search results matching tag: Ambiguity

» channel: learn

go advanced with your query
Search took 0.000 seconds

    Videos (45)     Sift Talk (12)     Blogs (4)     Comments (384)   

Fascinating autism test for "theory of the mind" in children

ulysses1904 says...

My comments just happened to use computer users as an example, as I see them every day. I specifically said I'm not referring to any lack of experience with computers, or any particular subject. I'm saying some people naturally get it and some people don't get it, when viewing things through others' perspectives.

Some people realize that if they just refer to "it", that is potentially ambiguous to someone who wasn't "there", and they realize that someone has a different perspective that doesn't match theirs, and they need to be clear and include more information.

Whereas other people who were "there" refer to "it" and see the object in their mind's eye, but don't seem to realize that "it" could refer to any number of things to someone who wasn't "there". And that's just one fucking pronoun in one fucking sentence.

And then you have to drag out the pertinent information with 20 questions. Nothing to do with computers or mental defects.

SquidCap said:

Hmm, i don't know if it is that.. I see this all the time too (i tutor and do support to one 3D design software). Usually it is more about the person not knowing the right terms; they don't know what questions to ask or how to identify the problem, the steps that we "computer literate" know to do when we encounter a problem.

Fortunately we have screencaps, allthou often you need to teach them how to make them. I usually try to be thorough, even thou it means spending a lot of time explaining, trying to show them the way for them to solve the problem..

But then again, my "clients" are not totally illiterate which makes it a bit easier but then again, 3D design has very special concepts and terms you need to know; you just can't say "your UV mapping is screwed" when they hardly know what a vertex is.. So you have to explain the very basics of it to solve a problem that takes about a minute if they would send me their models.. I do make them all watch about an hour of videos and read few pages, very often they figure it out once they understand the logic and know the basic terms; they can use google to find it out then.. Teach a man to fish type of strategy.

But it's not that they have some mental defect, they just don't know how the freaking machine works, they have no other words to use but vague, totally gibberish. And they are afraid of using some term they are not 100% sure if it's the right one, a bit like talking a strange language.

Fascinating autism test for "theory of the mind" in children

ulysses1904 says...

I've always said this "Sally-Anne" scenario doesn't just reveal something about the autistic mind. I see it in people every day, particularly as an IT tech. Some people just don't have an intrinsic understanding that others are not seeing the images in their head when they are describing something, using vague pronouns and ambiguous terms that make sense in their head. They are incapable of "reading my mind" to know that I can't read their mind.

They don't seem to understand that others were not in the room experiencing their computer problems along with them, and then act put out while I ask 20 questions to ask them to describe what the hell is going on. Usually with an impatient air of "why am I asking all of these redundant questions? "

And it has nothing to do with being computer literate, and everything to do with not recognizing that I don't share your perspective without some more info. I work with many techno-phobes who don't have to be coached like that.

BTW, repeating"I can't log in, it won't let me" has been used to describe countless scenarios, you might as well ask me to guess which card you just picked out of a deck.

Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about

draak13 says...

Actually, @ChaosEngine's comparison to online banking is exactly analogous to this situation. Her pics were hacked from her account. Thus, the day that your account is hacked and your identity is stolen...why are you online banking? That's a great way to get all of your money stolen. You really should have known better. If you end up homeless with no money, it really was your fault for not protecting yourself better.

You and others are correct that it does indeed present some level of risk to take nude photos of yourself at all, but all things in life present risk. If you don't want bad things to happen to you, maybe you shouldn't ever leave your house, log on to the internet, or talk to anyone. Of course, that's wildly unrealistic. The way that you present yourself makes it seem like you're callously taking this argument too far.

In contrast, @SDGundamX has taken a pleasantly moderate viewpoint on this, and I feel more enlightened from reading his posts and considering the moral ambiguity. I just wish he didn't get snarky at the end, and be 'dismayed' that people would criticize those who take the opposing stance =P.

All of the arguments aside, I appreciated her rebellion against this negative situation, and I hope that this tasteful video does good things for her.

Jerykk said:

Again, this isn't about rights or principles. It's about reality. We live a world where many people don't care about your rights or the law. If you give them the opportunity, these people will exploit you. If you don't want to be exploited, you need to avoid creating such opportunities whenever it is practical to do so. Ideally, we wouldn't have to do this. Ideally, everyone would share the same principles and values and we would all coexist in harmony. But that's not the world we live in.

Also, your analogies are pretty silly. Sending nude pics of yourself to someone is in no way comparable to using online banking. Banks have exponentially more security than whatever messaging or e-mail service you're using to send pictures, not to mention that the person receiving the pics can do whatever they want with them.

Sia - Elastic Heart

TheFreak says...

@oohlalasassoon
This is what I really enjoy about the video. It's emotionally powerful but it's ambiguous. So we each project our own experiences onto the performance. The artist's intention is nothing more than an interesting footnote.

I also saw a struggling relationship between a father and daughter. For me it was about the changing relationship as she grows older. That's a deep personal experience for me and the video made me feel all the feels. That's why it's an amazing video, because it evokes your own life experience and whatever you're seeing in the performance, you're feeling it hard.

These two performers obviously had a great time making this video. Objectively, there is nothing inappropriate going on between them. If someone is seeing something sinister going on there then they brought It with them. And that's ok. That's your own experience. Feel it.

The Pale Blue Dot - THE SAGAN SERIES

A10anis says...

Seriously, if you are unable to read between the lines and understand even rudimentary irony. If everything has to be so precisely worded that no ambiguity of thought, or meaning, can enter your thought process, maybe you should not comment until you can do so. Or maybe all you crave is argument for arguments sake. Whatever the case, I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain a comment which is, to the vast majority, self explanatory.

enoch said:

did you just advocate indoctrination and brainwashing of children?
trading religious doctrine for secular doctrine?
while one may be more attractive to you than the other..it is STILL:brainwashing and indoctrination!

how about we step away from those practices and instead actually teach children how to utilize information in a positive fashion.give them the techniques to analyze,criticize and formulate their own conclusions?

you know...
the ability to be a free thinker.
how about that?
can we do that?
i think thats a much better idea.

/drops mic
*christ on a stick..brainwashing kids..........cant be serious.....

Car Parks on Pedestrian Crossing. Pedestrian Gets Revenge

MichaelL says...

Not quite what I said but re-reading it, I can see the ambiguity.

speechless said:

Yeah, I was with you until you said he should get mowed down.

Quoting the Book of Futurama:
S02E11 : 2ACV06

"Fry, remember when I told you about always ending your stories a sentence earlier?"

Automated Never Ending War - Fortress

rancor says...

Uhm, am I the only one who still doesn't get it? What is a "cassette bomb submunition"? Those words don't seem to belong together. Still, I almost prefer the ending to be a little bit ambiguous.

poolcleaner said:

It was plainly obvious.

Pixar short - blue umbrella - Pixar is back!

nock says...

I think it's neat that despite having red/pink and blue characteristics, the human characters are of ambiguous gender (as are the umbrellas), so it could be 2 men, 2 women or a man and a woman.

Automata trailer

ChaosEngine says...

@AeroMechanical, actually I'm with you. I seriously doubt the Foundation stories would work on film or even in a long form mini series.

The problem with a lot of sci-fi literature is that it doesn't conform to the standard 3 act movie structure. There's often an ambiguous ending which doesn't neatly resolve (like real life!). Asimov, Clarke, Banks, Reynolds, Morgan (to name a few of my favourites) fit this pattern.

There are two things happening, IMO:
1. The journey really is more important than the destination. It's about the story, not the outcome.
2. In some cases, story above character (Asimov and Clarke in particular). The idea is more important than the puny humans caught up in it.

Both of these are hard for studio execs (and to be fair, mainstream audiences) to grasp.

The "Throw Like a Girl" Myth | MythBusters

vil says...

How is this a myth? What is the supposed content of this myth? And the video? Some people throw like girls, then throw even more like girls with their other hand. Then this lady comes up who can throw and is commended for throwing like a man. What?

If you are a man and someone says you throw or run like a girl everyone understands what that means. It means they want to find out if you also fight like a girl.

If you are a girl and you do something like a girl - that doesnt actually merit conversation. Or insult. Ambiguity overload. Could mean anything.

Throwing with your left hand. That has more to do with your favored hand and favored eye than practice and technique. My younger son is right handed but has a dominant left eye. He can hit a target equally well with either hand, same "form". He can probably throw a bit farther with his right hand but not by much. Not so good trying to aim a gun - try holding a weapon in your right hand and aim with your left eye. He shoots like a girl (yes I know there are many girls who can shoot) but he can throw like a man with both hands. For basketball, tennis, ice-hockey, soccer - very useful to be ambidextrous. Probably also skiing, snowboarding, surfing, because you care less about which way you are turning.

Why would you want to take practice and technique out of the equation anyway - throwing like a girl is not just about strength, it´s about attitude and motivation and will to compete. And technique.

And girls very obviously have different techniques to men in sports that rely a lot on strength and aggresivity. Some girls practice with men and apply masculine techniques, others try to find their own way. No one tells Sharapova that she hits the ball like a girl - but that is certainly exactly what she does, compared to Nadal, no insult intended.

Andy Murray now has a female coach, I am sure he will be very careful not to appear to be hitting the ball like a girl.

If you have the same equipment and strength matters you cant help having a different technique.

If all that matters is skill (lets say youre throwing a light ball a short distance at a target) I would expect not much gender difference.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Climate Change Debate

Aussie builders shock public with loud empowering statements

lucky760 says...

"Hahaha. It's so funny that these guys are making enlightened, meaningful statements that appeal to a greater society and make other people feel encouraged, because it's all bullshit because they're hungry, and really they're a bunch of sexist misogynist pigs."

That's definitely how it's most easily interpreted and how I interpreted it, but @harlequinn is probably right that Snickers intended the message to be:

"Normally these kind, broad-minded, gentle fellows are considerate and thoughtful like this, but you don't want to know how they are when they haven't had a Snickers."

If that's really their message, they need to make it a fuck of a lot more obvious.

Or maybe they meant for it to be ambiguous so they can appeal to both kinds of people. Quite the politicians you are, Snickers.

enoch (Member Profile)

bcglorf says...

Hello again,

Just commented to a video and later noticed it was one of yours. Would've just commented to you instead had I noticed first. I have to say I still don't entirely understand where you come from in all this. Plainly and rightly you mistrust any American claims of humanitarian concern. However, in my view you seem to be misreading Obama's cues. If anything he's appeared very reluctant to go into Syria, as it'd be domestically very unpopular. As far as the Kissinger type pushers in America go, seeing Al Qaida sponsored rebels bleeding themselves out against Russian and Iranian backed Syrian military forces and even Hezbollah forces seems like a dream come true. I can hardly see cold hearted long game analysts in America wanting anything but to just grab popcorn and enjoy the show as their enemies mop each other up. I also see Obama's reluctant attitude as exactly what is being read by Assad and Putin in their responses and almost willful scorn for Obama's red line and apparent giddy eagerness to abandon the threats he'd tied to it. I just don't see the eagerness and enthusiasm for a march to war from America that you do. With an agreement to remove chemical weapons from the area, America is freed of the only possible concern it had about anything happening in the area. That seems evidenced by America's seemingly eager acceptance of it, and tacit recognition of Assad's control of the country out into 2014 in order to implement the agreement.

As for the angle I care about, what is your assessment of the UN inspection and their report? Unless you count them to be on the take of Western powers, or duped and stooged within the war zone where somehow America managed to influence them more than Assad I don't see any ambiguity to the findings. Samples from rockets, soil, and victims alike all tested positive for Sarin gas. The rockets found with Sarin on them had Russian engravings and the craters they could project trajectories from pointed towards a Syrian military base. I'm not sure how you reject all of that by pointing at 'counter evidence' gathered and presented solely by Syrian and Iranian sources.

enoch said:

now see?
i understand your position now.
and the inherent logic behind it.

and i totally agree with your russia assertion.
i also agree that power ignores any form of "law" when it deems fit.

and i think a no-fly zone is not a bad idea.

hot damn would you look at us agreein!

older than me huh?
well good for you my man.got the passion of a 25 yr old!
bravo my friend.

Greenwald & Miranda Speak Out on Recent Detainment in UK

Jinx says...

Schedule 7 seems horrendously ambiguous. They can hold you for nine hours without a reasonable suspicion that you are involved in any criminal activity...but it must not be used arbitarily and is solely for determining if somebody is a witch. err I mean if somebody is involved in terrorism.

I'm not really sure how you can detain somebody without suspicion and simultaneously demonstrate that it wasn't arbitrary or unconnected to terrorism. Where exactly is the accountability here. Oh. There isnt any. Hearing the Home Office dismiss this whole affair by saying that it is up to the Police to decide how they use (misuse?) their powers is quite frightening. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Democracy Now! - Obama Makes "False" NSA Surveillance Claims

CreamK says...

Have to double post.. If a US citizen communicates with another US citizen thru a server that resides, let's say France, NSA is fully qualified to read your mails up to the ambiguous point where both parties can be confirmed at 100% certainty to be US citizens. That means literally analyzing the conversation, identifying the participants, checking their status...

In reality, they gather everything up, use algorithms to determine whats "cool" and whats not. By NSAs own accounts the certainty of it's identifying this is somewhere around 51%, just above flipping a coin.



Send this Article to a Friend



Separate multiple emails with a comma (,); limit 5 recipients






Your email has been sent successfully!

Manage this Video in Your Playlists

Beggar's Canyon