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hpqp says...

Actually, those ads which depict men as lousy at childrearing and housework are just a subtler form of sexism (towards women, of course, but also men imo), but not misandry. The implied message is "housework and childrearing are the woman's job, only she's good at it", basically regurgitating the same crap from the 50s, but more perniciously.

There's this absolutely pathetic ad for Renault*, for example, which basically says "doing fatherly duties is emasculating, thankfully you've got our car to still be a man." (The slogan in French translates roughly to "so men can still be men", while the Spanish one says "fathers, but men", as if the two were contrary to eachother)

The reason why you won't see misandry in publicity is because, contrary to sexism, it is not an established cultural phenomenon, so advertisers know it will not reach a large audience.


*http://youtu.be/3Syyk7geHTY

In reply to this comment by DerHasisttot:
I do think there is a problem with misandry being accepted. I seldom watch TV, but especially in advertising, men in family-situations are often described as stupid or incapable, while there is a woman who rolls her eyes and does everything right. We don't see it the other way around anymore, and that's very good. But we should not see it either way imho. I try to look for an example.



Edit: Can't find anything at the moment, so consider it just my uninformed opinion :-)

In reply to this comment by hpqp:
No worries, assumed you did (btw, I was typing at the same time as you, so didn't see your comment until after posting mine : )

edit: the only reason why i didn't upvote your comment is because i don't agree about the "acceptance of misandry" bit. If i'm not mistaken this shining example received its fair share of criticism for being the spiteful crap that it is.

In reply to this comment by DerHasisttot:
Thanks. Him equating the hags with feminists completely fell under my radar. :-)

Edit: To clarify: I agree with all you said.

In reply to this comment by hpqp:
Those cackling hags are NOT feminists, they're stupid dicks. That being said, this loudmouth needs to get some perspective and not decide what feminism is based on a few singular situations.

For every story of a woman being treated preferentially (NOT what feminism is about btw), there are a million and one cases of misogynous abuse, lack of equal rights, rape perps and wife-killers walking free, "honour" killings, etc etc etc.

Most feminists will be the first to call out the hateful ignorance of situations like the one above, because it goes completely against what feminism is about, i.e. equal treatment. The way I see it, those dimwits (and anyone else who found this story funny instead of tragic) had something of an "Osama's death" moment, rejoicing over something unethical out of a sense of revenge for past (and present) misdeeds. Instead of using this situation to talk about the other side of what equality means - i.e. that women can be criminal/crazy/violent too - they took the low road of laughing at someone's mutilation. Shame on them, not on feminism.




hpqp says...

No worries, assumed you did (btw, I was typing at the same time as you, so didn't see your comment until after posting mine )

edit: the only reason why i didn't upvote your comment is because i don't agree about the "acceptance of misandry" bit. If i'm not mistaken this shining example received its fair share of criticism for being the spiteful crap that it is.

In reply to this comment by DerHasisttot:
Thanks. Him equating the hags with feminists completely fell under my radar. :-)

Edit: To clarify: I agree with all you said.

In reply to this comment by hpqp:
Those cackling hags are NOT feminists, they're stupid dicks. That being said, this loudmouth needs to get some perspective and not decide what feminism is based on a few singular situations.

For every story of a woman being treated preferentially (NOT what feminism is about btw), there are a million and one cases of misogynous abuse, lack of equal rights, rape perps and wife-killers walking free, "honour" killings, etc etc etc.

Most feminists will be the first to call out the hateful ignorance of situations like the one above, because it goes completely against what feminism is about, i.e. equal treatment. The way I see it, those dimwits (and anyone else who found this story funny instead of tragic) had something of an "Osama's death" moment, rejoicing over something unethical out of a sense of revenge for past (and present) misdeeds. Instead of using this situation to talk about the other side of what equality means - i.e. that women can be criminal/crazy/violent too - they took the low road of laughing at someone's mutilation. Shame on them, not on feminism.


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oritteropo says...

Re making it more Swedish, kymbos made a relevant comment with a link to an article comparing the welfare systems of various countries, which will probably interest you, as might this BBC article asking why the U.S. has a lower life expectancy than Britain - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14070090

As for our constitutional monarchy... it's quite cost effective, and generally works quite well. I think we'd be mad to change it, particularly since the last proposed change was to let our current politicians choose one of their mates to be "President".... right... what a great idea... NOT. I think people realised it was just going to be a huge waste of money, and risked wrecking a perfectly good (if unfashionable) system.

Someone suggested, apparently seriously, that if the U.K. becomes a republic we should import the royal family!
In reply to this comment by DerHasisttot:
Yes, quite possible. I'd love to make it more sweden-y, but i don't know enough. And what I was missing were options to increase spending for education, for example.

What's your opinion about Australia's remnants of monarchy?

oritteropo says...

This must be the first time that one has been blocked for me but not for you

Well I only have to look to the U.S. to see how lucky we are here! I could quibble with one or two things, but they're little things like people tinkering with their own consoles being treated as criminals... not big things like the country being on the verge of bankruptcy

Your choices on the quiz appear to be aimed at making each choice to be as close to your own country's policy as possible, right? I think I have probably done the same.
In reply to this comment by DerHasisttot:
Thanks! For me, it's not blocked. I've thrown my two cents in the discussion :-)


How are politics in Australia at the moment? Anything you'd like to see changed?

oritteropo says...

The comments on this video are interesting - http://videosift.com/video/TDS-Dancing-on-the-Ceiling

The vid itself is probably as blocked for you as it is for me... but the nyt "how would you fix the debt problem" survey answers seem right up your alley. If you are able to draw any conclusions about the differences between responses from the U.S. reds vs blues and between the U.S. and the rest of the world, I'd love to hear them.

I do, of course, realise that sifters are hardly a representative sample of their respective countries.

Some of Netrunner's other recent postings will probably also interest you, on the same basis.

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