be glad hypocrisy isn’t a crime, because they’re guilty daily.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂 You keep claiming you are doing excellent, have become rich raking in all that Tesla cash and DJT earnings…and the skyrocketing value of your Convicted Felon Trump NFTs and golden sneakers. I guess that was all bullshit? 😂

Many are broke because they did work for convicted felon DJT and he stiffed them on the bill, putting them out of business. Some are broke because they gave everything to convicted felon, rapist, and business fraud disgraced convict Trump or invested in him and he gives nothing back EVER. Some are because the 2020-21 Trump recession hurt them badly and they haven’t recovered fully yet. Some because they divested in anything “woke” before realizing they now own nothing but worthless anti woke stocks, some because they went “all in” on Tesla as you suggested right before it crashed and burned, some because they attacked the federal government and their defense is expensive. Companies continuing to reap record profits doesn’t help. Derp.

Most Americans are doing quite well, I am, WAY better than during the Trump slump when my investments made under 5% per year, this year I’m already over 10% growth in under 6 months…sadly some only watch propaganda outlets that hammer in daily that they aren’t doing well, don’t trust economic numbers, your paycheck, jobs numbers, your bank account, the gdp, or your recent purchase history, or $3 gas, just trust them you are poor. Sadly they also don’t grasp that they were infinitely worse off in 2020, your memories were wiped front to back, full wipe, to forget the entire last year of the last administration, forget the negative gdp, the millions of lost jobs, the hundreds of thousands of closing businesses, the empty shelves, the fear mongering, the race riots, the million + deaths, the skyrocketing inflation from outrageous and useless spending sprees (like the PPP free money handout program) ballooning the debt, and have been told to not believe the amazing gdp, 13+ million jobs created, hundreds of thousands of new businesses, plunging inflation, record market numbers, etc.

THIS IS MAGA REALITY….


Also “We are here in Sunset Park to worship the greatest president in U.S. history.” Convicted felon Trump’s introduction at his cult meeting….i mean political rally.

bobknight33 said:

If The economic numbers are all amazing, then why are so many Americans BROKE?

Girl rages over ice cream prices

Reefie says...

Hah fair point!

I still think the video is an excellent demonstration of the attitude divide between those who grow up on council estates and don't make any effort to become better versions of themselves, compared to those who come from the same background and strive to overcome life's hurdles

ant said:

More like the world and life.

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