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If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779

It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
Richard Henry Lee, letter to Colonel Martin Pickett, March 5, 1786

While the people retain their virtue and vigilence, no administration, by any extreme of wickedness or folly, can very seriously injure the government in the short space of four years.
Abraham Lincoln

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798

Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
Thomas Jefferson

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill

That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise.
Abraham Lincoln

The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.
Martin Luther King Jr.


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Comments to deedub81

MINK says...

kulpims said it best.

i read all the comments.

it's a disgusting situation.


In reply to this comment by deedub81:
If you would have read my previous comment, that's exactly what I said. So go give Kulpims a high five for agreeing with me.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
kulpims! blam! blam! blam! blam! QUADRUPLE HIT SUPERCOMBO!

The nice americans give the nasty americans support to go rape other countries.

What the nice americans SHOULD be saying is "That's illegal. Stop that immediately. People are dying."

but no, they go on and on about "helping" some more.

Fade says...

I take it back :-) You filled in the blanks.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Who says I ate the lie we were all fed?

It doesn't matter to me what it was about or why we went there, Fade. I didn't want our President to send troops there in the first place. I'm more interested in what the Iraqi people want us to do now that we've messed their country up. We should say, "What we've been doing isn't working, we've made a grave mistake. What would you like us to start doing to make thing better? How can we improve your way of life?"

I don't care what Gen. Petraeus has to say, or what the troops that have been there have to say. Frankly, I think their theories are irrelevant. If the American people want so badly for Iraq to be a free country than why don't we let them decide how to handle their own problems (or the problems we've so generously bestowed upon them)? We should offer our assistance only after they ask for our help on their own terms and in the way they decide they want us to help.

How come we haven't heard our Presidential candidates talk like this? Aren't we acting worse than England did to us before we declared our independence? At what point will we admit that we shouldn't be the one's deciding what the best exit strategy is? Shouldn't we ask the Iraqi gov't when and how we should leave. To me, making ultimatums to leave on a certain date, regardless of the consequences, is as bad as ignoring the issues and planning to stay indefinitely.



In reply to this comment by Fade:
I'm sorry to have to be the one to break this to you Deedub, but it was never about Saddam. If it was the war would be over. It was never about "Iraqi Freedom". That's just the lie you were fed to make it pallatable.

ant says...

Couldn't it be vibrations if it was on a low stand or something?


In reply to this comment by deedub81:
What I meant is: The camera is obviously not on the ground. Somebody is holding it, as evidenced by the camera shake. Silly Goose.

In reply to this comment by ant:
Dunno.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
...and the camera is floating? or is the ground moving?

In reply to this comment by ant:

I don't think there is someone behind the camera. Just a camera on the ground.

Irishman says...

Yes, despite being a devout Catholic, and despite trying to remain loyal to the church, Galileo could not ignore the observations showing the sun at the centre of the solar system. The catholic church was of course teaching that the earth is the centre of creation and the universe (Aristotle). They persecuted Galileo. In later years, the catholic church recruited and funded astronomers which was the beginnings of the church using science for persuasion of its esoteric teachings which still goes on to this day. Today it's called Intelligent Design.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Galileo? Seriously?


In reply to this comment by Irishman:
"The Catholic church gets bashed on a lot and I'm never sure why."


The vatican staying silent about the holocaust during WWII,

Still teaching even today that HIV can pass through condoms in AIDS stricken Africa,

Covering up child abuse allegations, for example that of Father John Geoghan, accused of sexually molesting over 100 boys in the Archdiocese of Boston,

The persecution of Galileo, the inventor of the telescope,

The infamous brutal and violating interrogations directed at the suppresion of heresy,

In fact hundreds of years of years of persection, deceit, lies and social control; much of which can be levelled at any religion in the world. Take your pick.

The vatican's position on evolution does not explicity say that evolution is the most likely creation theory, only that "faith and scientific findings regarding the evolution of man's material body are not in conflict, though man is regarded as a 'special creation', and that the existence of God is required to explain the spiritual component of man's origins."

This is always worth saying: Science is a METHOD, not a position.

dystopianfuturetoday says...

I admittedly have not studied up on Ahmad... but I do understand the prejudice that exists in Iran.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
You bring up some good points, but I learned about leaders in the Middle East denying the holocaust a long time ago. It wasn't propaganda, I heard it straight from the horses mouth in speeches and such.

My good friend Sadiq Husseinzada has text books from Pakistan and from Iran. He grew up in Pakistan. I don't read Farsi so I'm taking his word for it, but he told me that they teach that the Holocaust is a debatable event.

The fact that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an Anti-Semite is not in question, nor is the fact that he's kinda cooky. That being said, I don't think we should EVER go into a country to prevent something from happening. That's like arresting somebody that expresses hatred toward 7-11 because you thought they might someday rob one.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
^Even if that were true, it wouldn't make the mass murder of Iranians any less of a holocaust.

The 'wipe Israel off the face of the map' canard this is pure propaganda.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20070120&articleId=4527

I'm going to check on the text book thing and get back to you. Just keep in mind that there is a major propaganda campaign underway to dehumanize Iran and justify an attack. I'd suggest you be more skeptical about government/corporate media claims about Iran.

Reality check. Did you fall for WMD's and yellow cake?

dystopianfuturetoday says...

^Even if that were true, it wouldn't make the mass murder of Iranians any less of a holocaust.

The 'wipe Israel off the face of the map' canard this is pure propaganda.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20070120&articleId=4527

I'm going to check on the text book thing and get back to you. Just keep in mind that there is a major propaganda campaign underway to dehumanize Iran and justify an attack. I'd suggest you be more skeptical about government/corporate media claims about Iran.

Reality check. Did you fall for WMD's and yellow cake?

Hex says...

Well yes, fired. He had an agenda and was fishing for something to proove a point, which obviosly failed because the guy he was interviewing was way smarter than he expected.



In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Fired?

He did the job of a great interviewer: We know exactly how the interviewee feels about his candidate and why he feels that way.
He was able to get specific answers without making the interviewee react negatively to his questions.

In reply to this comment by Hex:
awsome voter
if the interviwer does this for a living he should be fired

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