If only someone were here to play devil's advocate (heh) and supply a bit of biblical scripture...

(Let's see if the beetlejuice effect works)

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>> ^spoco2:

TB really... REALLY likes Johnny Depp doesn't he?
Man. I long for the days of Beetlejuice!


Michael Keaton as Willy Wonka? Couldn't have been any worse than Depp.

TB really... REALLY likes Johnny Depp doesn't he?

Man. I long for the days of Beetlejuice!

Last original film Tim Burton directed? Seriously, what was it? Beetlejuice?

This one does look awful, but it looks trailer awful. You know, when they have a trailer that looks like every other rubbish trailer and doesn't really represent the film?

Personally, I can't help but picture him as Otho, the interior decorator from Beetlejuice. The one so convinced of his superiority that he practically oozes slime without any ghostly help.

>> ^shuac:

I'm a tad late but...
Is anyone else like me, in that...when I read any of Choggie's posts, I can't help but read it with a pirate voice?
Or has this point already been made?


Stupid quoting system! Why does it do this?

I really disliked this film. Terrible storytelling, weak characters, and an over reliance on CGI. It's the George Lucas Phantom Menace syndrome: Give a director a $200,000,000 budget, and they spend all their time figuring out how to spend all that money, rather than focussing on creating a worthwhile piece of art.

Johnny Depp's Mad hatter, whom gets almost as much screen time as the bland lead, consists of drag queen make up and an effeminate voice, which occasionally shifts to a Braveheart brogue. It comes across more as self indulgent mugging from an actor who has received no directorial guidance than any kind of actual insanity.

In Burton's earlier years, when his budgets were a fraction of what they are now, he told truly imaginative stories, with great characters and heartfelt performances. Movies like Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood and The Nightmare Before Christmas were cinematic masterpieces in my opinion.

The scene above is the precise moment when my disappointment turned to contempt. Issy and I actually turned to each other in the theater to verify that it was not a hallucination. (/disappointed fan-boy rant)

If you are reading this Tim Burton, here's your assignment, should you decide to take it:

Make a film for under 10 million dollars. You are not allowed to use your wife or Johnny Depp as cast members. The script must be original and not an adaptation of some previously existing work. Use models, stop motion, or whatever other effects you like, but keep the CGI to a bare minimum.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Beetlejuice, Lydia, ending' to 'Beetlejuice, Lydia, ending, winona ryder, wynona ryder' - edited by doogle

According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_di_Lammermoor#Trivia, it's been used in;

The "Lucia Sextet" (Chi mi frena in tal momento?) was recorded in 1908 by Enrico Caruso, Marcella Sembrich, Antonio Scotti, Marcel Journet, Barbara Severina, and Francesco Daddi, (Victor single-sided 70036) and released at the price of $7.00, earning it the title of "The Seven-Dollar Sextet". The film The Great Caruso incorporates a scene featuring a performance of this sextet.

The "Lucia Sextet" melody is best known to some from its use by the American slapstick comedy team the Three Stooges in their short films Micro-Phonies and Squareheads of the Round Table, sung in the latter with the lyrics "Oh, Elaine, can you come out tonight...." But the melody is used most dramatically in Howard Hawks' gangster classic "Scarface": Tony Camonte (Paul Muni) whistles "Chi mi frena?" in the film's opening sequence, as he guns down a ganglord boss he has been assigned to protect.

It has also been used in Warner Brothers cartoons: Long-Haired Hare, sung by the opera singer (Bugs Bunny's antagonist); Book Revue, sung by the wolf antagonist; and in Back Alley Oproar, sung by a choir full of Sylvesters, the cat.

The "Lucia Sextet" melody also figures in two scenes from the 2006 film The Departed, directed by Martin Scorsese. In one scene, Jack Nicholson's character is shown at a performance of "Lucia di Lammermoor", and the music on the soundtrack is from the sextet. Later in the film, Nicholson's cell phone ringtone is the sextet melody.

The Sextet is also featured during a scene from the 1986 comedy film, The Money Pit.

In the children's book "The Cricket in Times Square," Chester Cricket chirps the tenor part to the "Lucia Sextet" as the encore to his farewell concert, literally stopping traffic in the process.

An aria from the "mad scene," "Il dolce suono" (from the 3rd Act), was re-popularized when it was featured in the film The Fifth Element in a performance by the alien diva Plavalaguna (voiced by Albanian soprano Inva Mula-Tchako and played onscreen by French actress Maïwenn Le Besco). A loose remake of this film version of the song was covered by Russian pop singer Vitas.

The "mad scene" was also used in the first episode of the anime series Gankutsuou (in place of L'Italiana in Algeri which was the opera used in that scene in The Count of Monte Cristo).

The "mad scene" aria, as sung by Inva Mula-Tchako, was used in an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent involving the murder of a young violinist by her opera singer mother (who performs the song right after the murder).

The "mad scene" was released as a music video by Russian male soprano Vitas in 2006.

Among other selections from the opera, the "mad scene", "Verranno a te sull'aure", and "Che facesti?" feature prominently in the 1983 Paul Cox film Man of Flowers, especially "Verranno a te sull'aure," which accompanies a striptease in the film's opening scene.

The opera is mentioned in the novels The Count of Monte Cristo, Madame Bovary and Where Angels Fear to Tread and was reputedly one of Tolstoy's favorites.

"Regnava nel silenzio" accompanies the scene in Beetlejuice in which Lydia (Winona Ryder) composes a suicide note.

A portion of the opera is also used in a key scene of the film The Fifth Element, written and directed by Luc Besson.

I'm gonna promote this very soon.. it's awesome!
From the youtube desciption:
FILMS:

00:00 Little shop of horrors
00:14 The Thing
00:16 Jurassic Park/ Poltergeist/ King Kong (1933)/ The return of the Jedi/ Aliens (Cameron)
00:17 Alien (Scott)
00:19 Jaws
00:20 King Kong (1933)
00:22 Ghostbusters
00:24 Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1956)
00:26 The Fellowship of the Ring
00:27 Anaconda
00:28 An American werewolf in London
00:29 Clash of the Titans
00:31 Beowulf
00:32 Ghostbusters
00:34 Dragonslayer
00:36 Predator
00:38 Alien (Scott)
00:40 Dune
00:42 Gremlins
00:44 The Fellowship of the Ring
00:46 Pan's Labyrinth
00:47 Clash of the Titans
00:49 Aliens (Cameron)
00:51 Beetlejuice
00:53 King Kong (1933)
00:55 Jurassic Park
00:56 Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1956)
00:59 Jurassic Park
00:59-01:00 Critters
01:01 Dragonslayer
01:03 Willow
01:05 Them!
01:07 Starship Troopers
01:08 Men in Black
01:09 Arachnophobia
01:10 Jaws
01:11 Tremors
01:12 The Empire strikes back
01:13 Beowulf
01:14 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
01:15 The Return of the Jedi
01:16 Dragonslayer
01:18 Gremlins
01:20 The Host
01:21 Ghostbusters
01:22 Bram Stoker's Dracula
01:23 Gremlins 2
01:24 King Kong (2005)
01:25 Tremors
01:26 Aliens (Cameron)
01:27 The Empire strikes back
01:27 Clash of the Titans
01:28 Hellboy
01:29 Lake Placid
01:30 The Fellowship of the Ring
01:31 An American werewolf in London
01:32 Alien (Scott)
01:33 From Dusk till Dawn
01:34 Krull
01:35 Jason and the Argonauts
01:36 Little Shop of Horrors
01:37 The Army of Darkness
01:38 The Fellowship of the Ring
01:39 Time Machine
01:40 The Attack of the Clones
01:41 Howard the Duck
01:43 End of days
01:44 Aliens (Cameron)
01:45 The Attack of the Clones
01:46 Jurassic Park
01:47 Clash of the Titans
01:48 The Relic
01:49 Pitch Black
01:49 Resident Evil
01:50 The Princess Bride
01:51 Beetlejuice
01:52 Jurassic Park
01:52 Ghostbusters
01:53 Evolution
01:54 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
01:55 Gremlins 2
01:55 Ewok adventure
01:56 Ghostbusters
01:57 Anaconda
01:58 Creature from the Black Lagoon
01:58 Starship Troopers
01:59 The Return of the King
02:00 The Fellowship of the Ring
02:01 The Blob (1988)
02:02 King Kong (2005)
02:03 Deep rising
02:04 Mimic
02:05 Little Shop of Horrors
02:06 Mars Attacks!
02:07 King Kong (2005)
02:08 Cloverfield
02:09 20000 leagues under the sea (1954)
02:10 Aliens (Cameron)
02:11 Beetlejuice
02:11 Anaconda
02:12 Bram Stoker's Dracula
02:12 Doom
02:13 Independence Day
02:14 Jeepers Creepers 2
02:14 Lake Placid
02:15 Clash of the Titans
02:15 An American werewolf in London
02:16 Cat people
02:17 Evil Dead 2
02:17 The Thing
02:18 The Fly (1986)
02:19 The Blob (1988)
02:20 The Thing
02:21 Legend
02:22 The Twilight Zone
02:23 Aliens (Cameron)
02:24 The Twilight Zone
02:24 Evil Dead II
02:25 The Descent
02:26 Poltergeist
02:27 Aliens (Cameron)
02:28 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
02:29 Beowulf
02:29 Jaws
02:30 The Return of the King
02:30 Deep Rising
02:31 The Faculty
02:32 The Host
02:33 Anaconda
02:36 Evolution
02:38 Cloverfield
02:40 Godzilla
02:41 The Two Towers
02:42 Cloverfield
02:43 Beowulf
02:45 King Kong (1933)
02:46 Howard the Duck
02:48 The Host
02:49 Jaws
02:51 The Return of the Jedi
02:53 Jurassic Park
02:55 Men in Black
02:56 Willow
02:58 King Kong (2005)
02:59 Deep Rising
03:01 Anaconda
03:02 Little Shop of Horros
03:05 Cloverfield

^What?! But he, Burton...Jack, they had...Beetlejuice...shit you're right

whoa. That's totally the scene that gave me nightmares as a kid from Beetlejuice. whew. I'm impressed.

Yes, but more importantly, where do Beetlejuice and Eric the Midget stand on this topic?

I totally recognize that music... ah lol. Beetlejuice. rofl. nice.

In addition to his work with Tim Burton, Elfman has written scores for dozens of other films including:

* Forbidden Zone (Richard Elfman, 1980)
* Back to School, (Alan Metter, 1986)
* Wisdom (Emilio Estevez, Robert Wise, 1986)
* Big Top Pee-wee (Randal Kleiser, 1988)
* Midnight Run (Martin Brest, 1988)
* Scrooged (Richard Donner, 1988)
* Darkman (Sam Raimi, 1990)
* Dick Tracy (Warren Beatty, 1990)
* Nightbreed (Clive Barker, 1990)
* Army of Darkness (Sam Raimi, 1993) (theme)
* Sommersby (Jon Amiel, 1993)
* Black Beauty (Caroline Thompson, 1994)
* Dolores Claiborne (Taylor Hackford, 1995)
* Dead Presidents (Hughes Brothers, 1995)
* To Die For (Gus Van Sant, 1995)
* The Frighteners (Peter Jackson, 1996)
* Freeway (Matthew Bright, 1996)
* Mission: Impossible (Brian De Palma, 1996)
* Good Will Hunting (Gus Van Sant, 1997)
* Men in Black (Barry Sonnenfeld, 1997)
* A Simple Plan (Sam Raimi, 1998)
* Proof of Life (Taylor Hackford, 1999)
* Chicago (Rob Marshall, 2002) (The instrumental pieces "After Midnight" and "Roxie's Suite")
* Spider-Man (Sam Raimi, 2002)
* Red Dragon (Brett Ratner, 2002)
* Hulk (Ang Lee, 2003)
* Spider-Man 2 (Sam Raimi, 2004)
* Deep Sea 3D (Howard Hall, 2006)
* Nacho Libre (Jared Hess, 2006) (Ramses Suite)
* Charlotte's Web (Gary Winick, 2006)
* Meet the Robinsons (Steve Anderson, 2007)
* Spider-Man 3 (Sam Raimi, 2007)

He has also written the theme music for several television series, including:

* Pee-wee's Playhouse (some episodes) (1986)
* Sledge Hammer! (1986)
* The Simpsons (1989)
* Beetlejuice (1989)
* Tales from the Crypt (1989)
* The Flash (1990)
* Batman: The Animated Series (1992)
* Dilbert (1999)
* Desperate Housewives (2004)
* Point Pleasant (2005)

Here is Elfman's filmography:

[2006] Charlotte's Web
Deep Sea 3D [IMAX Movie]
Nacho Libre
Serenada Schizophrana [Concert Work]
[2005] Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
[2004] Spider-Man 2
[2003] Big Fish
Hulk
[2002] Chicago
Home Video: The Making of Mad Matt
Men in Black II
Red Dragon
Spider-Man
[2001] Heartbreakers
Mazer World
Novocaine
Planet of the Apes
Spy Kids
[2000] The Family Man
Proof of Life
The World of Stainboy
[1999] Anywhere But Here
"Dilbert" [TV Series]
Instinct
My Favorite Martian
Sleepy Hollow
[1998] A Civil Action
Modern Vampyres
A Simple Plan
[1997] Flubber
Good Will Hunting
Men In Black
Scream 2
[1996] Extreme Measures
Freeway
The Frighteners
Mars Attacks!
Mission: Impossible
[1995] Dead Presidents
Dolores Claiborne
Little Demons [Demo]
To Die For
[1994] Black Beauty
Shrunken Heads
[1993] Army Of Darkness
Sommersby
Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas
[1992] Article 99
Batman Returns
[1991] Pure Luck
[1990] Darkman
Dick Tracy
Edward Scissorhands
"The Flash" [TV Series]
Nightbreed
[1989] Batman
"Beetlejuice: The Animated Series" [TV Series]
"The Simpsons" [TV Series]
"Tales from the Crypt" [TV Series]
Three Fugitives
[1988] Beetlejuice
Big Top Pee Wee
Hot To Trot
Midnight Run
Scrooged
[1987] Summer School
[1986] Back To School
"Fast Times" [TV Series]
"Pee-Wee's Playhouse" [TV Series]
"Sledge Hammer!" [TV Series] (theme)
Wisdom
[1985] "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" [TV Series]
"Amazing Stories" [TV Series]
Pee Wee's Big Adventure
[1980] Forbidden Zone