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legacy0100says...And the allies did the same to German scientists and engineers. As did Napoleon to Egypt, as did British Empire to India.
I find the logic behind this documentary deeming Germans as 'the worst thieves of all' rather ironic and flawed... It's even laughable almost.
kir_mokumsays...i think their point as to why the nazi's were exceptional in looting was in extent. they mention napoleon in the beginning and say that the nazi's took it to an industrial level.
legacy0100says...I may have to contest with that argument. Germans were the first modern nation to fully conquer and plunder its fellow imperial European power. But they weren't the first to be plundering in any exceptional level. I mean what qualifies as exceptional, really, when plundering basically means killing everyone and taking whatever you want? India and Egypt were considered non-white non-European nations, therefore safe to be exploited without much guilt. China and India were exploited to an industrial level too, but the Brits were focused on land ownership more than the artworks at the time. The artworks they just took from China without documenting anything because it was the 'conquer's right' to take from these uncultured savages without having to ask for it or give proper document. But France and Britain were of 'equal-stature' amongst European powers. They were 'SPECIAL'.
And there's also the definition of 'industrial'. Germans were highly organized and documented everything they did, which gives the impression that they were absolutely thorough and milked their subjects dry. But other European powers did the same exact shit to their conquered people, except they never provided evidence of their plunders simply because they were dealing with non-Europeans, hence they did not have to treat them fairly and take whatever they wanted without signing anything. They all did the same thing. There is no difference when it comes to looting.
The reason why there's such huge backlash against Nazi Germany is not only because of the holocaust, but because Germans were the first to break the invisible rule between the European imperial powers, in that they were n't suppose to treat each other like they did with 'foreign non-equals'. Nazis took European racism to another level and self-proclaimed themselves to be the 'best-white-people-of-all' and started treating their neighbors as inferiors. Nazis were 'exceptional' in the way that they were the first to break the unspoken rule between 'European superiors' by fully subjugating France. Germany fully CONQUERED France like they did with their colonies, and that was the main difference.
That's when all of Europe knew for sure that "okay, these guys aren't playing by the rules anymore." So I cannot accept the argument saying Germans were the first to loot in an industrial level, but rather the first to do it to a fellow traditionally 'superior' European people. Britain and France didn't do shit about the holocaust before the war. They sat and watched. It was when Germany treated France like a inferior colony nation that got Britain and France pissed off the most.
radxsays...The first thing that came to mind when I read the title was "Monte Cassino". Conditioned reflex, perhaps. What a relief it was, to see it mentioned right at the beginning (1:36-1:41) of this documentary.
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siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Saturday, April 21st, 2012 1:09pm PDT - promote requested by chingalera.
Lannsays...I sifted "Rape of Europa" not "Rape of Europe".
Feel free to sift the replacement separately. Just thought I should point out this sift (the original) was dealing with art theft during World War 2 not whatever the replacement is (way too tired to watch right now)
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lurgeesays...It's alive! Part 2 here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdlNM9Yj5iY
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